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Penny Arcade - Comic - Shot Caller, Brawler
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Penny Arcade - Comic - Shot Caller, Brawler
Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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If we wait long enough, we will be the olds and finally receive our vax.
Huh
We either wait 'til were olds, or just olds enough.
My parents have been vaccinated (yey) and I will need to look into it soon enough. I'm almost Tycho olds, but not quite yet.
I got the Pfizer, and I literally didn't even feel that needle go in. I think it must have went in just the right spot to miss any nerves.
Maybe my body is just greedy and doesn't like anyone taking its stuff.
Same. I think I just instinctively have an issue seeing blood leaving my body like that.
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That's why you need to bring your blood cup.
"Just put it in here when your done."
I gave blood once in college and I was doing fine until they took the sample for testing, when I made the mistake of looking down and seeing it fill the container, at which point I threw up. A lot. Then passed out a couple times.
Yearly blood draws are what got me over the fear of big needles.
Watching the blood doesn't bother me as much. I actually find it interesting.
Have you tried a blindfold?
Bugs used to freak me out as a kid, but somewhere along the way I stopped being bothered so much. Now I follow this forums entomology-related threads out of interest in nature. I still find centipedes creepy, but I've learned to just look the other way because they hoover up lots of more troublesome pests.
Pretty much every adult in my family has gotten a shot, but most of us are still waiting for round two, except my brother who was lucky enough to got the one-dose J&J vaccine. My dad & I got Moderna, and didn't suffer any side effects, but the ones who got Pfizer had some mild sickness for a day or two after. I did have a weird delayed-reaction to the shot where I had a bruise that didn't really show for a few days, then a week after the injection the bicep below that shoulder became really sore & stiff for about a day and a half.
The majority of these people should be retired. They should be prime candidates for staying at home. They were probably doing a lot of that BEFORE the quarantines started. It's something that the majority probably even PLANNED to do a lot of in this period of their lives. So why are we giving all those vaccines to them, when there are people out there, other high risk people, who do not have retirement funds to allow them to spend time at home? It boggles the mind. There are people who must work to survive, who have to put themselves outside, every day, and come into contact with people, no matter how much they might want to quarantine themselves.
Stuff sucks for everyone, but I do wonder about the logic of vaccinating people who, as a group, should be the ones who are the most capable of isolating themselves. Front facing workers with high risk factors should have been group 1, not group 2 or 3. The grocery store clerk who stays asymptomatic for a week is more likely to spread covid than grandma sitting at home, doing her knitting. And I hope people can see that I'm not trying to be ageist here, this stuff just doesn't check out from a logical standpoint. Maybe it would make more sense if the old people in question were people in retirement homes, who are in exposed communities where covid has ravaged and killed huge populations. But not just anyone who's elderly. THAT I would get.
By prioritizing older people, you drastically reduce Covid-19 deaths.
Though he doesn't seem to have qualms with the giant spider boss from Devil May Cry.
And as far as people with the power of spiders go...
Hmm... Gabe seems to have a long, complicated relationship with spiders.
Real talk, after getting my first shot, my shoulder felt a little heavy the day after, but only for a few hours. As of now, my second one's due in like, a week. This might be a little tasteless, but after getting my first shot, I joked "Gee, I hope this doesn't make me autistic- Oh, wait!" Full disclosure, I have Asperger's, so it was more of a "It's okay for us to make those jokes" sort of thing, though I don't support shit like using autism as an insult or whatever.
To my understanding, (so apply many grains of salt), ultimately in most cases getting the vaccine is not going to appreciably impact your personal safety. But as a society we need as many people to take it as possibly can so we can eliminate the threat of the virus as a whole. So what really matters for the health of grandma and the grocer is for us all to get it in a timely manner. But the average person cannot be convinced to even mildly inconvenience themselves for a generic good of us all: they need to think it's going to immediately and measurably make their life better. That, I think, is the thinking behind things like vaccine passports: just to provide an incentive to do the right thing even though your block party is probably not any safer because you got the vaccine. The problem is that people feel like they are getting mixed signals because the politicians say "get a vaccine so you can get back to normal" and the health professionals say "get the vaccine but keep your mask and social distance".
All that to say I don't know that it hugely matters who gets it first, so we give it to the olds on the off chance that some of them are prevented from lethal cases due to having the vaccine.
I think it changes over time. At first, you're a loooooong way from herd immunity so you're really mainly protecting the people who would have a really bad case if they got it. Hence the vulnerable getting the first vaccines. After that, you're just trying to get herd immunity so yeah, makes more sense to vax those who mingle more.
We're now far along enough to see the effects of different vaccination strategies in different areas. Italy went the way of prioritizing public facing workers over the elderly and has had a much higher death toll since the start of their vaccinations than other countries. Government officials have expressed regret at their approach. While prioritizing public facing workers does have a logic behind it, in practice it didn't end up working so well. There are a lot of factors involved as well as even between states in on country the day to day life of the elderly and young can greatly vary but Italy is a big data point on how an approach that doesn't prioritize the elderly can turn out.
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The majority of these people should be retired. They should be prime candidates for staying at home. They were probably doing a lot of that BEFORE the quarantines started. It's something that the majority probably even PLANNED to do a lot of in this period of their lives. So why are we giving all those vaccines to them, when there are people out there, other high risk people, who do not have retirement funds to allow them to spend time at home? It boggles the mind. There are people who must work to survive, who have to put themselves outside, every day, and come into contact with people, no matter how much they might want to quarantine themselves.
Stuff sucks for everyone, but I do wonder about the logic of vaccinating people who, as a group, should be the ones who are the most capable of isolating themselves. Front facing workers with high risk factors should have been group 1, not group 2 or 3. The grocery store clerk who stays asymptomatic for a week is more likely to spread covid than grandma sitting at home, doing her knitting. And I hope people can see that I'm not trying to be ageist here, this stuff just doesn't check out from a logical standpoint. Maybe it would make more sense if the old people in question were people in retirement homes, who are in exposed communities where covid has ravaged and killed huge populations. But not just anyone who's elderly. THAT I would get."
Because people under 70 have 99.7% chance to recover on their own. As long as they don't have High Blood Pressure, Obesity, or immune deficiency.
Your quote error had me really questioning my sanity.
also it's not like retirees are all shut ins, or don't have basically the same need to go out to get food/necessities/medical care/etc that we all do
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat