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[Magic The Gathering Arena] Kamigawa; where Keanu plays some sort of Cyborg Rat Ninja

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Generally speaking, if I'm playing Bo3 ranked I won't scoop until all my options have run out.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Well, only got a chance to do 1 round of play off of quick draft, but it's been a significantly nicer experience than doing a timed draft.

    If I've got about even mix of 3 colors, how much of each land should I be including? I have a couple of those cards that the flip side is a land, but not a ton.

    Edit: Draft Deck
    1 Fearless Fledgling (ZNR) 15
    3 Kor Celebrant (ZNR) 22
    2 Cinderclasm (ZNR) 136
    2 Sejiri Shelter (ZNR) 37
    1 Pyroclastic Hellion (ZNR) 152
    3 Kitesail Cleric (ZNR) 20
    1 Prowling Felidar (ZNR) 34
    1 Akoum Hellhound (ZNR) 133
    2 Scorch Rider (ZNR) 158
    4 Spitfire Lagac (ZNR) 167
    1 Rockslide Sorcerer (ZNR) 154
    1 Bala Ged Recovery (ZNR) 180
    1 Dauntless Unity (ZNR) 9
    2 Kazandu Stomper (ZNR) 191
    1 Expedition Champion (ZNR) 138
    1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword (ZNR) 8
    2 Scale the Heights (ZNR) 202
    2 Might of Murasa (ZNR) 194
    1 Joraga Visionary (ZNR) 188
    2 Grotag Bug-Catcher (ZNR) 142
    1 Canyon Jerboa (ZNR) 7
    5 Plains (ANB) 115
    6 Mountain (ANB) 114
    6 Forest (ANB) 112

    Sideboard
    1 Jwari Disruption (ZNR) 64
    1 Shell Shield (ZNR) 79
    1 Highborn Vampire (ZNR) 107
    1 Thwart the Grave (ZNR) 130
    1 Skyclave Sentinel (ZNR) 253
    1 Cleansing Wildfire (ZNR) 137
    1 Broken Wings (ZNR) 181

    Brody on
    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.

    Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
    Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.

    Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    discrider wrote: »
    Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.

    Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
    Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.

    Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)

    Yeah, I won my first match even if it took me three or four turns to draw any red. Made the Spitfire and Hound in my hand kind of pointless, but Kitesail Cleric did some work.

    Edit, also, I'm at ~54 cards in the deck, should I work on trimming that?

    Brody on
    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Probably, yes.
    Only reason to not trim would be you're playing Eldraine and are worried about mill decks.
    So, yes.

    You should be running close to 40 (although I often run slightly more when I can't decide what to cut; can always come back and change things slightly if cards disappoint me)

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.

    Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
    Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.

    Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)

    Yeah, I won my first match even if it took me three or four turns to draw any red. Made the Spitfire and Hound in my hand kind of pointless, but Kitesail Cleric did some work.

    Edit, also, I'm at ~54 cards in the deck, should I work on trimming that?

    Holy crap yes.

    You could probably cut the green completely?
    1 Fearless Fledgling (ZNR) 15
    3 Kor Celebrant (ZNR) 22
    2 Cinderclasm (ZNR) 136
    2 Sejiri Shelter (ZNR) 37
    1 Pyroclastic Hellion (ZNR) 152
    3 Kitesail Cleric (ZNR) 20
    1 Prowling Felidar (ZNR) 34
    1 Akoum Hellhound (ZNR) 133
    2 Scorch Rider (ZNR) 158
    4 3 Spitfire Lagac (ZNR) 167
    1 Rockslide Sorcerer (ZNR) 154
    1 Bala Ged Recovery (ZNR) 180
    1 Dauntless Unity (ZNR) 9
    2 Kazandu Stomper (ZNR) 191
    1 Expedition Champion (ZNR) 138
    1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword (ZNR) 8
    2 Scale the Heights (ZNR) 202
    2 Might of Murasa (ZNR) 194
    1 Joraga Visionary (ZNR) 188

    2 Grotag Bug-Catcher (ZNR) 142
    1 Canyon Jerboa (ZNR) 7
    5 9 Plains (ANB) 115
    6 8 Mountain (ANB) 114
    6 Forest (ANB) 112

    So, cleaned up...
    1 Akoum Hellhound
    3 Kitesail Cleric
    1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword
    2 Grotag Bug-Catcher
    1 Fearless Fledgling
    3 Kor Celebrant (you don't have a lot of payoffs for these but they hold the ground well and support your party effects)
    1 Expedition Champion
    1 Prowling Felidar
    2 Scorch Rider
    3 Spitfire Lagac
    1 Canyon Jerboa
    1 Pyroclastic Hellion
    --
    20 creatures

    2 Sejiri Shelter
    1 Dauntless Unity
    --
    3 Spells (2 of which can be lands)

    9 Plains
    8 Mountains
    --
    17 lands

    I cut Rockslide Sorcerer since you don't have any other Wizards and not many spells, especially once you remove the Cinderclasms that wreck most of your own team.

    It's a weird mix of party and landfall but it'd be more consistent.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Vyolynce wrote: »
    Brody wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.

    Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
    Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.

    Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)

    Yeah, I won my first match even if it took me three or four turns to draw any red. Made the Spitfire and Hound in my hand kind of pointless, but Kitesail Cleric did some work.

    Edit, also, I'm at ~54 cards in the deck, should I work on trimming that?

    Holy crap yes.

    You could probably cut the green completely?
    1 Fearless Fledgling (ZNR) 15
    3 Kor Celebrant (ZNR) 22
    2 Cinderclasm (ZNR) 136
    2 Sejiri Shelter (ZNR) 37
    1 Pyroclastic Hellion (ZNR) 152
    3 Kitesail Cleric (ZNR) 20
    1 Prowling Felidar (ZNR) 34
    1 Akoum Hellhound (ZNR) 133
    2 Scorch Rider (ZNR) 158
    4 3 Spitfire Lagac (ZNR) 167
    1 Rockslide Sorcerer (ZNR) 154
    1 Bala Ged Recovery (ZNR) 180
    1 Dauntless Unity (ZNR) 9
    2 Kazandu Stomper (ZNR) 191
    1 Expedition Champion (ZNR) 138
    1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword (ZNR) 8
    2 Scale the Heights (ZNR) 202
    2 Might of Murasa (ZNR) 194
    1 Joraga Visionary (ZNR) 188

    2 Grotag Bug-Catcher (ZNR) 142
    1 Canyon Jerboa (ZNR) 7
    5 9 Plains (ANB) 115
    6 8 Mountain (ANB) 114
    6 Forest (ANB) 112

    So, cleaned up...
    1 Akoum Hellhound
    3 Kitesail Cleric
    1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword
    2 Grotag Bug-Catcher
    1 Fearless Fledgling
    3 Kor Celebrant (you don't have a lot of payoffs for these but they hold the ground well and support your party effects)
    1 Expedition Champion
    1 Prowling Felidar
    2 Scorch Rider
    3 Spitfire Lagac
    1 Canyon Jerboa
    1 Pyroclastic Hellion
    --
    20 creatures

    2 Sejiri Shelter
    1 Dauntless Unity
    --
    3 Spells (2 of which can be lands)

    9 Plains
    8 Mountains
    --
    17 lands

    I cut Rockslide Sorcerer since you don't have any other Wizards and not many spells, especially once you remove the Cinderclasms that wreck most of your own team.

    It's a weird mix of party and landfall but it'd be more consistent.

    Cutting green was where I was thinking of trying to drop to 40, so sounds good.

    Yeah, I think I picked up a green card or two at the end of the first pack, and then started the second pack with some really strong green options, and got a little side tracked. And I hit Rockslide and started trying to pick up extra party members.

    Edit: 1 Win with the RWG deck, 3 losses and 3 wins with green trimmed out, felt like it definitely went smoother.

    Brody on
    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Urg, play now is indeed better than the standard ranked as people suggested, but I still feel I would have more fun in a truly random environment where I just played against another standard legal deck without any 'bias'. I feel my decks always get stacked up against specific types of decks, and so some of them are just more fun than others because of who I play against with it. For example, I have a White/Red double strike based deck where I'm trying to win with a flying Momentum Rumbler (T1 = Mountain, shock something. T2 = Plains, Luminous Aspirant. Counter on it. T3 Mountain, Tuktuk Rubblefort. Counter on Luminous, Attack. T4 Plains, Momentum Rumbler. Counter on it. Attack, unless it can't survive. T5, Maul of the skyclaves, counter on Momentum Rumbler. win) and its tons of fun against everything other than blue black mill, counterspells etc. And somehow it seems to play those decks all the time. But, if I play MY White/Black clerics lifegain deck, then I get Green/Blue or White/Red to fight a lot.

    Maybe I just have a better memory for the annoying losses? With the White/Red, I'm at the point where if one of those crabs comes down, I just scoop it up because I feel I know what the rest of the deck is.

    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Which requires the least number of Uncommon/Rares, Zenith Flare or Dimir Rogues?

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Flare, easily.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Rogues requires a lot of uncommons.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    @tbloxham welcome to the matchup algorithm. May it burn in Hell

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    tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    @tbloxham welcome to the matchup algorithm. May it burn in Hell

    The only thing they should have in a matchmaking setup is that if you don't change your deck, you dont get a deck in the same exact colors. So like, no 5 blue black decks in a row.

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I've absolutely quick drafted against a Mythic player as Bronze though, so the system sometimes just gives up

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    I've absolutely quick drafted against a Mythic player as Bronze though, so the system sometimes just gives up

    Quick Draft might be suffering from a lack of player pool from time to time. I have absolutely nothing to back that up though.

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    tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    I've absolutely quick drafted against a Mythic player as Bronze though, so the system sometimes just gives up

    I don't really care about the rank of a player. I care about the style of their deck and playing a variety of styles at random. If its a mythic player with a cool green stompy deck and I just played blue black rogues then thats fine.

    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
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    tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »

    I guess I mean, "For open play" rather than ranked standard or constructed. I dont mind the ladders, although I find the game gets less and less diverse and fun as you get higher in rank in constructed. Draft is better for ranking of course, because draft is closer to a game which is possible to be good or bad at. Magic itself also has skill of course, although probably mainly in person because of bluffing etc, but the contents of your deck dominate the experience. My issue is that I love just playing games of magic, don't really like drafting online, but wish there was a place where I could just play all sorts of random decks.

    Play is indeed a better queue for me, but I feel forced to use specific decks to avoid getting trapped playing decks i find unfun to play against again and again.

    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Adventures in RTFC:

    My opponent is on a frankly sweet BW Humans deck, most notably using Drannith Magistrate to keep my Pharika's Spawn safely in my graveyard (after I discarded it to an Acquisitions Expert). I kill the first Magistrate, they cast a second. I kill the second, they flash in Containment Priest. Fine.

    Biding my time waiting for a Shadows' Verdict to show up and solve all my problems, my opponent goes for the throat and casts Agadeem's Awakening.

    o_O

    They give me the shame "gg" and we play out a few more turns before a Clackbridge Troll shows up and earns the actual scoop.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    So, I didn't have quite the right cards to make a full cycling deck. I had to chose a couple (2) Cycling cards, two of the (3) Cycling lands, and then filled the rest with 3 Kitesail Clerics for cheap bodies. Although now I'm wondering if I should change the Kitesails for Scorches. Or maybe the cycling lands...

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    Oh, hey. FNM Brawl. I haven't played Brawl in a while.

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    I see nothing wrong with this.

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    I was finally looking at the Kaladesh Remastered card list, and while scrolling down I could have sworn that it said Dwarfeater Eagle, not Dawnfeather Eagle.

    Given all of the dwarves in this set, I would contend that Dwarfeater makes at least as much sense.

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    Woah-oh here she comes
    watch out, dwarf, she'll chew you up
    Woah-oh here she comes
    she's a dwarfeater

    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Today's daily deal is for 500 gems so be sure to log on and get em

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    ArmorocArmoroc Registered User regular
    Anyone have any cool decks to play in the 3 set festival? Only Ikoria, Zendikar, and M21.

    My luck with a mono black control deck is pretty low. Every deck I'm up against is mutate, cycling, and rogues.
    I'm generally a control player and I don't want to play those decks I'm usually up against.
    I think I'll try going U/B instead.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Armoroc wrote: »
    Anyone have any cool decks to play in the 3 set festival? Only Ikoria, Zendikar, and M21.

    My luck with a mono black control deck is pretty low. Every deck I'm up against is mutate, cycling, and rogues.
    I'm generally a control player and I don't want to play those decks I'm usually up against.
    I think I'll try going U/B instead.

    W/B lifegain clerics seems real.

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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    I modified my BW control deck; added a splash of green since I opted for Mythos of Nethroi to replace Murderous Rider. That lets me add a Nissa and and actual Nethroi too so hey.

    Was seriously considering crafting a couple of Necromentias to pick off Zenith Flare but I just take the Ls vs Cycling; I still get close, since those are literally the only threats in the deck I care about, but they also draw 3/4ths of their deck every game so...

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    BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    I used the Cycling deck. Also got stomped on by AutumnLily using the same deck.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    If you are gonna do the event for card styles be sure to pack 4 of tormods crypt

    Literally EVERYONE is playing fuckin cycling

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    I think I liked this game better before I knew about scute swarm landfall decks.

    Or counter building decks :D

    Bigity on
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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    the best win is when the mill player finds your Gaea's Blessing and instantly scoops.

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    BreakfastPMBreakfastPM Registered User regular
    500 gems for 300 gems or 1500 gold in the store today!

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    DanHibiki wrote: »
    the best win is when the mill player finds your Gaea's Blessing and instantly scoops.

    Disagree. It's funnier when they make you shuffle your deck several times with it, finally figure out they're screwed, *then* scoop.

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    So you thought you could use pact of negation on my Ulamog? Not when he's targeted your islands!
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    man i'm smrt

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Wow.
    Wow.
    Wow.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
    First Kaladesh Sealed deck had some mediocre/bad rares, no hard removal, and one Sneky boi.
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    Went 5-3, which far exceeded my expectations. Believe in the Snek!

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    DanHibikiDanHibiki Registered User regular
    Ya got greedy Dragonlord! Now there's a Plane Wide Celebration in my trousers and you're not invited!
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    VyolynceVyolynce Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Pour one out for my poor monowhite opponent. They opened on Fencing Ace and I killed it. Then Heliod, Sun-Crowned; sure, glad that other thing's dead.

    Then they cast Linden, the Steadfast Queen and Alseid of Life's Bounty, swinging for 6 with Heliod.

    My next turn was Extinction Event for odds. I don't often eat a God with that but when I do it feels great.

    Two turns later Kaervek showed up to turn off their Castle Ardenvale because why not.

    Vyolynce on
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    BoomerAang SquadBoomerAang Squad Registered User regular
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    Finally got 7 wins in sealed. All it took was a Wrath+, a Regrowth X spell, and two discount Icy Manipulators.

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    WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    I'm not usually one for alternate card art, but the alternate art for Order of Midnight that's part of today's Daily Deals is so pretty, I kind of had to have it.

    Besides, I run Order of Midnight both in my monoBlack and Orzhov Knights decks, so it's just pretty to have.

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