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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Qanon and Pro Trump signs have been a common sighting in UK anti lockdown protests and seems to be getting more and more common over here.

    Hope your government moves to stamp them out as soon as possible, before they can take root

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Will probably give then an island

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Madican wrote: »
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Qanon and Pro Trump signs have been a common sighting in UK anti lockdown protests and seems to be getting more and more common over here.

    Hope your government moves to stamp them out as soon as possible, before they can take root

    oh buddy I have some NEWS about the UK government

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    BlackDragon480BlackDragon480 Bluster Kerfuffle Master of Windy ImportRegistered User regular
    Will probably give then an island
    I've heard good things about St. Helena. Its amenities are worthy of Emperors.

    No matter where you go...there you are.
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    tynic wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    SharpyVII wrote: »
    Qanon and Pro Trump signs have been a common sighting in UK anti lockdown protests and seems to be getting more and more common over here.

    Hope your government moves to stamp them out as soon as possible, before they can take root

    oh buddy I have some NEWS about the UK government

    yeah uh, tories are just slightly less blatantly evil than republicans

    so

    ya know

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Will probably give then an island

    Can it be the island with all the snakes?

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    TefTef Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Will probably give then an island

    Can it be the island with all the snakes?

    There are enough fascists in Australia, thank you very much

    help a fellow forumer meet their mental health care needs because USA healthcare sucks!

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Tef wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Will probably give then an island

    Can it be the island with all the snakes?

    There are enough fascists in Australia, thank you very much

    Madican might mean Guam, but the US already owns that.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    I would suggest sending the fascists to another planet, but no planet deserves fascists. Not even mercury.

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Will probably give then an island

    Can it be the island with all the snakes?

    What do you have against snakes?

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    Push all the garbage in the pacific together until its thick enough to stand on

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    tynic wrote: »
    Tef wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Will probably give then an island

    Can it be the island with all the snakes?

    There are enough fascists in Australia, thank you very much

    Madican might mean Guam, but the US already owns that.

    I thought there was an island somewhere in the UK where it's all snakes. Like covering the island at night, Indiana Jones greatest nightmare level. Think it was in a Cracked article ages ago. Edit: Oh, looks like it was near Brazil. I was way off. Maybe you can borrow it for a bit though

    There's also one with all cats but I'll be damned if the fascists get to set one foot there.

    Madican on
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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    oh that's Dnaleri, Ireland's evil twin

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    What about Hell?

    I feel like a lot of energy gets expended finding a bad places and things on Earth, can we bring back Hell please?

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    We should send all the fascists to Wolf 359, maybe.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    I would suggest sending the fascists to another planet, but no planet deserves fascists. Not even mercury.

    We should reserve that honor for all those wrongly convicted and whove lost years of life in prison. Let them become the names for.which new settlements are christened.

    Also, we have a lot of them, and will need to name a lot of colonies

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Obama had along ass interview in the Atlantic and its comforting to see that he agrees with me that Palin was the seed of this rot.

    Although I never remembered the CNBC tea party thing.

    Gotta google how that started.
    Goldberg: Is this new malevolent information architecture bending the moral arc away from justice?

    Obama: I think it is the single biggest threat to our democracy. I think Donald Trump is a creature of this, but he did not create it. He may be an accelerant of it, but it preceded him and will outlast him. I am deeply troubled by how we address it, because back in those Walter Cronkite days—

    Goldberg: Forget Walter Cronkite days; how about 2008 Iowa? I’m not sure that a person with your name and your background could walk into Iowa today and get a 10-minute fair shake.

    Obama: It’s a pretty drastic change. Part of the common narrative was a function of the three major networks and a handful of papers that were disproportionately influential. You can’t put the genie back in the bottle. You’re not going to eliminate the internet; you’re not going to eliminate the thousand stations on the air with niche viewerships designed for every political preference. Without this it becomes very difficult for us to tackle big things. It becomes hard for us to say, “Hey, we have a pandemic here; it’s deadly; it’s serious; let’s put partisanship aside; let’s listen to Anthony Fauci because he’s been studying stuff like this for a long time. We may not get everything exactly right, because science works iteratively, but let’s hew as closely as we can to the science. Let’s do what science tells us to do to save lives.” That becomes harder to do.

    RoyceSraphim on
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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    There was something with Truthiness or something during the Dubya administration, the USA invaded Iraq on an obvious lie, the Daily Show got a lot of laughs about it

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    There was something with Truthiness or something during the Dubya administration, the USA invaded Iraq on an obvious lie, the Daily Show got a lot of laughs about it

    Yeah. Like Obama said, she and Trump didnt come out from no where but it was her joining to McCain and that combo..... *gesticulates wildly* and suddenly ulyou have tea party protests, joe the plumber, mainstreet USA, all those libertarians and fiscal conservatives fools into believing this is their party.

    The waveform was always there, but McCain Palin was where the amplitude changed

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Anyone who doesn't see very obvious parallels between the current administration and the Reagan administration just isn't paying attention.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Anyone who doesn't see very obvious parallels between the current administration and the Reagan administration just isn't paying attention.

    Sorry, I was living under the rule of a real ass fucking dictator at the time, and I was 6, my focus was elsewhere. Besides the parallel between covid and AIDS, what are you implying?

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    NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Anyone who doesn't see very obvious parallels between the current administration and the Reagan administration just isn't paying attention.

    Sorry, I was living under the rule of a real ass fucking dictator at the time, and I was 6, my focus was elsewhere. Besides the parallel between covid and AIDS, what are you implying?

    That's a really fucking aggressive way to ask that question!

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    I wouldn't sweat it

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Narbus wrote: »
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Anyone who doesn't see very obvious parallels between the current administration and the Reagan administration just isn't paying attention.

    Sorry, I was living under the rule of a real ass fucking dictator at the time, and I was 6, my focus was elsewhere. Besides the parallel between covid and AIDS, what are you implying?

    That's a really fucking aggressive way to ask that question!

    Its a really aggressive question to ask!

    Its a big fucking planet, we are posting from multiple countries, and Ronald Reagan, despite what the GOP wants to believe, was not the important thing in world history.

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Reagan and Trump are basically the same guy. Trump just says a lot of the quiet parts louder than Reagan did. Reagan was pretty loud about it too, just so happens he was saying that shit in a general din of shit so it was harder to hear just him. Also Reagan was just slightly more well spoken, mostly because he was an actual actor rather than being reality TV famous for being an asshole.

    Sleep on
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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    I highly recommend everyone listen to the 3 part dollop on Reagan, even if you've fallen off the dollop they have Patton Oswalt on who does a really good job of being funny without beating a joke to death like Garreth tends to.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    There's a four part documentary series coming out or just come out that I'm interested in checking out as well, called The Reagans. I guess because I like being angry.

    Anyway Reagan was a self-aggrandizing racist celebrity who got into politics by peddling in racist dog whistles like the myth of the welfare queen which he essentially made mainstream, stoked fears amongst white voters that they were working hard and undeserving (non-white) people were benefiting, villified social safety nets because the guy on food stamps was buying t-bone steaks, presided over the very beginning of the modern massive upward redistribution of wealth that has continued since, he was also the start of the Republican party pandering to religious anti-sciencr fundies.

    Oh yeah and then also AIDs

    That's not even to get into his foreign policy, but like literally every president has made the world a worse place so that's not unique.

    EDIT: Oh yeah on another somewhat funny but ultimately tertiary note, MAGA was originally Reagan

    Maddoc on
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    DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Nixon holds the original sin of the modern GOP because of the Southern Strategy, but there is a direct line from Reagan to Trump.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited November 2020
    Reagan just adopted it really well by going around to Southern states championing "states rights" and saying shit like "the south will rise again"

    He was really good at speaking to racists

    Maddoc on
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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Nixon holds the original sin of the modern GOP because of the Southern Strategy, but there is a direct line from Reagan to Trump.

    Also the desire to make sure that what happened to Nixon (consequences... sort of) never happened again to any Republican ever.

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    RedTideRedTide Registered User regular
    Trump walked up to a podium and called Mexicans rapists to announce his candidacy.

    Reagan walked up to a podium and gave some pablum about states rights and the feds sucking to announce his candidacy.

    Reagan's podium was in Philadelphia Mississippi

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Doodmann wrote: »
    Nixon holds the original sin of the modern GOP because of the Southern Strategy, but there is a direct line from Reagan to Trump.

    Nixon was a GOP attack dog in the era when the Republicans accused Democrats of being traitors and communists, and he was smart enough to see that there was more fuel in racism than anti-communism so pivoted the party in that direction. Not that the two weren't connected - civil rights activists were accused of being communists on the regular so the pivot was already built into the party's propaganda.

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    burboburbo Registered User regular
    Reagan was also president while suffering from fairly advanced dementia, right? I don't know if Trump has dementia, but it makes the sort of cognitive verbal capacity end up feeling somewhat similar.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Reagan could not differentiate between his real life and roles he played in movies by the end of his first term, and it's honestly fucked up that they kept riding him along in that state. Especially Nancy.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    RedTide wrote: »
    Trump walked up to a podium and called Mexicans rapists to announce his candidacy.

    Reagan walked up to a podium and gave some pablum about states rights and the feds sucking to announce his candidacy.

    Reagan's podium was in Philadelphia Mississippi

    Reagan came up in an era where the president was supposed to be above the fray, so he moderated a lot of his language from when he was governor. There's a reason why some of the worst actors of the Trump Administration like William Barr served under Reagan - his administration was a cesspit covered by Reagan's smiling "Aw shucks" demeanor.

    Trump just got rid of the fig leaf of the impartial president, but his policies aren't particularly different than any other GOP administration.

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    burbo wrote: »
    Reagan was also president while suffering from fairly advanced dementia, right? I don't know if Trump has dementia, but it makes the sort of cognitive verbal capacity end up feeling somewhat similar.

    yes, and he'd surrounded himself by competent longtime party apparatchiks so it was generally still a fairly effective administration, in the sense that they accomplished things they wanted to

    whereas trump's administration has had a really hard time actually doing anything, because he hired a bunch of grifting kleptocrats who are too busy jockeying for favor and cutting throats to rule

    meanwhile betsy devos is a neoreactionary dominionist lunatic which means she's been getting shit done

    Shorty on
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    Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
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    before he got into politics proper he also enthusiastically ratted out a lot of his actor colleagues for being socialists

    the near certainty that ronald fuckin' reagan would be there would almost make the existence of hell worth it, he's one of the worst people this country has ever produced

    from each according to his ability, to each according to his need
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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2020
    There was something with Truthiness or something during the Dubya administration, the USA invaded Iraq on an obvious lie, the Daily Show got a lot of laughs about it

    Yeah, but his point is that the media wasn't nearly as fractured and captured by bullshit like Sinclair as it is now.

    Fencingsax on
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