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[Magic The Gathering Arena] Kamigawa; where Keanu plays some sort of Cyborg Rat Ninja

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    How do I hold priority in order to respond to my own triggers in Arena? I've tried holding control but it still doesn't stop to let me act in response to my own trigger.

    Specific situation:

    I have an Oran-Rief Ooze and another creature with no counters on it in play. I attack with both creatures. I have a Stony Strength in hand. I want to respond to the trigger of Oran-Rief Ooze with Stony Strength to place a counter on my other attacking creature so that when it resolves it sees that the other attacking creature has a counter on it.

    CTRL+Shift is hold priority

    Welp. Thanks!

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2020
    A flying rogue that they can't block because they have no way to block fliers into a free Zareth San activation almost feels like cheating.

    Of course, the unblocked Zareth San by choice into I Guess That's My Garruk Now is a bit more of a headscratcher.

    Aegis on
    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Tapping CTRL also puts you into Full Control mode, which will automatically hold priority for everything.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Tapping CTRL also puts you into Full Control mode, which will automatically hold priority for everything.

    So my problem then was holding CTRL? T_T

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    [5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    admanb wrote: »
    Tapping CTRL also puts you into Full Control mode, which will automatically hold priority for everything.

    So my problem then was holding CTRL? T_T

    Probably! XD

    If you're in Full Control mode it'll say Full Control in the bottom right of the screen above the pass priority button, so just make sure that's there.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Oh god, I started my first draft, and now I'm panicking.

    edit: Yeah, I don't know why I did that, I always hate drafting for card games, other than like sushi go or something.

    Brody on
    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    You don't need to panic I'm quick draft because there's no timer. If you're paralyzed by choice, use the tier lists to help

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    I guess my issue is that I'm never sure what cards to pick, even with a list up. I just don't have time in that minute to try and read every card, then look through all the charts.

    And then I always somehow end up with a billion 2 and 3 cost cards, and nothing big or game breaking. I literally lost to a 3 or 4 color decks that looked like he just grabbed anything with a statblock and threw it in.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    You don't need to panic I'm quick draft because there's no timer. If you're paralyzed by choice, use the tier lists to help

    I tried premier, and I feel like maybe that was a mistake.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

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    RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Do quick draft until you're comfortable drafting, at least. Not only is there no timer, iirc you can close out of the game and come back the next day in the middle of your draft and it's fine.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    Brody wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    You don't need to panic I'm quick draft because there's no timer. If you're paralyzed by choice, use the tier lists to help

    I tried premier, and I feel like maybe that was a mistake.

    Yeah no, you absolutely want quick draft.
    Then I feel like you need to get a handle on the archetypes that work in the set, before becoming confident in the deck that you've built.

    Or just rare draft for the free to play cards.

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    RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Given how it's not at all the same drafting against bots, I think you should always rare draft in quick draft unless you already have 4 of the rare and it wouldn't help your draft.

    With pretty uncommon exception the bots rare draft too. And that's what basically everyone else is doing in quick draft, so it's not like you'll be especially behind by taking a couple first picks you won't actually use.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I guess I was avoiding quick, because its only available for Theros, but it looks like all the sets available right now are going to rotate together?

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    I don't like playing singleton cascade

    but I do like these card styles

    I hate that they're making me do this

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    KetarKetar Come on upstairs we're having a partyRegistered User regular
    Singleton cascade was great.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The trick to singleton cascade is to play mill and have a lot of 2 and 3 mana spells, and just the crab/merfolk millwizard as the only one drops.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    Yeah, I guess I was avoiding quick, because its only available for Theros, but it looks like all the sets available right now are going to rotate together?

    Beginning of November I think is when we get Zendikar quick draft back.

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Ranlin wrote: »
    Brody wrote: »
    Yeah, I guess I was avoiding quick, because its only available for Theros, but it looks like all the sets available right now are going to rotate together?

    Beginning of November I think is when we get Zendikar quick draft back.

    They rotate every 2 weeks, but I believe the current set has a longer stay time the first time it rotates in.

    https://draftsim.com/mtg-arena-schedule/

    So mid-Nov I'm guessing will be M21(?)

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Is there a way to pop out the deathsies Tier lists? I can't get the 5 colors all visible at the same time...

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    Is there a way to pop out the deathsies Tier lists? I can't get the 5 colors all visible at the same time...

    His lists are actually just a Google doc. Kind of irritating that MTGAZone doesn't include a link.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    admanb wrote: »
    Brody wrote: »
    Is there a way to pop out the deathsies Tier lists? I can't get the 5 colors all visible at the same time...

    His lists are actually just a Google doc. Kind of irritating that MTGAZone doesn't include a link.

    Thats what I thought looking at it, but I couldn't find a way to access the sheet itself.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

    Steam: Korvalain
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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Trying to mill a cycle deck makes for some very painful Zenith Flares.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    [5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    Trying to mill a cycle deck makes for some very painful Zenith Flares.

    Gotta save those counterspells.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    Trying to mill a cycle deck makes for some very painful Zenith Flares.

    feels great when a red player burns removal damage on my chaff creatures with cycling instead of going face

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    Trying to mill a cycle deck makes for some very painful Zenith Flares.

    Gotta save those counterspells.

    As if I draw those.

    Though I'm relatively new to this standard so there's going to be a lot of cards I don't know about.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    [5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Trying to mill a cycle deck makes for some very painful Zenith Flares.

    Gotta save those counterspells.

    As if I draw those.

    Though I'm relatively new to this standard so there's going to be a lot of cards I don't know about.

    If you're playing mill you should have four of drown in the loch.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    If youre new I can see not realizing what youre up against until the flares start dropping. Its not like its the only deck that cycles.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Trying to mill a cycle deck makes for some very painful Zenith Flares.

    Gotta save those counterspells.

    As if I draw those.

    Though I'm relatively new to this standard so there's going to be a lot of cards I don't know about.

    If you're playing mill you should have four of drown in the loch.

    Yea, those are the ones I don't draw :P

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    [5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    If youre new I can see not realizing what youre up against until the flares start dropping. Its not like its the only deck that cycles.

    It feels weird hearing both cycling and mill being common archetypes in 2021. I remember in college a friend had an Astral Slide deck that was an exercise in futility to play against.

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

    The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    If youre new I can see not realizing what youre up against until the flares start dropping. Its not like its the only deck that cycles.

    It feels weird hearing both cycling and mill being common archetypes in 2021. I remember in college a friend had an Astral Slide deck that was an exercise in futility to play against.

    I wonder how R/W/X zenith flare does these days. Could hang with the old standard but its the wild west right now.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    The real confusion about playing against the cycling deck was seeing a Cycle for 1 mana card which just felt unfair. Cycle is 2 mana goddamnit.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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    [5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    If youre new I can see not realizing what youre up against until the flares start dropping. Its not like its the only deck that cycles.

    It feels weird hearing both cycling and mill being common archetypes in 2021. I remember in college a friend had an Astral Slide deck that was an exercise in futility to play against.

    I wonder how R/W/X zenith flare does these days. Could hang with the old standard but its the wild west right now.

    I've run into it a few times. Was fairly effective buuut I forgot that Zenith Flare was a thing for the first one which biases the sample a bit >.>

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The biggest issue with zenith flare cycle decks is how many strong, meta decks run mainboard graveyard hate.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    RanlinRanlin Oh gosh Registered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    The real confusion about playing against the cycling deck was seeing a Cycle for 1 mana card which just felt unfair. Cycle is 2 mana goddamnit.

    That's the whole basis of the deck, though. A few creatures to benefit from the cycles, zenith flare, then a couple very situational cards you can maybe use instead of cycle, and a bunch of cards that you don't even have the mana type for, they're just for the 1 cost cycle.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Ranlin wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    The real confusion about playing against the cycling deck was seeing a Cycle for 1 mana card which just felt unfair. Cycle is 2 mana goddamnit.

    That's the whole basis of the deck, though. A few creatures to benefit from the cycles, zenith flare, then a couple very situational cards you can maybe use instead of cycle, and a bunch of cards that you don't even have the mana type for, they're just for the 1 cost cycle.

    I find it kinda funny that it runs a lot of cards just for the (1) CMC cycle.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    Ranlin wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    The real confusion about playing against the cycling deck was seeing a Cycle for 1 mana card which just felt unfair. Cycle is 2 mana goddamnit.

    That's the whole basis of the deck, though. A few creatures to benefit from the cycles, zenith flare, then a couple very situational cards you can maybe use instead of cycle, and a bunch of cards that you don't even have the mana type for, they're just for the 1 cost cycle.

    Aegis isn't wrong about the cost of cycling, though. Before Ikoria, cycling cost either 2 colorless or 1 single/hybrid color mana at a minimum. Cycling for generic 1 is new in Ikoria.

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
    edited October 2020
    The biggest issue with zenith flare cycle decks is how many strong, meta decks run mainboard graveyard hate.

    Fewer post jund sac at least, a lot of it is targeted hate which isnt a huge deal
    admanb wrote: »
    Ranlin wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    The real confusion about playing against the cycling deck was seeing a Cycle for 1 mana card which just felt unfair. Cycle is 2 mana goddamnit.

    That's the whole basis of the deck, though. A few creatures to benefit from the cycles, zenith flare, then a couple very situational cards you can maybe use instead of cycle, and a bunch of cards that you don't even have the mana type for, they're just for the 1 cost cycle.

    Aegis isn't wrong about the cost of cycling, though. Before Ikoria, cycling cost either 2 colorless or 1 single/hybrid color mana at a minimum. Cycling for generic 1 is new in Ikoria.

    Excepting Flare, which is very strong, the tertiary tied in effects that made cyling of old decks so good isnt much there these days.

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    One more land and I would have milled my opponent's entire deck twice in a single game.

    Stupid Midnight Clock.

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
    Currently DMing: None :(
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    [5e] Dural Melairkyn - AC 18 | HP 40 | Melee +5/1d8+3 | Spell +4/DC 12
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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    One more land and I would have milled my opponent's entire deck twice in a single game.

    Stupid Midnight Clock.

    Just be glad Gaia's Blessing isn't in standard :P

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    AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    One more land and I would have milled my opponent's entire deck twice in a single game.

    Stupid Midnight Clock.

    Just be glad Gaia's Blessing isn't in standard :P

    Oh dear christ

    We'll see how long this blog lasts
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