[Metroid] Expecting Prime 4? TOO BAD PRIME 1 REMASTER TIME.

Endless_Serpents

*robotic bird noises*

Cameron_Talley

The robot looks like Glados and this is good.

Omg I’m so excited for this game!

Curly_Brace

Sakamoto is the Producer of Dread.

The Zombie Penguin

I really like the animation on that robot, nicely creepy

MNC Dover

From the pre-order page:

Samus’ story continues after the events of the Metroid™ Fusion game when she descends upon planet ZDR to investigate a mysterious transmission sent to the Galactic Federation. The remote planet has become overrun by vicious alien lifeforms and chilling mechanical menaces. Samus is more agile and capable than ever, but can she overcome the inhuman threat stalking the depths of ZDR?

Finally, a proper sequel to Fusion.

Kupi

The thing that stood out to me in the trailer was that Samus used the parry/melee attack while moving as an initiating action against an enemy. If that ability becomes something with offensive or proactive applications, I think it could go a long way toward mollifying the complaints about it slowing the pace of the game.

Delzhand

HOLY SHIT IT'S HAPPENING

Golden Yak

Her new suit seems more mechanical than the fusion suit. Wonder if any of the living metroid suit elements will come into play.

Kai_San

Kupi wrote: »

The thing that stood out to me in the trailer was that Samus used the parry/melee attack while moving as an initiating action against an enemy. If that ability becomes something with offensive or proactive applications, I think it could go a long way toward mollifying the complaints about it slowing the pace of the game.

They just showed exactly that yeah

BahamutZERO

Curly_Brace wrote: »

Sakamoto is the Producer of Dread.

well uhhhhhh hope he can reign himself in to pre-other M levels, or has learned from that experience in a positive way

Endless_Serpents

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Curly_Brace wrote: »

Sakamoto is the Producer of Dread.

well uhhhhhh hope he can reign himself in to pre-other M levels, or has learned from that experience in a positive way

Two babies.

SyphonBlue

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Curly_Brace wrote: »

Sakamoto is the Producer of Dread.

well uhhhhhh hope he can reign himself in to pre-other M levels, or has learned from that experience in a positive way

I mean, he's the producer for all Metroid games

He produced Samus Returns also, and that game was great

It depends on how much he's inserting himself into the story writing of the game

Delzhand

Dash melee counter that doesn't break momentum. Also loving the new suit.

Drascin

SyphonBlue wrote: »

BahamutZERO wrote: »

Curly_Brace wrote: »

Sakamoto is the Producer of Dread.

well uhhhhhh hope he can reign himself in to pre-other M levels, or has learned from that experience in a positive way

I mean, he's the producer for all Metroid games

He produced Samus Returns also, and that game was great

It depends on how much he's inserting himself into the story writing of the game

A producer, and a guy whose job is to squirt the producer with a water bottle whenever he gets close to the game's script.

Polaritie

AI Adam confirmed.

Delzhand

Polaritie wrote: »

AI Adam confirmed.

Booooo

BahamutZERO

if this game treats Other M as canon I'm gonna be pretty mad

Polaritie

I mean, Fusion's AI Adam wasn't awful. Other M was the issue.

Endless_Serpents

Other M can be canon as long as the only relevant take away is the Federation is the villain now.

Edit: More overtly the villain, with bosses to be destroyed.

The Dude With Herpes

BahamutZERO wrote: »

if this game treats Other M as canon I'm gonna be pretty mad

It will, but it doesn't mean it has to spend any time on it. It's got every Metroid game in there, in the brief snip of the "intro" to catch players up that was mentioned before the treehouse, and it's got the Adam AI from fusion, so....yeah.

Definitely the Fusion Adam wasn't bad like Other-M, but let's not gloss over how irritating it was agreed to be before Other-M took the bar and lowered it into hell. Regularly talking way too much (any is too much, just let me play, the Metroid story should be told in the environment, not exposition IMO), locking off areas etc.

Still though, I'm really banking in the dev house making the game. They did an excellent job with Samus Returns, and did a progression/gating system that was sensible (and more intuitive than Metroid 2's was originally), and added in fast travel that didn't undermine the exploration.

I've got my fingers crossed here, but I can't lie that it was a bit disappointing when I heard them mention Adam in the treehouse.

SyphonBlue

I kinda wish they hadn't shown off the unkillable robots chasing you. Let the player find that out for themselves.

The Dude With Herpes

SyphonBlue wrote: »

I kinda wish they hadn't shown off the unkillable robots chasing you. Let the player find that out for themselves.

Hopefully what they've shown are just the basic early game ones, just to explain the premise.

I think they kinda had to show something, to show what is the underlying feature that makes the title make sense; but I am assuming that they'll do some evolving throughout the game like the Metroids in M2, and that'll be lots of surprises and...dread...?

Terrendos

I didn't notice them say anything at all about Prime 4. Did I miss them confirming that this was, in fact, not Prime 4 with a name change?

Arteen

Fusion and Zero Mission both have sequences about running away from unkillable enemies and pretty much all the games have escape sequences of some form, so it's not much of a surprise to see it here, too.

shoeboxjeddy

Terrendos wrote: »

I didn't notice them say anything at all about Prime 4. Did I miss them confirming that this was, in fact, not Prime 4 with a name change?

It's a completely different game yes. Kind of a weird suggestion. They stated before the trailer that Prime 4 is still being worked on.

SyphonBlue

Terrendos wrote: »

I didn't notice them say anything at all about Prime 4. Did I miss them confirming that this was, in fact, not Prime 4 with a name change?

They said they are still working on it and will have something to show at a later date before going in to Dread.

Kai_San

Terrendos wrote: »

I didn't notice them say anything at all about Prime 4. Did I miss them confirming that this was, in fact, not Prime 4 with a name change?

It was literally the first thing they said before the announcement. That prime 4 is still in development and this was something different.

Dr. Chaos

Yeaaaaah!

Samus vs robots (and maybe the gubberment). Lets fucking go.

The Dude With Herpes

Terrendos wrote: »

I didn't notice them say anything at all about Prime 4. Did I miss them confirming that this was, in fact, not Prime 4 with a name change?

Yes, it is definitely not that. The wording indicated it was still in production and this was a new different thing.

Given that the last real info they gave on MP4 was that they were functionally starting over on development, I think they would have made it clear if this was replacing it.

Plus, Dread is being developed by a 3rd party (I'm not aware of Nintendo acquiring Mercury Steam at least), not the team they have on MP4 (retro?)

Phoenix-D

Speaking of Prime, Penny Arcade stripes sometimes age weirdly but this one is particularly hilarious in retrospect

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/02/21/count-your-lucky-stars

The Dude With Herpes

Phoenix-D wrote: »

Speaking of Prime, Penny Arcade stripes sometimes age weirdly but this one is particularly hilarious in retrospect

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/02/21/count-your-lucky-stars

I still want Metris

MNC Dover

Terrendos wrote: »

I didn't notice them say anything at all about Prime 4. Did I miss them confirming that this was, in fact, not Prime 4 with a name change?

Yeah, just before the Dread trailer, they said that Prime 4 is still under development but they had nothing to show today.

physi_marc

I really like Nintendo’s way of dropping a trailer for a new game and having the release date be barely four months away.

Delzhand

The Treehouse reminded me why I don't usually watch Treehouses. Sure, just keep turning around and shooting at the enemy the game just explained can't be hurt by your weapons. Or playing ring around the rosy and ignoring the obvious exit point. I can't tell if they've been coached to do certain things poorly or they're just actually bad.

SyphonBlue

Delzhand wrote: »

The Treehouse reminded me why I don't usually watch Treehouses. Sure, just keep turning around and shooting at the enemy the game just explained can't be hurt by your weapons. Or playing ring around the rosy and ignoring the obvious exit point. I can't tell if they've been coached to do certain things poorly or they're just actually bad.

They're definitely doing that to show off the mechanic.

IceBurner

The new game is clearly by MercuryStream. Good on them (and Nintendo). They more than proved themselves with Samus Returns.

I hope I won't miss the stereoscopic 3D this time. It really elevated the scenery in Samus Returns for me. I re-watched the trailer, and I think art design plus the Switch's power was leveraged to make up for it. What we got to see clearly favors backgrounds with lots of depth variation, that cover large distances from the foreground, or both at once.

Arteen

The Dude With Herpes wrote: »

Phoenix-D wrote: »

Speaking of Prime, Penny Arcade stripes sometimes age weirdly but this one is particularly hilarious in retrospect

https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2001/02/21/count-your-lucky-stars

I still want Metris

Tetris DS had a cool Metroid-themed mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_V4FfTwVpg

SyphonBlue

Man, the new slide is brilliant. No longer do I have to go into morph ball just to go under 1 block.

MNC Dover

I really love the speed and mobility of Samus in Dread. I know she's sort of a walking tank, but giving her some parkour style movements should really improve the flow of the game, especially during the chase scenes. Also, the chase sections in Fusion were awesome, so I'm glad were getting more of those. I recall that you'd get into a new area, and before you can explore, the chase began and you went through new areas without stopping. Kind of a cool way to get the player deeper into an area and tease some things they'll be seeing/doing.

GnomeTank

I'm just glad I get to play this on a TV instead of a tiny handheld screen.