I'm putting zero points in the hacking stat (Int?) because hacking in real time confuses and frightens me
I love hacking
I just got this hack that
let's me make someone unconscious from far away without triggering enemy aggression.
makes it so if there is a pair of enemies, I can hack one and then takedown the other with stealth
I have a hack that's similar
I literally blow their head off with a sniper rifle
but then you can't stealth the rest of the area
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
it is kind of silly how sniping while sneaking means nobody notices the person 15ft away picking everyone off one by one with an extremely loud rifle as long as you are behind cover
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
Committing to a build is crucial, otherwise there is no point to builds. But "committing" doesn't mean for the whole game, or for a really long time, or without the means to adjust at all. It means you have to design your game around X amount of time committed to the build, and that amount can vary.
A game where you can go into your menu and respec completely, any time, even mid-battle, would be terrible. It would be even worse if that were optimal play and required to beat fights! Nobody wants that (I hope). Opening menus during combat is disgusting.
But being able respec completely after every encounter is a bit too much, too. Some games can make it work, surely, but being able to just tweak your build after every fight is very common and seems fun. Committing to your build for a series of fights or a short run (30 m to 1 h) seems like a common sweet spot, as does committing for many hours but allowing major respecs for a high cost, and having a high floor for effectiveness (e.g. if your skill with the core mechanics is more important than your build)
Committing to a build is crucial, otherwise there is no point to builds. But "committing" doesn't mean for the whole game, or for a really long time, or without the means to adjust at all. It means you have to design your game around X amount of time committed to the build, and that amount can vary.
A game where you can go into your menu and respec completely, any time, even mid-battle, would be terrible. It would be even worse if that were optimal play and required to beat fights! Nobody wants that (I hope). Opening menus during combat is disgusting.
But being able respec completely after every encounter is a bit too much, too. Some games can make it work, surely, but being able to just tweak your build after every fight is very common and seems fun. Committing to your build for a series of fights or a short run (30 m to 1 h) seems like a common sweet spot, as does committing for many hours but allowing major respecs for a high cost, and having a high floor for effectiveness (e.g. if your skill with the core mechanics is more important than your build)
I think this is why D3 got stale for me relatively quickly
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My gf who is changing jobs with a January 1st switchover date is getting advance-monthly-pay from the new place and after-the-fact-pay from the old place.
So she got two monthly salaries today.
I’ve gone over it in my head and I can’t see how this isn’t just free money. It will only be a hassle when she changes jobs again sometime in the future but that’s probably years away.
If you can respec after every battle, but it's costly (or you're rewarded for sticking to a build), that can work. I think players are okay with paying some resources if they don't feel trapped by decisions they don't like.
What's also important to me is that choices not be marginal. I don't ever want a perk that's like +3% damage. That's one thing I'm not a big fan of in Hades, but that's okay because so many other options are like "your cast is a giant explosion or a laser" or "your gun shoots rockets now" or "your sword does vampire murders" and those are great.
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jungleroomxIt's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovelsRegistered Userregular
I'm putting zero points in the hacking stat (Int?) because hacking in real time confuses and frightens me
I love hacking
I just got this hack that
let's me make someone unconscious from far away without triggering enemy aggression.
makes it so if there is a pair of enemies, I can hack one and then takedown the other with stealth
I have a hack that's similar
I literally blow their head off with a sniper rifle
but then you can't stealth the rest of the area
I have sometimes killed them faster than they can aggro.
If you do it from across the street and nobody's looking at each other, it's really easy to just pop em like grapes.
oh, hmmm
I thought they aggroed.
I think I only tried it once and it didn't work so I've only ever knocked people unconscious by hand
If you're within range to hear the shot (I think it's within the radar, upper right corner) they aggro.
If you're on the roof across the street and they don't see it happen, you can sometimes just pick em off without a fuss
One time I had a revolver with a silencer and thought that I could kill a guy next to another guy that was faced the other way. It did not work and he noticed.
I feel like I need to play around with how it works to get a better idea.
but now with my new hack, it is much easier.
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Nova_CI have the needThe need for speedRegistered Userregular
DRG works by making the respec possible through a terminal in what amounts to the game lobby.
I think UI design is too dependent on arbitrary windows. Make stuff like that fit in with the game world design.
The DRG 'respec' is basically changing your loadout for missions.
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No respec but eventually unlock everything anyway > no respec > respec allowed > D3 specifically
If you can respec after every battle, but it's costly (or you're rewarded for sticking to a build), that can work. I think players are okay with paying some resources if they don't feel trapped by decisions they don't like.
What's also important to me is that choices not be marginal. I don't ever want a perk that's like +3% damage. That's one thing I'm not a big fan of in Hades, but that's okay because so many other options are like "your cast is a giant explosion or a laser" or "your gun shoots rockets now" or "your sword does vampire murders" and those are great.
I think PoE's skill tree is literally the best skill tree ever made, once you get your head around it.
Everything kind of works. All the stats exist in their third of the tree and each "inbetween" area has inbetweener stats. Like Int is associated with Lightning damage, Int/Dex is chaos and poison, Dex is poison, Dex/Str is bleed, Str is fire, Int/Str is cold. Sometimes these exist out of order, like cold damage for bows since bows are Dex, but there's always a reason.
So it all naturally flows on this tree that once you realize what they've done with it, and how it's all a really cohesive system, you can't help but feel all the other skill trees out there are lacking, even if they aren't an insane amount of skill nodes.
I'm putting zero points in the hacking stat (Int?) because hacking in real time confuses and frightens me
I love hacking
I just got this hack that
let's me make someone unconscious from far away without triggering enemy aggression.
makes it so if there is a pair of enemies, I can hack one and then takedown the other with stealth
I have a hack that's similar
I literally blow their head off with a sniper rifle
but then you can't stealth the rest of the area
I have sometimes killed them faster than they can aggro.
If you do it from across the street and nobody's looking at each other, it's really easy to just pop em like grapes.
oh, hmmm
I thought they aggroed.
I think I only tried it once and it didn't work so I've only ever knocked people unconscious by hand
If you're within range to hear the shot (I think it's within the radar, upper right corner) they aggro.
If you're on the roof across the street and they don't see it happen, you can sometimes just pick em off without a fuss
One time I had a revolver with a silencer and thought that I could kill a guy next to another guy that was faced the other way. It did not work and he noticed.
I feel like I need to play around with how it works to get a better idea.
but now with my new hack, it is much easier.
they notice bodies and will start looking for you, but you can stay hidden if you're behind cover or far enough away
I'm putting zero points in the hacking stat (Int?) because hacking in real time confuses and frightens me
I love hacking
I just got this hack that
let's me make someone unconscious from far away without triggering enemy aggression.
makes it so if there is a pair of enemies, I can hack one and then takedown the other with stealth
I have a hack that's similar
I literally blow their head off with a sniper rifle
but then you can't stealth the rest of the area
I have sometimes killed them faster than they can aggro.
If you do it from across the street and nobody's looking at each other, it's really easy to just pop em like grapes.
oh, hmmm
I thought they aggroed.
I think I only tried it once and it didn't work so I've only ever knocked people unconscious by hand
If you're within range to hear the shot (I think it's within the radar, upper right corner) they aggro.
If you're on the roof across the street and they don't see it happen, you can sometimes just pick em off without a fuss
One time I had a revolver with a silencer and thought that I could kill a guy next to another guy that was faced the other way. It did not work and he noticed.
I feel like I need to play around with how it works to get a better idea.
but now with my new hack, it is much easier.
they notice bodies and will start looking for you, but you can stay hidden if you're behind cover or far enough away
no, but this guy noticed as soon as I headshot the other guy. Didn't give me a chance to sneak up at take him out
i did half my christmas shopping on Steam this year because i can't be arsed to try and get physical goods transported.
it was fun gifting a ton of games to people, it gave me some insight into how the steam thread leviathans must feel.
took me half an hour and i'm done and hahahahaha, fuck you Christmas, only one panic attack this year! a new record!
I actually really like D3 respeccing in its current state.
The basic idea of limited skills (6) + 1 modifier per skill (which enlarges the total space but keeps buttons manageable) + most Legendary items modify a skill works really well to encourage varied builds.
Respeccing whenever is possible, outside of Greater Rifts, but in reality you don't do it that much unless an upgrade dropped that changes your build (or at high end meta, you take on a specific role, like amplifying another players damage in 4mans)
The downside is that the set builds are completely overpowering, only rivalled with very occasional LoN builds (which are generally for the most hardcore, you need extra rare legendaries to make it work). This shrinks the build space right back down to about 10 builds per class that are somewhat viable (Which in D3 is "within about a 10x factor of the best build") with usually 1-3 on top.
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I have a hack that's similar
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I have sometimes killed them faster than they can aggro.
If you do it from across the street and nobody's looking at each other, it's really easy to just pop em like grapes.
I have a stealth solution to that actually
A game where you can go into your menu and respec completely, any time, even mid-battle, would be terrible. It would be even worse if that were optimal play and required to beat fights! Nobody wants that (I hope). Opening menus during combat is disgusting.
But being able respec completely after every encounter is a bit too much, too. Some games can make it work, surely, but being able to just tweak your build after every fight is very common and seems fun. Committing to your build for a series of fights or a short run (30 m to 1 h) seems like a common sweet spot, as does committing for many hours but allowing major respecs for a high cost, and having a high floor for effectiveness (e.g. if your skill with the core mechanics is more important than your build)
It is hard to do that from miles away through walls even with like tech weapons.
I think this is why D3 got stale for me relatively quickly
So she got two monthly salaries today.
I’ve gone over it in my head and I can’t see how this isn’t just free money. It will only be a hassle when she changes jobs again sometime in the future but that’s probably years away.
oh, hmmm
I thought they aggroed.
I think I only tried it once and it didn't work so I've only ever knocked people unconscious by hand
I actively enjoy the combat mechanics, so having a click to win sounds like a playstyle I'd just rather not do
If you're within range to hear the shot (I think it's within the radar, upper right corner) they aggro.
If you're on the roof across the street and they don't see it happen, you can sometimes just pick em off without a fuss
What's also important to me is that choices not be marginal. I don't ever want a perk that's like +3% damage. That's one thing I'm not a big fan of in Hades, but that's okay because so many other options are like "your cast is a giant explosion or a laser" or "your gun shoots rockets now" or "your sword does vampire murders" and those are great.
The cops and MaxTac are there to prevent GTA style civilian mass slaughters, so it makes sense.
One time I had a revolver with a silencer and thought that I could kill a guy next to another guy that was faced the other way. It did not work and he noticed.
I feel like I need to play around with how it works to get a better idea.
but now with my new hack, it is much easier.
I think UI design is too dependent on arbitrary windows. Make stuff like that fit in with the game world design.
The DRG 'respec' is basically changing your loadout for missions.
Overclocks changing how the various weapon skills are valued is also really neat.
I think PoE's skill tree is literally the best skill tree ever made, once you get your head around it.
Everything kind of works. All the stats exist in their third of the tree and each "inbetween" area has inbetweener stats. Like Int is associated with Lightning damage, Int/Dex is chaos and poison, Dex is poison, Dex/Str is bleed, Str is fire, Int/Str is cold. Sometimes these exist out of order, like cold damage for bows since bows are Dex, but there's always a reason.
So it all naturally flows on this tree that once you realize what they've done with it, and how it's all a really cohesive system, you can't help but feel all the other skill trees out there are lacking, even if they aren't an insane amount of skill nodes.
they notice bodies and will start looking for you, but you can stay hidden if you're behind cover or far enough away
*johnny (sic?) carson envelope to the head* Chanus to make the new thread, and Chanus for the backup.
whoever wants it can have it if i get it
I punched a guy so hard he backflipped and smashed a concrete divider
I might have to install a threat analysis mod or something so I don't end up fistfucking a non-lethal quest at some point
i don't get no respec
no, but this guy noticed as soon as I headshot the other guy. Didn't give me a chance to sneak up at take him out
it was fun gifting a ton of games to people, it gave me some insight into how the steam thread leviathans must feel.
took me half an hour and i'm done and hahahahaha, fuck you Christmas, only one panic attack this year! a new record!
The basic idea of limited skills (6) + 1 modifier per skill (which enlarges the total space but keeps buttons manageable) + most Legendary items modify a skill works really well to encourage varied builds.
Respeccing whenever is possible, outside of Greater Rifts, but in reality you don't do it that much unless an upgrade dropped that changes your build (or at high end meta, you take on a specific role, like amplifying another players damage in 4mans)
The downside is that the set builds are completely overpowering, only rivalled with very occasional LoN builds (which are generally for the most hardcore, you need extra rare legendaries to make it work). This shrinks the build space right back down to about 10 builds per class that are somewhat viable (Which in D3 is "within about a 10x factor of the best build") with usually 1-3 on top.