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The Polar Bear Punching [PUNISHER THREAD]
Calamity Jane
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The Punisher is a vigilante tragically spurned to a never-ending quest for vengeance after his family was gunned down in Central Park, NY.
He spends his day ruthlessly hunting and punishing criminals with his own unique brand of what he deems justice.
In other words, he kills bad people en masse.
Frank Castle has been on the rise in recent years, after an excellent Marvel Knights series by Garth Ennis, and the ongoing Punisher MAX series by the same author.
He's also had a major resurgence in the main "Marvel Universe" in the Matt Fraction penned "Punisher War Journal" ongoing that spun out of the Civil War event.
So here's where we discuss the definitive moments, arcs and machine gunnings that The Punisher has given us over the years!
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Basically, it gives that character some distinction from the others. Either it's some sort of evil entity that gives him his war that never ends, or he's just batfuck insane. I'm going for the latter.
On topic I'm really interested to see how far they'll take the "Captain America" Punisher. The idea of a man who you know can't do the job, but really really wants to, should be fun to read. I just hope they don't kill the character in the process.
I have to admit that I haven't read very much related to the Punisher, so I can't comment on specific arcs or stories, but they're both 'realistic' characters in the sense that neither has powers, and both are essentially driven against incredible circumstances by unstoppable will and singularity of purpose.
Then, of course, things diverge. Bruce doesn't kill, Punisher does. I'm not sure which is more satisfying. Maybe they're two sides of the same 'fantasy'.
Logan doesn't have any kind of physical resistance, does he? He's got the durability/density of a normal human, he just heals ridiculously fast.
Punisher was an adult when he lost his family, meanwhile, and he really maintains no illusions about even being able to stop crime. He doesn't really go on patrol as often as he engages in pre-meditated murder.
Maybe it's because he's beyond the influences of pulp heroes like Zorro and the Grey Ghost, and so isn't prone to their garish but arguably more ineffective approaches to crime-fighting.
Bruce wants to prevent it.
Frank wants to punish those who commit it, but with the realistic expectation that in the end it is going to keep happening despite what he might do.
Reactive versus proactive?
Crime? Warren Ellis said it best through the mouth of The Midnighter. "Why go out and beat up poor people"
I like it whenever Punisher or Batman takes on corrupt city officials or gov't officials.
well, except that he has adamantium laced bones, making him extremely dense. It's hard to move wolverine when he doesn't want you to.
Also considering how muscle growth work since he heals very quickly when he works out he gets immediate recovery. And since he is lugging that much metal around he is always working out. And considering that he can do flips and stuff and is pretty nimble he must be VERY strong. So yeah. Wolverine is more durable then a muscular human being with body armor.
On the topic of Punisher... Utsanomiko needs to post all his Punisher sigs that he made using a borrowed copy of my Punisher Vol. 1 HC.
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And is there a moratorium on using Jigsaw, at least as far as Ennis is concerned? I don't think the character has appeared in any Punisher books since Ennis' relaunch.
4000 or so for 616 Punisher.
Edit: It took me a while for this. 3000 of 616's were on that island he nuked.
Nope.
The only other Marvel character that has shown up in the books is Nick Fury. No super heroes or villains have been mentioned.
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There is a distinct lack of superheroes in his continuity. The only major character to make the jump into his MAX series is Nick Fury.
Edit: Goddamn I am slow on the draw.
Punisher War Journal makes me sad. With the exception of the Stiltman issue I'm just not feeling it.
And why is Howard Chaykin doing art on the 50th MAX issue? WHY GOD WHY?
One isn't a continuation of the other.
Yeah, I just realized that.
Get out.
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Castle's MAX exploits were mentioned in that CW debriefing thing that came out. I think the mentioned the Slaver ring and the Russian Mafia stuff.
Edit: That thing is wrong.
That costume was designed by the Hate-Monger, FYI.
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Well, it's long been speculated that Molly's superstrength is telekinetic rather than just strength, so I've always assumed it adapts to whatever threat she faces - stronger when the opponent is stronger, weaker when the opponent is weaker, that kind of thing.
But... yeah, Punisher! Did I hear someone say there's a new Punisher movie being made but the guy from the previous movie won't be in it?
They're still two different universes. They're significantly different worlds, and while yes he deals with things superheroes never really do...at some point there would have been a meeting between him and Murdock when all that shit went down in Hell's Kitchen.
I only saw a bit on television, but the Russian fight was pretty awesome.
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