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Can't imagine it's the same convention that gave us your Wheelers or Millers or whatnot. Maybe it was aspirational? Somebody just calling their shot and pointing way out past the bleachers
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QuetziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderatormod
Can't imagine it's the same convention that gave us your Wheelers or Millers or whatnot. Maybe it was aspirational? Somebody just calling their shot and pointing way out past the bleachers
It looks like the answer is sort of.
First off, it's an old (English) word and you could conceivably have people with it as a surname that is sort of tied back to its root as cyning (which still means leader, but doesn't have some of the scale implications of king).
But then after that yeah, you're looking at people who get nicknamed king for one reason or another. Aspirational is probably part of that, there's probably some making fun of your haughty neighbor. There might be some local culture/politics thrown in there too - the person who plays the king in the mummers play every year, the person who is in charge of some minor office or another, that sort of thing.
Can't imagine it's the same convention that gave us your Wheelers or Millers or whatnot. Maybe it was aspirational? Somebody just calling their shot and pointing way out past the bleachers
It looks like the answer is sort of.
First off, it's an old (English) word and you could conceivably have people with it as a surname that is sort of tied back to its root as cyning (which still means leader, but doesn't have some of the scale implications of king).
But then after that yeah, you're looking at people who get nicknamed king for one reason or another. Aspirational is probably part of that, there's probably some making fun of your haughty neighbor. There might be some local culture/politics thrown in there too - the person who plays the king in the mummers play every year, the person who is in charge of some minor office or another, that sort of thing.
Oh man, I wish I could give somebody an insulting nickname with such sticking power that it becomes their surname
It'll suck for Tyler Clownshoes, but I'll get a kick out of it
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QuetziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User, Moderatormod
Listen my last name means fingerless gloves so I'm worried I might have that exact story somewhere in my family history.
But we do actually see that not uncommonly - probably because we have a number of instances when people weren't recording their own names. The famous recently discovered example is Roger Fuckebythenavel, attested in legal documents in the early 1300s (and also possibly our first use of the word fuck), but there's also stuff like Gadling (a gossip) or Fogarty (an outlaw) that we still see today.
Or, of course, you could simply spend a little bit of time and consider what the name Shakespeare might refer to.
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edited May 2021
my surname is a result of assholes
see the ol' Austro-Hungarian empire decided they're gonna do a census, right
well super, and in the census every citizen has a name and a surname; makes sense, you'd think
except, not really. surnames weren't necessarily common then. yeah sure in vienna you had jurgen smyth or whatever but in villages, especially jewish villages, there really wasn't any need - you were X son of Y, or A daughter of B.
well this didn't sit well with the fastidious austro-hungarians; after all, "son of" doesn't really allow you to trace a nice accurate orderly linage and analyze demographic distributions across multiple regions
so they decided to assign surnames to people - whether they liked to have one or not
now, in urban areas, where Jews might have money and influence? or in places where whomever was in charge of the census wasn't a dick? fine, pick from the list
but if you fell on a casual anti-semite you couldn't bribe? well then so sorry, but all nice neutral names have already been taken, what a shame, guess you'll have to settle for whatever I give you, huh
and that's why my surname is based on the late 18th-early 19th century german spelling of the word Weasel
A quick Google search seems to indicate my last name is apparently Welsh with a redundant patronymic "s". It means, let's see here, "he who is incredible at sex and also has a sweet ass"
Wow haha that's so weirdly specific. Who'd have imagined.
I think the real meaning for my name is something like "of God" or "in the form of God" or something all up in God's butt like that. I guess the Welsh do be loving them some of the Christian God.
Which raises some more questions because as far as I am aware my dad's side of the family is primarily Irish? Or Irish adjacent. I personally think we came out of a stump somewhere in Tennessee like a dour, angry, dirt farming Lorax.
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The thing to take away from my surname is that we were a specialized form of carpenters who extremely stubbornly refused to change the spelling to match how the word is actually spelled.
I like to think I'm carrying forward with that tradition.
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Another Stephen King podcast, which I highly recommend, is the Kingcast
Their one-year anniversary episode is uploaded tomorrow and will include special guests (all but one, a mystery guest, have previously been on the show to talk Stephen King)! Bryan Fuller, Elijah Wood, Mike Flanagan included in the guest list!
They'll be discussing the Skeleton Crew short collection, which includes the The Mist story
I think the real meaning for my name is something like "of God" or "in the form of God" or something all up in God's butt like that. I guess the Welsh do be loving them some of the Christian God.
Which raises some more questions because as far as I am aware my dad's side of the family is primarily Irish? Or Irish adjacent. I personally think we came out of a stump somewhere in Tennessee like a dour, angry, dirt farming Lorax.
wales and ireland are a stones throw from each other I bet some seafaring welsh whatsit got all up in your ancestor's business at some point
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No, Mr Pond... I expect you to cast
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One of the hosts read a major briggs monologue and then a few sentences in slipped into doing a xehanort voice
it's pretty good
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They talk about things they like and things they hate.
They think Danse Macabre lacks cohesion and would get a failing grade in any English class.
Probably because of all the substance abuse.
And his bad opinions on things.
Maybe it's the headphones I'm using this morning are different than usual.
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Most I would say are more mixed, although even when they're being nice to him they make fun of all of his weird hangups too
Can't imagine it's the same convention that gave us your Wheelers or Millers or whatnot. Maybe it was aspirational? Somebody just calling their shot and pointing way out past the bleachers
It looks like the answer is sort of.
First off, it's an old (English) word and you could conceivably have people with it as a surname that is sort of tied back to its root as cyning (which still means leader, but doesn't have some of the scale implications of king).
But then after that yeah, you're looking at people who get nicknamed king for one reason or another. Aspirational is probably part of that, there's probably some making fun of your haughty neighbor. There might be some local culture/politics thrown in there too - the person who plays the king in the mummers play every year, the person who is in charge of some minor office or another, that sort of thing.
Oh man, I wish I could give somebody an insulting nickname with such sticking power that it becomes their surname
It'll suck for Tyler Clownshoes, but I'll get a kick out of it
But we do actually see that not uncommonly - probably because we have a number of instances when people weren't recording their own names. The famous recently discovered example is Roger Fuckebythenavel, attested in legal documents in the early 1300s (and also possibly our first use of the word fuck), but there's also stuff like Gadling (a gossip) or Fogarty (an outlaw) that we still see today.
Or, of course, you could simply spend a little bit of time and consider what the name Shakespeare might refer to.
its weirdly specific
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You'd think that but actually William the Conqueror was incredibly accident prone
A lot of people saved that motherfucker
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I feel like I've mentioned this before.
Aodh, who is apparently the ruler of the underworld in Irish myth?
I really need to read more Irish myth stuff
Also maybe try to learn a little of the language. It's a really beautiful language I think.
A town in Belgium I guess.
see the ol' Austro-Hungarian empire decided they're gonna do a census, right
well super, and in the census every citizen has a name and a surname; makes sense, you'd think
except, not really. surnames weren't necessarily common then. yeah sure in vienna you had jurgen smyth or whatever but in villages, especially jewish villages, there really wasn't any need - you were X son of Y, or A daughter of B.
well this didn't sit well with the fastidious austro-hungarians; after all, "son of" doesn't really allow you to trace a nice accurate orderly linage and analyze demographic distributions across multiple regions
so they decided to assign surnames to people - whether they liked to have one or not
now, in urban areas, where Jews might have money and influence? or in places where whomever was in charge of the census wasn't a dick? fine, pick from the list
but if you fell on a casual anti-semite you couldn't bribe? well then so sorry, but all nice neutral names have already been taken, what a shame, guess you'll have to settle for whatever I give you, huh
and that's why my surname is based on the late 18th-early 19th century german spelling of the word Weasel
Wow haha that's so weirdly specific. Who'd have imagined.
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Which raises some more questions because as far as I am aware my dad's side of the family is primarily Irish? Or Irish adjacent. I personally think we came out of a stump somewhere in Tennessee like a dour, angry, dirt farming Lorax.
I like to think I'm carrying forward with that tradition.
surnames
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... earth?
Their one-year anniversary episode is uploaded tomorrow and will include special guests (all but one, a mystery guest, have previously been on the show to talk Stephen King)! Bryan Fuller, Elijah Wood, Mike Flanagan included in the guest list!
They'll be discussing the Skeleton Crew short collection, which includes the The Mist story
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wales and ireland are a stones throw from each other I bet some seafaring welsh whatsit got all up in your ancestor's business at some point