Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Generally speaking, if I'm playing Bo3 ranked I won't scoop until all my options have run out.
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BrodyThe WatchThe First ShoreRegistered Userregular
edited November 2020
Well, only got a chance to do 1 round of play off of quick draft, but it's been a significantly nicer experience than doing a timed draft.
If I've got about even mix of 3 colors, how much of each land should I be including? I have a couple of those cards that the flip side is a land, but not a ton.
Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.
Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.
Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)
Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.
Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.
Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)
Yeah, I won my first match even if it took me three or four turns to draw any red. Made the Spitfire and Hound in my hand kind of pointless, but Kitesail Cleric did some work.
Edit, also, I'm at ~54 cards in the deck, should I work on trimming that?
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"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Probably, yes.
Only reason to not trim would be you're playing Eldraine and are worried about mill decks.
So, yes.
You should be running close to 40 (although I often run slightly more when I can't decide what to cut; can always come back and change things slightly if cards disappoint me)
Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.
Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.
Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)
Yeah, I won my first match even if it took me three or four turns to draw any red. Made the Spitfire and Hound in my hand kind of pointless, but Kitesail Cleric did some work.
Edit, also, I'm at ~54 cards in the deck, should I work on trimming that?
1 Akoum Hellhound
3 Kitesail Cleric
1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword
2 Grotag Bug-Catcher
1 Fearless Fledgling
3 Kor Celebrant (you don't have a lot of payoffs for these but they hold the ground well and support your party effects)
1 Expedition Champion
1 Prowling Felidar
2 Scorch Rider
3 Spitfire Lagac
1 Canyon Jerboa
1 Pyroclastic Hellion
--
20 creatures
2 Sejiri Shelter
1 Dauntless Unity
--
3 Spells (2 of which can be lands)
9 Plains
8 Mountains
--
17 lands
I cut Rockslide Sorcerer since you don't have any other Wizards and not many spells, especially once you remove the Cinderclasms that wreck most of your own team.
It's a weird mix of party and landfall but it'd be more consistent.
Depends on whether the colours are equally distributed.
Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.
Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)
Yeah, I won my first match even if it took me three or four turns to draw any red. Made the Spitfire and Hound in my hand kind of pointless, but Kitesail Cleric did some work.
Edit, also, I'm at ~54 cards in the deck, should I work on trimming that?
1 Akoum Hellhound
3 Kitesail Cleric
1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword
2 Grotag Bug-Catcher
1 Fearless Fledgling
3 Kor Celebrant (you don't have a lot of payoffs for these but they hold the ground well and support your party effects)
1 Expedition Champion
1 Prowling Felidar
2 Scorch Rider
3 Spitfire Lagac
1 Canyon Jerboa
1 Pyroclastic Hellion
--
20 creatures
2 Sejiri Shelter
1 Dauntless Unity
--
3 Spells (2 of which can be lands)
9 Plains
8 Mountains
--
17 lands
I cut Rockslide Sorcerer since you don't have any other Wizards and not many spells, especially once you remove the Cinderclasms that wreck most of your own team.
It's a weird mix of party and landfall but it'd be more consistent.
Cutting green was where I was thinking of trying to drop to 40, so sounds good.
Yeah, I think I picked up a green card or two at the end of the first pack, and then started the second pack with some really strong green options, and got a little side tracked. And I hit Rockslide and started trying to pick up extra party members.
Edit: 1 Win with the RWG deck, 3 losses and 3 wins with green trimmed out, felt like it definitely went smoother.
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"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Urg, play now is indeed better than the standard ranked as people suggested, but I still feel I would have more fun in a truly random environment where I just played against another standard legal deck without any 'bias'. I feel my decks always get stacked up against specific types of decks, and so some of them are just more fun than others because of who I play against with it. For example, I have a White/Red double strike based deck where I'm trying to win with a flying Momentum Rumbler (T1 = Mountain, shock something. T2 = Plains, Luminous Aspirant. Counter on it. T3 Mountain, Tuktuk Rubblefort. Counter on Luminous, Attack. T4 Plains, Momentum Rumbler. Counter on it. Attack, unless it can't survive. T5, Maul of the skyclaves, counter on Momentum Rumbler. win) and its tons of fun against everything other than blue black mill, counterspells etc. And somehow it seems to play those decks all the time. But, if I play MY White/Black clerics lifegain deck, then I get Green/Blue or White/Red to fight a lot.
Maybe I just have a better memory for the annoying losses? With the White/Red, I'm at the point where if one of those crabs comes down, I just scoop it up because I feel I know what the rest of the deck is.
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BrodyThe WatchThe First ShoreRegistered Userregular
Which requires the least number of Uncommon/Rares, Zenith Flare or Dimir Rogues?
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
@tbloxham welcome to the matchup algorithm. May it burn in Hell
The only thing they should have in a matchmaking setup is that if you don't change your deck, you dont get a deck in the same exact colors. So like, no 5 blue black decks in a row.
I've absolutely quick drafted against a Mythic player as Bronze though, so the system sometimes just gives up
I don't really care about the rank of a player. I care about the style of their deck and playing a variety of styles at random. If its a mythic player with a cool green stompy deck and I just played blue black rogues then thats fine.
I guess I mean, "For open play" rather than ranked standard or constructed. I dont mind the ladders, although I find the game gets less and less diverse and fun as you get higher in rank in constructed. Draft is better for ranking of course, because draft is closer to a game which is possible to be good or bad at. Magic itself also has skill of course, although probably mainly in person because of bluffing etc, but the contents of your deck dominate the experience. My issue is that I love just playing games of magic, don't really like drafting online, but wish there was a place where I could just play all sorts of random decks.
Play is indeed a better queue for me, but I feel forced to use specific decks to avoid getting trapped playing decks i find unfun to play against again and again.
My opponent is on a frankly sweet BW Humans deck, most notably using Drannith Magistrate to keep my Pharika's Spawn safely in my graveyard (after I discarded it to an Acquisitions Expert). I kill the first Magistrate, they cast a second. I kill the second, they flash in Containment Priest. Fine.
Biding my time waiting for a Shadows' Verdict to show up and solve all my problems, my opponent goes for the throat and casts Agadeem's Awakening.
o_O
They give me the shame "gg" and we play out a few more turns before a Clackbridge Troll shows up and earns the actual scoop.
BrodyThe WatchThe First ShoreRegistered Userregular
So, I didn't have quite the right cards to make a full cycling deck. I had to chose a couple (2) Cycling cards, two of the (3) Cycling lands, and then filled the rest with 3 Kitesail Clerics for cheap bodies. Although now I'm wondering if I should change the Kitesails for Scorches. Or maybe the cycling lands...
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
Oh, hey. FNM Brawl. I haven't played Brawl in a while.
I see nothing wrong with this.
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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I was finally looking at the Kaladesh Remastered card list, and while scrolling down I could have sworn that it said Dwarfeater Eagle, not Dawnfeather Eagle.
Given all of the dwarves in this set, I would contend that Dwarfeater makes at least as much sense.
Woah-oh here she comes
watch out, dwarf, she'll chew you up
Woah-oh here she comes
she's a dwarfeater
every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
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Anyone have any cool decks to play in the 3 set festival? Only Ikoria, Zendikar, and M21.
My luck with a mono black control deck is pretty low. Every deck I'm up against is mutate, cycling, and rogues.
I'm generally a control player and I don't want to play those decks I'm usually up against.
I think I'll try going U/B instead.
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admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
Anyone have any cool decks to play in the 3 set festival? Only Ikoria, Zendikar, and M21.
My luck with a mono black control deck is pretty low. Every deck I'm up against is mutate, cycling, and rogues.
I'm generally a control player and I don't want to play those decks I'm usually up against.
I think I'll try going U/B instead.
I modified my BW control deck; added a splash of green since I opted for Mythos of Nethroi to replace Murderous Rider. That lets me add a Nissa and and actual Nethroi too so hey.
Was seriously considering crafting a couple of Necromentias to pick off Zenith Flare but I just take the Ls vs Cycling; I still get close, since those are literally the only threats in the deck I care about, but they also draw 3/4ths of their deck every game so...
I used the Cycling deck. Also got stomped on by AutumnLily using the same deck.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
If you are gonna do the event for card styles be sure to pack 4 of tormods crypt
Literally EVERYONE is playing fuckin cycling
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So you thought you could use pact of negation on my Ulamog? Not when he's targeted your islands!
man i'm smrt
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Wow.
Wow. Wow.
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I'm not usually one for alternate card art, but the alternate art for Order of Midnight that's part of today's Daily Deals is so pretty, I kind of had to have it.
Besides, I run Order of Midnight both in my monoBlack and Orzhov Knights decks, so it's just pretty to have.
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If I've got about even mix of 3 colors, how much of each land should I be including? I have a couple of those cards that the flip side is a land, but not a ton.
Edit: Draft Deck
3 Kor Celebrant (ZNR) 22
2 Cinderclasm (ZNR) 136
2 Sejiri Shelter (ZNR) 37
1 Pyroclastic Hellion (ZNR) 152
3 Kitesail Cleric (ZNR) 20
1 Prowling Felidar (ZNR) 34
1 Akoum Hellhound (ZNR) 133
2 Scorch Rider (ZNR) 158
4 Spitfire Lagac (ZNR) 167
1 Rockslide Sorcerer (ZNR) 154
1 Bala Ged Recovery (ZNR) 180
1 Dauntless Unity (ZNR) 9
2 Kazandu Stomper (ZNR) 191
1 Expedition Champion (ZNR) 138
1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword (ZNR) 8
2 Scale the Heights (ZNR) 202
2 Might of Murasa (ZNR) 194
1 Joraga Visionary (ZNR) 188
2 Grotag Bug-Catcher (ZNR) 142
1 Canyon Jerboa (ZNR) 7
5 Plains (ANB) 115
6 Mountain (ANB) 114
6 Forest (ANB) 112
Sideboard
1 Jwari Disruption (ZNR) 64
1 Shell Shield (ZNR) 79
1 Highborn Vampire (ZNR) 107
1 Thwart the Grave (ZNR) 130
1 Skyclave Sentinel (ZNR) 253
1 Cleansing Wildfire (ZNR) 137
1 Broken Wings (ZNR) 181
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Hopefully one of your colours has more late game high cost cards with only a single coloured mana.
Then you can reduce the number of lands in that colour while including more of the lands you need for the early game cards.
Otherwise even split and hope no color screw. (Colour screw is likely)
Yeah, I won my first match even if it took me three or four turns to draw any red. Made the Spitfire and Hound in my hand kind of pointless, but Kitesail Cleric did some work.
Edit, also, I'm at ~54 cards in the deck, should I work on trimming that?
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Only reason to not trim would be you're playing Eldraine and are worried about mill decks.
So, yes.
You should be running close to 40 (although I often run slightly more when I can't decide what to cut; can always come back and change things slightly if cards disappoint me)
Holy crap yes.
You could probably cut the green completely?
3 Kor Celebrant (ZNR) 22
2 Cinderclasm (ZNR) 136
2 Sejiri Shelter (ZNR) 37
1 Pyroclastic Hellion (ZNR) 152
3 Kitesail Cleric (ZNR) 20
1 Prowling Felidar (ZNR) 34
1 Akoum Hellhound (ZNR) 133
2 Scorch Rider (ZNR) 158
4 3 Spitfire Lagac (ZNR) 167
1 Rockslide Sorcerer (ZNR) 154
1 Bala Ged Recovery (ZNR) 180
1 Dauntless Unity (ZNR) 9
2 Kazandu Stomper (ZNR) 191
1 Expedition Champion (ZNR) 138
1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword (ZNR) 8
2 Scale the Heights (ZNR) 202
2 Might of Murasa (ZNR) 194
1 Joraga Visionary (ZNR) 188
2 Grotag Bug-Catcher (ZNR) 142
1 Canyon Jerboa (ZNR) 7
5 9 Plains (ANB) 115
6 8 Mountain (ANB) 114
6 Forest (ANB) 112
So, cleaned up...
3 Kitesail Cleric
1 Cliffhaven Sell-Sword
2 Grotag Bug-Catcher
1 Fearless Fledgling
3 Kor Celebrant (you don't have a lot of payoffs for these but they hold the ground well and support your party effects)
1 Expedition Champion
1 Prowling Felidar
2 Scorch Rider
3 Spitfire Lagac
1 Canyon Jerboa
1 Pyroclastic Hellion
--
20 creatures
2 Sejiri Shelter
1 Dauntless Unity
--
3 Spells (2 of which can be lands)
9 Plains
8 Mountains
--
17 lands
I cut Rockslide Sorcerer since you don't have any other Wizards and not many spells, especially once you remove the Cinderclasms that wreck most of your own team.
It's a weird mix of party and landfall but it'd be more consistent.
Cutting green was where I was thinking of trying to drop to 40, so sounds good.
Yeah, I think I picked up a green card or two at the end of the first pack, and then started the second pack with some really strong green options, and got a little side tracked. And I hit Rockslide and started trying to pick up extra party members.
Edit: 1 Win with the RWG deck, 3 losses and 3 wins with green trimmed out, felt like it definitely went smoother.
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Maybe I just have a better memory for the annoying losses? With the White/Red, I'm at the point where if one of those crabs comes down, I just scoop it up because I feel I know what the rest of the deck is.
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The only thing they should have in a matchmaking setup is that if you don't change your deck, you dont get a deck in the same exact colors. So like, no 5 blue black decks in a row.
https://draftsim.com/mtg-arena-matchmaking/
Quick Draft might be suffering from a lack of player pool from time to time. I have absolutely nothing to back that up though.
I don't really care about the rank of a player. I care about the style of their deck and playing a variety of styles at random. If its a mythic player with a cool green stompy deck and I just played blue black rogues then thats fine.
I guess I mean, "For open play" rather than ranked standard or constructed. I dont mind the ladders, although I find the game gets less and less diverse and fun as you get higher in rank in constructed. Draft is better for ranking of course, because draft is closer to a game which is possible to be good or bad at. Magic itself also has skill of course, although probably mainly in person because of bluffing etc, but the contents of your deck dominate the experience. My issue is that I love just playing games of magic, don't really like drafting online, but wish there was a place where I could just play all sorts of random decks.
Play is indeed a better queue for me, but I feel forced to use specific decks to avoid getting trapped playing decks i find unfun to play against again and again.
My opponent is on a frankly sweet BW Humans deck, most notably using Drannith Magistrate to keep my Pharika's Spawn safely in my graveyard (after I discarded it to an Acquisitions Expert). I kill the first Magistrate, they cast a second. I kill the second, they flash in Containment Priest. Fine.
Biding my time waiting for a Shadows' Verdict to show up and solve all my problems, my opponent goes for the throat and casts Agadeem's Awakening.
o_O
They give me the shame "gg" and we play out a few more turns before a Clackbridge Troll shows up and earns the actual scoop.
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
I see nothing wrong with this.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Given all of the dwarves in this set, I would contend that Dwarfeater makes at least as much sense.
watch out, dwarf, she'll chew you up
Woah-oh here she comes
she's a dwarfeater
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
My luck with a mono black control deck is pretty low. Every deck I'm up against is mutate, cycling, and rogues.
I'm generally a control player and I don't want to play those decks I'm usually up against.
I think I'll try going U/B instead.
W/B lifegain clerics seems real.
Was seriously considering crafting a couple of Necromentias to pick off Zenith Flare but I just take the Ls vs Cycling; I still get close, since those are literally the only threats in the deck I care about, but they also draw 3/4ths of their deck every game so...
Literally EVERYONE is playing fuckin cycling
Or counter building decks
Disagree. It's funnier when they make you shuffle your deck several times with it, finally figure out they're screwed, *then* scoop.
man i'm smrt
Wow.
Wow.
Went 5-3, which far exceeded my expectations. Believe in the Snek!
Then they cast Linden, the Steadfast Queen and Alseid of Life's Bounty, swinging for 6 with Heliod.
My next turn was Extinction Event for odds. I don't often eat a God with that but when I do it feels great.
Two turns later Kaervek showed up to turn off their Castle Ardenvale because why not.
Finally got 7 wins in sealed. All it took was a Wrath+, a Regrowth X spell, and two discount Icy Manipulators.
Besides, I run Order of Midnight both in my monoBlack and Orzhov Knights decks, so it's just pretty to have.