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Learn the language of dead stars and unseat the thrones of heaven: [Fallen London] thread

Indie WinterIndie Winter die KräheRudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
edited April 2021 in Games and Technology
Fallen London is a free to play browser game from Failbetter Games. The premise is simple: the year is 1899, and 40 years ago, London was stolen by bats.

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Though no one says "stolen" anymore, except for the revolutionaries. The rest of the residents have grown quite accustomed to the situation. Now London is ruled by the mysterious Masters of the Echo Bazaar, and is full of devils dressed like gangsters, talking cats, Clay Men (don't ask if they're actually made of clay; they don't ask you if you're made of meat), poets, murderers, monster-hunters and worse roaming the gloomy streets.

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Most games use various baubles in their reward loops to keep players coming. Fallen London uses words. It has more words than War and Peace, with stories, plots, characters and narratives going back and forth between political intrigue, elder things from beyond the skies, real world historical events, multi-continental mythologies, colors that don't actually exist, and romance. You develop your character in whatever way you see fit - they can be agile or clever or persuasive or hulking or all or none. They can make important decisions unique to them and terrible mistakes delving into forbidden mysteries the rest of the playerbase has no idea about. They can join the player-vs-player leagues of Knife and Candle and stab their friends in their back. They can take part in a high stakes game of chance who's winner gets their hearts desire or go after the murderer of a loved one or steal a diamond the size of a cow. They can be you.

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Over the last year, Fallen London have given player the opportunity to build their own railway into the hinterlands - the country west of the city where you might find things like mushroom farms, artistic communes, the old battlefield between London and Hell, a scottish castle overrun by anarchists, a factory where emotions are distilled into bottles and sold to european governments to quiet dissent, and more.

Just two days ago, they have unlocked the latest station: The Hurlers, a frigid wasteland where even the Devils don't visit, where only goat-demons lurk, and where a castle most definitely does not exist. And I can't go into too much detail beyond this but it very likely contains some of the most hard to grasp, philosophically complex concepts I've ever seen a video game try to tackle.

and in a few days the... festival? of Whitesun will be upon us, and you know what that means

Egg Hunt

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Ya'll,

Ya'll,

Fallen London is very good

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  • WotanAnubisWotanAnubis Registered User regular
    Also, the Fallen London setting has two spin-off games that have more gameplay. And also a lot of words still.

    The most recent, Sunless Skies, is apparently getting a console release soon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt53AjVo26U

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Hmm the railway sounds interesting. Tell me how much of that irritating social reputation thing do you need to farm to do that chain?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    Absolutely squat, they've almost completely abandoned that grind after they realized what a hassle it is. They've even separated it from raising your stats above 200!

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Well I logged back in.

    Couldn't remember where I was, it has been so long since I have played.

    I was in the Cave of the Nadir

    Of course.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited April 2021
    Well I mean, of course you wouldn't remember

    edit: also the latest Exceptional Story for April just dropped; it's about diving beneath the surface of the colossal underground ocean known as the Unterzee (the faux-german is just a nautical thing in Fallen London, don't ask) to reach the Gant Pole where ancient chthonic leviathans go to die

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    I gather the journey to the North/the eaten name was almost entirely the brain child of the guy who was booted for being a super abuser. So all of that may go in a different direction.

    I just really want to know what people who opened the final gate read.

    What is this I don't even.
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Yeah I made an alt to actually go north and read through it, but they put that awful reputation grind in there too and so I never made it.

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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    I Went North and pseudo let's played it in the old FL thread

    I ate an engineer
  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Reputation grind's tough, but they've rebalanced it I think. You should check the guide on the wiki and see if it's still as much of a hassle

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Where might one find said train story?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    it's a card, requires Person of Some Importance specialisation and Persuasive above 175. look for one called "Advertisements of a New Venture"

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Wow there is a ton of new content. I still haven't seen that card, but I have been having fun with the laboratory in the university, and now I'm off in my parabolan base camp. Too bad I gave up Glassman profession years ago after I decided that they were never going to actually deliver that content. Was the old CEO holding all this content for non-exceptional friends? Seems like there is a ton of new stuff.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    No no, this is brand spanking new stuff available to everyone, exceptional friends only get the extra story per month and the added actions

    mind you some of those exceptional stories are the best thing in the game. Off the top of my head: the recent Fair Unknown about a jousting tournament in the land of dreams, The Shallows about doing Death a favour in order to interview dead murder victims, Fine Dining where you have to prepare the best meal you can for after a chef fell mysteriously ill for a food critic who's also a tiger, and HOJOTOHO about a gang of urchins inspired to do good by valkyrien operas contending with a mysterious kidnapper on the city's rooftops

    and yeah they went hard on new content this past year, the whole lab is fresh, Whitsun is brand new and they keep updating the Mayoral race, halloween and valentines day each year with new stuff too

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Ah, I misunderstood. I never upgraded person of some importance and now I forget where to do it. Does upgrading your person of some importance still lock (heavily discourage) you out of the nadir? That's the reason I never upgraded it. Also how do you do that?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    nah, the nadir's also been rebalanced to be much more tolerable. I recommend checking the wiki (the new one that ends in .wiki, not the old fandom.com one) for some updated PoSI guides to get you going

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    haha I've been playing since 2009. Welcome, delicious friends.

    If you wish to become friends in the actual game, I am also lucid_seraph there.

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    have you finished the new Hurlers content yet? Because I have been dying to talk to someone about all the delicious Lore Implications

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    I think I forgot most of the lore. What is red science again?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    well before I get into that, what do you know about The Correspondence, Judgements, and the Great Chain

    cause I dont wanna spoil stuff on accident; if you just get into FL on the premise of "kooky gothic victorian setting" the shit the lore goes to gets wild

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    From what I recall
    Judgements are stars, The Correspondence is their language, and the great chain is basically stay in your lane, if you are some kind of space crab you don't get to fall in love with the sun?
    Honey is made by devils who are bees for some reason? Red honey is other people's memories instead of a drug? And red science is some kind of attempt to escape the great chain or something?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Well the Red Science is
    a way to reforge links in the chain, challenge the order of the hierarchy but not the hierarchy itself; stuff like that is relegated to the Liberation of Night and the Discordance

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    have you finished the new Hurlers content yet? Because I have been dying to talk to someone about all the delicious Lore Implications

    No; I was on a 7 year hiatus until like... last November or so? And I've only gotten as far as Balmoral.

    Incidentally, I also accidentally nuked ALL my Connected because I left RIGHT before the Connected => Renown changeover, so I went from like 40 connected with everybody to 0 Renown, and I'm pissed lol. Especially since it's now way more expensive and time consuming to raise that shit.

  • bettjonesbettjones LARegistered User new member
    Wow! I just sat down to try it and played it all day! it is very exciting. And the atmosphere of the game is amazing!

    I always find payday loans with good conditions on https://cashloansnearby.com/texas/waxahachie/. Come in too.
  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    bettjones wrote: »
    Wow! I just sat down to try it and played it all day! it is very exciting. And the atmosphere of the game is amazing!

    *delicious*

    If you need a mentor or someone to yell at you by mail for whatever reason, again, I am:

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/lucid_seraph/

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    I need someone to yell at me by mail or just send me a small fraction of the thousands of making waves I appear to need.
    Same name.

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I need someone to yell at me by mail or just send me a small fraction of the thousands of making waves I appear to need.
    Same name.

    /throws burning letters in your general direction

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    A lot of menace? Yes, well they said they wanted to buy something menacing at the bone market and I misunderstood...

    edit: I'm not sure I'd trust you with today's youth. Ouch.
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Hmm the railway sounds interesting. Tell me how much of that irritating social reputation thing do you need to farm to do that chain?

    Seven or five points of notability.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Railway venture: looking for a big dupe with deep pockets to do everything except laying the actual track. Will provide: a board who are mostly opposed to running a railway venture.

    Ooh looks like the new content is expanding the Zee! I always liked the Zee. Time to break out the yacht.

    https://www.failbettergames.com/approaching-the-end-of-the-railway-and-what-comes-next/

    And it looks like I was correct about the content, they state about 30% of fallen london happened last year on a text basis.

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    Listen, @38thDoe , do you REALLY want all this combustible post from me

    I don't do things by half-measures.

    *edit* Also I could use some combustible post back, if you have the ability to send such.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2021
    I'm not sure how to do it, but I can try. Everything seems to be terribly expensive and I had to hock a bunch of junk lately. I got my lab up to 7 though, and I may be able to actually lay track by the time that the railroad is finished lol. What is my best way to get the components of it?

    Also how bad is it to just sell trade secrets? I know that they turn into a ton of money for 10 actions but I don't want to spend a week burning them.

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I'm not sure how to do it, but I can try. Everything seems to be terribly expensive and I had to hock a bunch of junk lately. I got my lab up to 7 though, and I may be able to actually lay track by the time that the railroad is finished lol. What is my best way to get the components of it?

    Also how bad is it to just sell trade secrets? I know that they turn into a ton of money for 10 actions but I don't want to spend a week burning them.

    Idk about trade secrets. re: Railroad, there's a new option at the Blind Helmsman where you can just fucking deck people for Justificande Coins & Bessmer Steel which you need for Railway Steel. Also, work on establishing a Parabolan Base Camp (for things like Hillmovers, additional Railway Steel, & other crap)

    The really fucked up part is that you need to use the fucking Bone Market for a lot of shit and the Bone Market is the worst. Like everything bad about Fallen London (so much action gating! so much high end stat gating! a randomizer! too many options! FUCK)

    Incidentally, the new Wiki is here: https://fallenlondon.wiki/wiki/ Now with 500% less malware infested ads.

    The Discord is also very VERY helpful.

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    I feel like starting my early Sunless Skies campaign over because my I got lost and died with three Verdant Seeds and the next ship can't afford the same purchase.

    I don't like feeling perpetually poor.

    EDIT - I changed provisions to Provident so I can enjoy the game more.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    I'm not sure how to do it, but I can try. Everything seems to be terribly expensive and I had to hock a bunch of junk lately. I got my lab up to 7 though, and I may be able to actually lay track by the time that the railroad is finished lol. What is my best way to get the components of it?

    Also how bad is it to just sell trade secrets? I know that they turn into a ton of money for 10 actions but I don't want to spend a week burning them.

    Idk about trade secrets. re: Railroad, there's a new option at the Blind Helmsman where you can just fucking deck people for Justificande Coins & Bessmer Steel which you need for Railway Steel. Also, work on establishing a Parabolan Base Camp (for things like Hillmovers, additional Railway Steel, & other crap)

    The really fucked up part is that you need to use the fucking Bone Market for a lot of shit and the Bone Market is the worst. Like everything bad about Fallen London (so much action gating! so much high end stat gating! a randomizer! too many options! FUCK)

    Incidentally, the new Wiki is here: https://fallenlondon.wiki/wiki/ Now with 500% less malware infested ads.

    The Discord is also very VERY helpful.

    So am I reading this correctly that you can only easily get skulls buy buying the brass skulls at the start?

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited May 2021
    If you've got an aurochs from whitsun or a hyena from the labyrinth of tigers, a bone replicator from lab research and an upgraded butcher at ealing gardens you can whip out skulls there real quick

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    I have both the creatures but neither of the other parts. Bone replicator sounds fun though.

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Gang this latest Exceptional Story was fucking bonkers

    who'd have thought
    We'd get to meet a new member of the Royal Family?
    And one who's supposed to be dead, no less!

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    I need... approximately 943 more Final Breaths.

    This is so I can obtain enough Mortifications of a Great Power that I can create an impressive enough Cover Identity to convince some Devils to sell me a *second* Reported Location of a One-Time Prince of Hell.

    This is because, though it is *technically* unnecessary, I feel the need to give Virginia her due, before I go off to *fucking trounce* (warning: Ambition Heart's Desire spoilers
    Gregory Beechwood

    in the final Marvellous Match.
    No. I'm not letting him win. Fuck him. He's salty that he got EXACTLY what he asked for and it turned out he was fucking wrong.

    I. Want. More. Life.

    And no, not the parody of life that becoming a Curator would be. In truth, the "time" they offer will be paltry compared to my true ambitions.

    But I have heard that Storm's kin consume Time itself as sustenance. And I have heard what the Thunder said. And I will embrace the Storm. I will sing with the wind. I will dance in the rain.

    And to do that? I need more life.

    And to the Dragons, Time is Life.

    I choose Time.


    (sorry, the latter part is pure headcanon, but being able to have that kind of headcanon is what I love about this game

  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    a second Reported Location of a One-Time Prince of Hell?

    please

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  • Lucid_SeraphLucid_Seraph TealDeer MarylandRegistered User regular
    a second Reported Location of a One-Time Prince of Hell?

    please

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    you're insane! just fyi!

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Well I finally caught the honey mazed bear. Was not happy to jump into parabola and realize I needed 22 more hunts in order to even start the bear.
    Now to convince the railway board to extend the track along the only possible route which they will be against because they hate trains.

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