[Unicorn Overlord] Vanillaware Tactics and Spherical Continuity

Elendil · September 25

i saw a screenshot of somebody's tactics screen and realized that you can add multiple layers of tactics to make it a whole branching set of decisions... i'd thought it was just basic prioritization and a few conditions you could apply

i spent FOUR HOURS fine tuning equipment and tactics setups abd throwing my units at each other in mock battles to test changes. i made zero progress in the game

10/10

Frozenzen · September 25

The tactics system is deceptively complex. It looks pretty simple at first glance, but once you get access to more actions it gets silly.

I'd love another game in the same engine, but with more varied mission objectives.

Elendil · October 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEsIqbvElBk

i have recruited the large woman

Polaritie · October 1

I loved figuring out how to break open some of those fights. If memory serves, you can win that one with like, a lone rogue since "didn't take any damage" counts as winning as long as you dealt any damage at all.

Elendil · October 1

Polaritie wrote: »

I loved figuring out how to break open some of those fights. If memory serves, you can win that one with like, a lone rogue since "didn't take any damage" counts as winning as long as you dealt any damage at all.

can the super move she does actually be evaded? doesn't it have true strike?

ArcTangent · October 1

Her Truestrike comes from a passive ability which she won't have the PP for if you suck it up with their PP steal. Anybody with Parry also solos her pretty easily since True Strike doesn't go through that.

Elendil · October 1

oh i see

that was my first run with the thief so i wasn't sure if the PP steal ability actually helped there

i'd tried a bunch of stuff for the middle guy and that was the one that happened to work

TelMarine · October 2

I recall brute forcing it by winning on damage. I put the Blizzard staff or whatever on Yahna and let that carry me to victory.

furlion · October 2

The actual fight against her was much easier than some of the fights leading up to her if i remember correctly. Sadly she is not really a great character as she requires a specific setup to work best instead of being able to just slot into an existing team

Etiowsa · October 2

Yeah giant woman was very disappointing once I got my hands on her. The bonuses the evil version got threw me off.

Andy Joe · October 2

I put her on my main unit with Alain, and from then on it was able to streamroll almost every enemy for the rest of the game.

Elendil · October 3

my squads are getting absolutely fucked by these furries

Dragkonias · October 3

Yeah one of my complaints about UO was that I wish you just had more unit slots.

I had a pretty solid lineup that got me through the entire game by the third country but I would have enjoyed the ability to mess around with more gimmicky comps.

Frozenzen · October 4

Elendil wrote: »

my squads are getting absolutely fucked by these furries

Try some different setups then!

At that point the game you should have enough gear to try a whole bunch of things.

Polaritie · October 4

Frozenzen wrote: »

Elendil wrote: »

my squads are getting absolutely fucked by these furries

Try some different setups then!

At that point the game you should have enough gear to try a whole bunch of things.

Yeah, pretty much just comes down to reading what their passives do and deploying people with counters to it. Shamans can be set up to shut down almost anything.

Also, cavalry stacks. You're fighting almost exclusively infantry, so a row of knights will mow through them with stacking Cavalier Calls and line attacks. (They can have issues with the foxes at night, but nothing a witch can't fix)

Elendil · October 4

i was surprised because even my anti-flier archer squad was doing pretty badly

where'd all my true strike go

maybe i gotta use these dozen swordsman guys i haven't touched

Frozenzen · October 5

I remember the furries had a whole bunch of interesting gimmick passives that you need to deal with.

But If you haven't tried it yet so try a cavalry squad, it is very silly.

Dragkonias · October 5

Furries can be a cake walk if you just use the item that turns night to day.

Darkewolfe · October 5

Frozenzen wrote: »

The tactics system is deceptively complex. It looks pretty simple at first glance, but once you get access to more actions it gets silly.

I'd love another game in the same engine, but with more varied mission objectives.

It's way more complex than the game really calls for, which is one of the weak points.

Elendil · October 7

hidden fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoa-jQeFq4M

jesus christ, i didn't even counterbuild for it

they just Do That

Polaritie · October 7

Yeah, the hammer units have a job and they do it very well.

Elendil · October 12

alright almost done. just need to clear the true ending map for the plat. 100+ hours, probably dozens spent tinkering with unit formations, loadouts and tactics

if i had less going on right now, i think i'd replay it again right away on a higher difficulty. i regret not bumping it up at some point

favorite units were the hammer sisters above, and then my all-archer and mostly bestral squads.

the archer squad was kind of a dark horse that popped off once i recruited the featherbow. ended up being surprisingly consistent. raenys and liza up front evade tanking (i gave her the evade greatshield). rolf and mandrin (with heal pursuit bow) spamming row shots and pursuits. galadmir in the back dropping a debuff protection at start, doing additional CC with icicle shot, buffing with conferral, and clearing debuffs and proccing selfless heal off liza.

bestrals were just yunifi and dinah evade tanking + countering/pursuits with govnil using the item that buffs bestrals at start. morard adding some damage and a cleric thrown in for some survability. not a really great unit, but a fun one to watch when they had a good matchup.

i gave the ring to ridiel

EspantaPajaro · October 12

If Amazon could hurry the fuck up and ship my copy that would be swell. I finally ordered it after seeing it was 40 bucks on sale .

EspantaPajaro · October 19

Finishing up elfland atm , game is good ! Systems are fun , art is gorgeous and everything is fun . I don’t think I should have played normal cause it’s way too easy but apparently there is an unlockable difficulty. That said ogre battle 64 was also extremely easy so it’s not really a mark against it . I’m having a blast .

Random observations

The food jiggling when it’s put on your table makes me happy . No idea why
I have fixed so many towns I don’t have anyone to guard them , will put mercenaries on the job if it turns out I need to
time limit has not been an issue at all so far , never mattered in OB64 either .
I really wish there were monster units , I know of the beast people but I just enjoyed making monster units . Feels wrong not to have a necromancer and vampire backline protected by regenerating undead .

silence1186 · October 19

EspantaPajaro wrote: »

Finishing up elfland atm , game is good ! Systems are fun , art is gorgeous and everything is fun . I don’t think I should have played normal cause it’s way too easy but apparently there is an unlockable difficulty. That said ogre battle 64 was also extremely easy so it’s not really a mark against it . I’m having a blast .

Random observations
The food jiggling when it’s put on your table makes me happy . No idea why

I have fixed so many towns I don’t have anyone to guard them , will put mercenaries on the job if it turns out I need to

time limit has not been an issue at all so far , never mattered in OB64 either .

I really wish there were monster units , I know of the beast people but I just enjoyed making monster units . Feels wrong not to have a necromancer and vampire backline protected by regenerating undead .

You will need to hire ~50-60 mercenaries to guard all the towns, depending on how many unique units you find.

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