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  • furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2020
    Juggernut wrote: »
    The Greenville city mayor just ordered all restaurants and bars to close seating and operate on pick up or to-go business only so that's good I guess.

    I mean it's not. Nothing about any of this is good. But it's the right call.

    @Juggernut So far all BMW has done is put a sign on the door saying call your section leader of you meet the testing criteria. No word on if you will receive attendence penalty points, if you will be paid, if the plant has any fucking plan at all. We build cars for rich assholes not fucking insulin, we can afford to make them wait a bit.

    12k people working in close quarters sharing tools for 10 hours at a time and fucking silence from management. It is very angering.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Also, Quid's in NOVA, so there's probably quite a few in the neighborhood that don't eat pork. so Chorizo is right out.

    Your landlord is an ass, ZP. I'm sorry about that.

    Yeah, i'm going to talk to my flatmates and suggest some push back on this - it has been a couple of years since a rent raise, but right during corona virus seems... Wrong.

    Might need to go scratch up on tennacy laws.

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  • ahavaahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    The random thing I’m curious about today: how will these restrictions impact art? Not just “what shows and movies will be delayed” or “what authors will become spectacularly productive.” How will isolation impact what kinds of movies and TV people want to watch? How many years will it be until we see a romantic drama or a comedy about people forced into isolation together? Or for that matter, a crime movie or miniseries or novel about police tracking down a killer who is preying on people who are self isolating?

    We the Great Isolation (or whatever we’ll call it) be something we talk about and want to watch stories about or something we avoid talking about and something we avoid watching? Will we see people testing the waters first with dramas set in 1919 and 1349 and 1854?

    I'd imagine it really depends on how it all ends as to how soon we get things like this.

    The whole thing is fascinating from a sociology/anthropology stand point, so I'm sure there will be quite a few theses written about this time. But as far as public art? I'd say probably at minimum 5 years if we come out ok on the 'other side', closer to 10 if not.

  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    syndalis wrote: »
    I am not asking for the sake of starting a political chat.

    I am asking if the four states with primaries today decided to do them anyways. Last I heard it was going to happen, and that infuriated me.

    It’s largely irresponsible state governments, but in at least one case it was a legal question. The long delay and last minute announcement in Ohio was because they had to wait for a Supreme Court ruling.
    Early Tuesday, the Ohio Supreme Court denied a legal challenge to the state delaying the primary. A candidate in Wood County filed the action alleging the delay of the primary violated election laws.

    Only four justices participated in the ruling, which was issued without an opinion.

    The ruling capped a chaotic 12 hours in which it appeared the election was off, back on, and then off again.

    https://www.dispatch.com/news/20200316/coronavirus-ohio-supreme-court-allows-delay-to-primary-election

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  • LegacyLegacy Stuck Somewhere In Cyberspace The Grid(Seattle)Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    The random thing I’m curious about today: how will these restrictions impact art? Not just “what shows and movies will be delayed” or “what authors will become spectacularly productive.” How will isolation impact what kinds of movies and TV people want to watch? How many years will it be until we see a romantic drama or a comedy about people forced into isolation together? Or for that matter, a crime movie or miniseries or novel about police tracking down a killer who is preying on people who are self isolating?

    We the Great Isolation (or whatever we’ll call it) be something we talk about and want to watch stories about or something we avoid talking about and something we avoid watching? Will we see people testing the waters first with dramas set in 1919 and 1349 and 1854?

    I'd imagine it really depends on how it all ends as to how soon we get things like this.

    The whole thing is fascinating from a sociology/anthropology stand point, so I'm sure there will be quite a few theses written about this time. But as far as public art? I'd say probably at minimum 5 years if we come out ok on the 'other side', closer to 10 if not.

    You just know the Sharknado folks are going to start work on Coronacane/Flucano the second they're all cleared to go back to production work...

    Can we get the chemicals in. 'Cause anything's better than this.
  • NumiNumi Registered User regular
    Spent the day bringing stuff online after it was announced high schools and above will be shuttered for the next couple of weeks in response to the outbreak. This is going to be an epic dumpster fire but at least I'll be working from home as of the 18th.

  • PulpDoggPulpDogg Formerly TheBigEasy Registered User regular
    This whole thing is so utterly surreal to me. The only other incident that changed life and public life like that in my lifetime was the fall of the Berlin wall. I was 11 when that happened and even then I found it weird - until I saw a West Berlin supermarket for the first time. But that is another story.

    These constant updates about how many cases are here or there and celebrities getting corona virus (Idris Elba or now apparently 4 Brooklyn Nets players have been diagnosed, Kevin Durant among them, a well-known German politician). My company send out an email that one of our people was tested positive - completely different department than me, different floor and all that. But all these news read like somebody is giving out a death sentence or has to report a death. Telling us they are putting the floor this guy worked on through a 'deep cleaning' has me imagining a cleaning crew in hazmat suits going through the floor.

    Utterly surreal.

    The worst part is - nobody really knows how long this will go. Do we go back to normal in April? Or does it take through the summer or even longer? What will that do to public life and the economy (besides utterly wrecking it)? I work in advertising - a few clients are already scaling back budgets or stopping campaigns altogether. How long until my company has to lay people off?

    I am not worried about myself for my health or my job, really. All signs point to not much trouble for me, if I do get it. I live alone and my dad lives on the other side of the country. Right now I am not worried about my job either.

    But still, one wonders.

    Sorry for the sort of rambly post, but I have alot going through my mind these days.

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Shadowhope wrote: »
    The random thing I’m curious about today: how will these restrictions impact art? Not just “what shows and movies will be delayed” or “what authors will become spectacularly productive.” How will isolation impact what kinds of movies and TV people want to watch? How many years will it be until we see a romantic drama or a comedy about people forced into isolation together? Or for that matter, a crime movie or miniseries or novel about police tracking down a killer who is preying on people who are self isolating?

    We the Great Isolation (or whatever we’ll call it) be something we talk about and want to watch stories about or something we avoid talking about and something we avoid watching? Will we see people testing the waters first with dramas set in 1919 and 1349 and 1854?

    I'd imagine it really depends on how it all ends as to how soon we get things like this.

    The whole thing is fascinating from a sociology/anthropology stand point, so I'm sure there will be quite a few theses written about this time. But as far as public art? I'd say probably at minimum 5 years if we come out ok on the 'other side', closer to 10 if not.

    This was a really dramatic way to announce the end of the Golden Age of TV, universe

    but also, Jafar Panahi, Iranian filmmaker, was under house arrest for a long time, and made a movie shot on his iPhone that was smuggled out of the country on a flash drive in a birthday cake called This is Not a Film, and it is excellent. People will get creative about their isolation

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  • Toxic ToysToxic Toys Are you really taking my advice? Really?Registered User regular
    So here in Phoenix AZ we haven't been hit that badly, yet. 20 confirmed cases in the whole state. But my wife works getting homeless people back on their feet. She's been hearing that the shelters are not taking new people in any longer because of some of the homeless community had to be hospitalized due to the Coronavirus. She does back end office work so not in direct contact and is like third hand info. It freak me out as that's a large community that we have no real way of tracking.

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  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    edited March 2020
    TheBigEasy wrote: »
    This whole thing is so utterly surreal to me. The only other incident that changed life and public life like that in my lifetime was the fall of the Berlin wall. I was 11 when that happened and even then I found it weird - until I saw a West Berlin supermarket for the first time. But that is another story.

    These constant updates about how many cases are here or there and celebrities getting corona virus (Idris Elba or now apparently 4 Brooklyn Nets players have been diagnosed, Kevin Durant among them, a well-known German politician). My company send out an email that one of our people was tested positive - completely different department than me, different floor and all that. But all these news read like somebody is giving out a death sentence or has to report a death. Telling us they are putting the floor this guy worked on through a 'deep cleaning' has me imagining a cleaning crew in hazmat suits going through the floor.

    Utterly surreal.

    The worst part is - nobody really knows how long this will go. Do we go back to normal in April? Or does it take through the summer or even longer? What will that do to public life and the economy (besides utterly wrecking it)? I work in advertising - a few clients are already scaling back budgets or stopping campaigns altogether. How long until my company has to lay people off?

    I am not worried about myself for my health or my job, really. All signs point to not much trouble for me, if I do get it. I live alone and my dad lives on the other side of the country. Right now I am not worried about my job either.

    But still, one wonders.

    Sorry for the sort of rambly post, but I have alot going through my mind these days.

    This will go on for as long as access to tests is restricted, or until a vaccine is developed and widely distributed. In the near term, broad, free, and aggressive testing gives everyone the data to coordinate their lives. Since we do not have that, we have fear and uncertainty, and will need to continue to resort to desperate measures.

    The countries that are coming out of this and ramping productivity back up? China and South Korea. Guess what they're doing that other countries are not?

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  • AbacusAbacus Registered User regular
    Well, I guess that this is the thread for "shitty things that companies are doing on the outbreak".

    We have:
    • LATAM Airlines cancelling all flights right before the frontier closure to sell them at 6 times the price. Seriously, fuck them.
    • A company firing their part-time employees while also making them sign a resignation letter. People got pissed on social media, they walked it back.
    • A beer plant making people go to work to make beer because "is food".
    • A company taking the quarantine days from the vacations, making people sign documents saying that. Had to walk it back too.
    • A call center making people work in an open office without masks and with people with coughs. Police sent people home, except the managers. They went to the police station.
    • A call center making people attend calls from another country.
    • Another call center (notice a theme?) that shortened the 2 week quarantine to a single week and, you guessed it, also took it from the vacations!

    Call centers suck. On positive news, there's restaurant chains pretty much closing entirely and giving the food to their employees, while saying that they would pay their wages and benefits from their pocket.

  • thatassemblyguythatassemblyguy Janitor of Technical Debt .Registered User regular
    edited March 2020
    Toxic Toys wrote: »
    So here in Phoenix AZ we haven't been hit that badly, yet. 20 confirmed cases in the whole state. But my wife works getting homeless people back on their feet. She's been hearing that the shelters are not taking new people in any longer because of some of the homeless community had to be hospitalized due to the Coronavirus. She does back end office work so not in direct contact and is like third hand info. It freak me out as that's a large community that we have no real way of tracking.

    Testing in Arizona is the same as testing in other states - no tests are being performed unless you're in the hospital in a bad way. Ducey (edit, auto-correct got me) is putting on a minor song and dance with the Banner/Mayo Clinic stuff. None of those tests will be affordable for individuals to test, and the Banner director already came out and said they won't be testing if you have no symptoms, or minor cough/fever symptoms - which basically means community spread will continue to occur because Arizona is filled (not entirely) with dumbass rednecks that can't tell a hole in the ground from their own assholes and will continue to be like, "Oh it's just allergies, lets go to The Van Buren tonight".

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  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Toxic Toys wrote: »
    So here in Phoenix AZ we haven't been hit that badly, yet. 20 confirmed cases in the whole state. But my wife works getting homeless people back on their feet. She's been hearing that the shelters are not taking new people in any longer because of some of the homeless community had to be hospitalized due to the Coronavirus. She does back end office work so not in direct contact and is like third hand info. It freak me out as that's a large community that we have no real way of tracking.

    Testing in Arizona is the same as testing in other states - no tests are being performed unless you're in the hospital in a bad way. Douchey is putting on a minor song and dance with the Banner/Mayo Clinic stuff. None of those tests will be affordable for individuals to test, and the Banner director already came out and said they won't be testing if you have no symptoms, or minor cough/fever symptoms - which basically means community spread will continue to occur because Arizona is filled (not entirely) with dumbass rednecks that can't tell a hole in the ground from their own assholes and will continue to be like, "Oh it's just allergies, lets go to The Van Buren tonight".

    Wait until it hits the old folks communities. The ones that won't stop golfing for any reason but rain. Its why I pushed Beast to make sure his retired parents outside Phoenix stopped socializing immediately.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    I've been thankful my parents are taking this....honestly at pretty much the exact right level of seriousness. My mother's back is injured, so they're not going out much anyway, my Dad has cancelled his caving/camping activites. They're decently well supplied and live way out in the boonies so there's not a whole lot of exposure to others - I think they're planning on continuing to go hiking (as my mother's back permits), but with everyone spaced out and no one car pooling, which...if you're going to do outdoor activities, that's about as good as you can hope.

    The most frustrating thing is that my Dad's convinced this is the thing that Trump can't bounce back from, and I feel like I've been down that road so many times I can't even bring myself to think that.

  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited March 2020
    Man, I don't know if anyone else has been watching the daily infection/recovered graph on the Johns Hopkins map, but the last 5 days the "other" slope is going asymptotic, infections are spiking big time.

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  • BigPointyTeethBigPointyTeeth run away! run away! MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    Okay, I guess the hospital I work at is delaying elective surgeries, procedures, and office visits.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited March 2020
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Well, I guess that this is the thread for "shitty things that companies are doing on the outbreak".

    We have:
    • LATAM Airlines cancelling all flights right before the frontier closure to sell them at 6 times the price. Seriously, fuck them.
    • A company firing their part-time employees while also making them sign a resignation letter. People got pissed on social media, they walked it back.
    • A beer plant making people go to work to make beer because "is food".
    • A company taking the quarantine days from the vacations, making people sign documents saying that. Had to walk it back too.
    • A call center making people work in an open office without masks and with people with coughs. Police sent people home, except the managers. They went to the police station.
    • A call center making people attend calls from another country.
    • Another call center (notice a theme?) that shortened the 2 week quarantine to a single week and, you guessed it, also took it from the vacations!

    Call centers suck. On positive news, there's restaurant chains pretty much closing entirely and giving the food to their employees, while saying that they would pay their wages and benefits from their pocket.

    Worked many years in a call center, can confirm they are the worst.

    God, I'm so, so blessed to have moved to cloud computing SRE a couple of years ago. I would have it so much worse if I was working a telecom call center, still. They would pull all these tricks and more.

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  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Anyone have the latest consensus (if there is one) on whether warmer temperatures actually inhibit spread? Seeing some hopeful wishes, would prefer some harder data either way (again, if it exists yet).

    There's current community spread (and rapid case growth) in Malaysia, Qatar, Brazil, the Philippines, Indonesia...

    The inhibition effect is minor and we cannot depend on it. It hasn't stopped SARS2 anywhere yet despite hot and tropical conditions in many countries.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited March 2020
    So, neighborhood teen who mows my lawn was unable to mow it on Saturday because of the rain. I told him it would take a few days to dry out and I'd let him know when to come back. He sends me a text today asking if he can mow the lawn today; I say no, it's still too wet. Then he asks if I can loan him the money I would normally pay for mowing, then next time I mow it's for free.

    First instinct is an outright no, but since the covid-19 virus is an issue for a lot of people I worry that maybe his family needs the money for food or something. So I ask him what he needs it for. Turns out he wants to go to the movies tonight with his friends. Oof. I tell him I don't lend money.

    Edit: this post is maybe not virus-enough related, except how it shows young people are still dumb about viruses, but this kind of problem would be helped if our governor here in Texas would put some measures into place, like closing movie theaters, maybe? Luckily Dallas county and the neighboring, and more conservative, Tarrant county have both closed schools, but not so for most of Texas.

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  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    I went to one grocery store at 8 this morning. It was so cleared out already, I was lucky to get bread.

    I went to a second grocery store and stood in line until it opened at 9. Someone came out ahead of time to let us know that they hadn't finished unloading everything; they only had time to restock the essentials which they had completely run out of already (eggs, water, toilet paper, and paper towels), everything else they are unloading tonight after the store closed at 7. The aforementioned essential items were limited to one per customer.

    I got pretty much everything I needed, but it was pretty wild seeing something like grocery stores pushed to the brink across the board.

  • JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    edited March 2020
    furlion wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    The Greenville city mayor just ordered all restaurants and bars to close seating and operate on pick up or to-go business only so that's good I guess.

    I mean it's not. Nothing about any of this is good. But it's the right call.

    Juggernut So far all BMW has done is put a sign on the door saying call your section leader of you meet the testing criteria. No word on if you will receive attendence penalty points, if you will be paid, if the plant has any fucking plan at all. We build cars for rich assholes not fucking insulin, we can afford to make them wait a bit.

    12k people working in close quarters sharing tools for 10 hours at a time and fucking silence from management. It is very angering.

    Yeah more or less same here. We're on a self screening plan so if you think you have any symptoms they don't want you to come in at all. What happens in that case I dunno.

    They instituted a lot of small changes and cancelled basically any elective meetings or classes and phased out our morning briefings but all of the WFH and office rearranging only helps day shift staff. Production gotta product.

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  • tricontricon Registered User regular
    furlion wrote: »

    @Juggernut So far all BMW has done is put a sign on the door saying call your section leader of you meet the testing criteria. No word on if you will receive attendence penalty points, if you will be paid, if the plant has any fucking plan at all. We build cars for rich assholes not fucking insulin, we can afford to make them wait a bit.

    12k people working in close quarters sharing tools for 10 hours at a time and fucking silence from management. It is very angering.

    No surprise with BMW the do the same BS in Germany and the are a exception here. Fiat, Peugeot Citroën (Opel), Daimler and now VW shutdown the
    factories for at least 2 weeks. In case of VW our union needed to step the CEO on the feet to stop the production. Now the close down Friday with the same
    arguments you can't keep a save distance on the line. Our gov will pay a short-time compensation for the next weeks.

  • HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    I've been thankful my parents are taking this....honestly at pretty much the exact right level of seriousness. My mother's back is injured, so they're not going out much anyway, my Dad has cancelled his caving/camping activites. They're decently well supplied and live way out in the boonies so there's not a whole lot of exposure to others - I think they're planning on continuing to go hiking (as my mother's back permits), but with everyone spaced out and no one car pooling, which...if you're going to do outdoor activities, that's about as good as you can hope.

    The most frustrating thing is that my Dad's convinced this is the thing that Trump can't bounce back from, and I feel like I've been down that road so many times I can't even bring myself to think that.

    My BF's sister in law is a nurse in a relatively rural, red area of WA that isn't the epicenter of the outbreak, but close to it, and she's terrified and furious---running out of protective gear already and no serious plans to protect healthcare workers from the disease. The healthcare system is going to break in half unless the govt spins up supply chains & surges medical supply manufacturing & distribution yesterday, and it is too busy tickling its balls right now to mobilize for war.

    When the healthcare workers start to get sick en masse, I think people will get very scared and angry very fast.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    So, neighborhood teen who mow's my lawn was unable to mow it on Saturday because of the rain. I told him it would take a few days to dry out and I'd let him know when to come back. He sends me a text today asking if he can mow the lawn today; I say no, it's still too wet. Then he asks if I can loan him the money I would normally pay for mowing, then next time I mow it's for free.

    First instinct is an outright no, but since the covid-19 virus is an issue for a lot of people I worry that maybe his family needs the money for food or something. So I ask him what he needs it for. Turns out he wants to go to the movies tonight with his friends. Oof. I tell him I don't lend money.

    Edit: this post is maybe not virus-enough related, except how it shows young people are still dumb about viruses, but this kind of problem would be helped if our governor here in Texas would put some measures into place, like closing movie theaters, maybe? Luckily Dallas county and the neighboring, and more conservative, Tarrant county have both closed schools, but not so for most of Texas.

    I wish more people had your instincts.

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    A small bit of hopefulness is that Beijing seems to be slowly, slowly restarting.
    No known cases. Reading a report from a Dutch reporter who was quarantined for 2 weeks and let out today.

    However their actions were more drastic and China was able to contain to a single province and contact trace out of it, things that are lost to the West.

    They are also tracking movement at checkpoints, you cannot go into a neighborhood that is not your home work or local commercial.

    A few restaurants are open but only 2 people can eat on a table, then a 6ft gap.

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    So, neighborhood teen who mow's my lawn was unable to mow it on Saturday because of the rain. I told him it would take a few days to dry out and I'd let him know when to come back. He sends me a text today asking if he can mow the lawn today; I say no, it's still too wet. Then he asks if I can loan him the money I would normally pay for mowing, then next time I mow it's for free.

    First instinct is an outright no, but since the covid-19 virus is an issue for a lot of people I worry that maybe his family needs the money for food or something. So I ask him what he needs it for. Turns out he wants to go to the movies tonight with his friends. Oof. I tell him I don't lend money.

    Edit: this post is maybe not virus-enough related, except how it shows young people are still dumb about viruses, but this kind of problem would be helped if our governor here in Texas would put some measures into place, like closing movie theaters, maybe? Luckily Dallas county and the neighboring, and more conservative, Tarrant county have both closed schools, but not so for most of Texas.

    There's an article floating around that puts Texas at the bottom for responding to this. Last in per capital testing and with a healthcare system towards the bottom of the US.

    Abbott's not really doing much, and rural Texas is solid Trumpland who doesn't think it is a problem.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Anyone have the latest consensus (if there is one) on whether warmer temperatures actually inhibit spread? Seeing some hopeful wishes, would prefer some harder data either way (again, if it exists yet).

    There's current community spread (and rapid case growth) in Malaysia, Qatar, Brazil, the Philippines, Indonesia...

    The inhibition effect is minor and we cannot depend on it. It hasn't stopped SARS2 anywhere yet despite hot and tropical conditions in many countries.

    That's what I was afraid of. But thank you.

  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    And Florida continues to do.... nothing.

    We're supposed to go breathe all over retired poll workers today.

    That sure is something.

    Looking like the same goddamn thing as everything else with Millennials worrying about the pandemic and not showing up and Boomers going fuck it. Been the case in my local activism chats, at the polls, and now with the results coming in with Biden winning by even higher margins than predicted. This sucks shit and idk why the Boomers have to take us with them with their suicidal impulses in practically every facet of society.

    Disinfectant supplies at the polls were present but not in use. Grocery store was filled with old folks not taking any precautions; several of them made fun of me for my gloves and a respirator. This is gonna be real bad in a week or two.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
    I dunno I’m seeing plenty of dumbfuck young folks out and about

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  • Inkstain82Inkstain82 Registered User regular
    It's still possible that weather will have *some* dampening effect on the virus' spread. And every little bit counts. Or it might not. We just don't have data to know, beyond "well it sure looks like hot places can still get it."

    There's still just so, so much we don't know right now.

  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    I dunno I’m seeing plenty of dumbfuck young folks out and about

    Yeah, but they're going around being dumbfucks, not being civilly responsible. (If they were, they'd stay home.)

  • Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    I dunno I’m seeing plenty of dumbfuck young folks out and about

    I feel like the venn diagram of the dumbfuck young folks that are out and the young people that are politically engaged and showing up to vote in primaries are nearly two separate circles.

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Ugh, friend is trying to organize a small get together with our friends "before we're unable to."

    She's trying to be smart, by saying we should maybe hang outdoors and keep distance from one another but then she also suggest a movie or game night.

    She desperately needs social interaction so I don't want to be harsh on her but it's such a bad idea to me.

  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Ugh, friend is trying to organize a small get together with our friends "before we're unable to."

    She's trying to be smart, by saying we should maybe hang outdoors and keep distance from one another but then she also suggest a movie or game night.

    She desperately needs social interaction so I don't want to be harsh on her but it's such a bad idea to me.

    You could do one of those Kast things where you all watch a movie together on an open voice line. Or suggest a 1x1 thing. I think you're totally reasonable to be concerned.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Ugh, friend is trying to organize a small get together with our friends "before we're unable to."

    She's trying to be smart, by saying we should maybe hang outdoors and keep distance from one another but then she also suggest a movie or game night.

    She desperately needs social interaction so I don't want to be harsh on her but it's such a bad idea to me.

    Japan has adopted a practice of using video conferences to drink with your friends. Maybe make your last get together a run to Best Buy to get everybody webcams and agree on an app.

  • DouglasDouglas PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    SanderJK wrote: »
    A small bit of hopefulness is that Beijing seems to be slowly, slowly restarting.
    No known cases. Reading a report from a Dutch reporter who was quarantined for 2 weeks and let out today.

    However their actions were more drastic and China was able to contain to a single province and contact trace out of it, things that are lost to the West.

    They are also tracking movement at checkpoints, you cannot go into a neighborhood that is not your home work or local commercial.

    A few restaurants are open but only 2 people can eat on a table, then a 6ft gap.

    Are you inside China?

    Because the last thing I heard was Beijing throwing out all foreign reporters

  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    No, Bejing is throwing all US reporters.

    Here is the story
    https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/toiletpapier-hamsteren-heb-ik-nog-nooit-gezien-in-china~bb18e3ac

    In Dutch, soft paywall

    She had visited Wuhan at the start of the crisis, got quarantined for 14 days, was allowed out of Wuhan, then got quarantined for another 14d. She got released this morning.

    Nothing in the story suggests she is leaving.

    Steam: SanderJK Origin: SanderJK
  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    And Florida continues to do.... nothing.

    We're supposed to go breathe all over retired poll workers today.

    That sure is something.

    Looking like the same goddamn thing as everything else with Millennials worrying about the pandemic and not showing up and Boomers going fuck it. Been the case in my local activism chats, at the polls, and now with the results coming in with Biden winning by even higher margins than predicted. This sucks shit and idk why the Boomers have to take us with them with their suicidal impulses in practically every facet of society.

    Disinfectant supplies at the polls were present but not in use. Grocery store was filled with old folks not taking any precautions; several of them made fun of me for my gloves and a respirator. This is gonna be real bad in a week or two.

    I'm not sure we can make that kind of guess at how people are reacting given that's been the behaviour in the primary since long before Coronavirus became a thing.

    But the primaries themselves need to stop or go vote-by-mail. The DNC at least is pushing for vote-by-mail thank god. Hopefully the states follow. Anything else at this point is irresponsible. Especially when at least the presidential one is already over and there's no point in continuing to endanger people for the basically pointless exercise.

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