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Hungry Guy
Rhino
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I stopped smoking, drinking and some other... um, "vices" back in jan/feb. Which is good. I don't need to be smoking, even though I loved it so!
Anyways, since then I've been hungry all the time.
I eat healthly... my diet is mostly Veggies and Grains (oats, rice, etc) then I throw in some fruits (apples mostly) if I'm hard up for something sweet and meat (chicken and eggs mostly) about two or three times a week.
I also exercise (carido) 5 times a week and work out (weights) abotu 3-4 times a week. (plus I have some other things I have to do that are fairly physically and keep me moving).
I drink a ton of water... about a gallon between when I wake up and "noon"... then atleast 3 glasses (18 ounces?) everytime I eat and a lot thoughout the day. Plus black coffee..
Anyways.. I'm probably 10 or 15 pounds more then I would like. I can drop it easily, but the thing is... I'm fuckign hungry. Even after I eat! I never usedto be this hungry when I smoked and did... "other".. vices.
So, basically what I'm asking, is how do I stop being hungry all the freaking time? I'm eating way more then I should be.
Anyways, since then I've been hungry all the time.
I eat healthly... my diet is mostly Veggies and Grains (oats, rice, etc) then I throw in some fruits (apples mostly) if I'm hard up for something sweet and meat (chicken and eggs mostly) about two or three times a week.
I also exercise (carido) 5 times a week and work out (weights) abotu 3-4 times a week. (plus I have some other things I have to do that are fairly physically and keep me moving).
I drink a ton of water... about a gallon between when I wake up and "noon"... then atleast 3 glasses (18 ounces?) everytime I eat and a lot thoughout the day. Plus black coffee..
Anyways.. I'm probably 10 or 15 pounds more then I would like. I can drop it easily, but the thing is... I'm fuckign hungry. Even after I eat! I never usedto be this hungry when I smoked and did... "other".. vices.
So, basically what I'm asking, is how do I stop being hungry all the freaking time? I'm eating way more then I should be.
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That is a fucking shit-ton of water. Do you drink that much because you're under the impression it's good for you, because you use it as a food substitute, or because you're actually that thirsty?
Also, quitting smoking almost certainly has a large part in this. Since you only recently quit, it's quite likely that you will get more used to the way your body feels without them and it will feel more normal over time.
Yea. I assumed it just while you where trying to quite though! I thought the "hunger pains" would start dying down by now
Partly because get really dehyderhated after morning workout (I sweat massivly). It's also partly because I read on the internet "If your hungry, drink a lot of water, you won't feel hungry any more". Also when I quit smoking/drinking, I got in the habit of drinking lots of water cause it is supose to help flush/clean system of bad chemicals/toxins and also used it as a "substibute" for smoking... everytime I wanted a smoke, I just drank a cool glass of water and kind of gotten into a bad habit with that.... but I supose drinking to much water is better then smoking! At least I hope.
true.
Once a week I take a "day off" where I don't exercise or workout... cause I heard that was good, to give your body a day to "repair" it's self and rest. I eat tons on that day too.
Yea, it's been about 5-6 months though. Half a year.
Dieticeans (or a bad approximation of the word) recomend eating a breakfast high in protein as it digests slower and helps you feel full.
Also do you have enough energy to do the things you need to? You may be infact not eating enough. Are steadily loosing a safe amount of weight (around 1 to 2 pounds a week)?
Satans..... hints.....
lots of veggise and some grains.
Last meal:
Big plate of this rice they had at work (had some creamy sauce on it, but more or less rice and lots of it).
about 1/4 of a chicken breast (it wasn't too good so I only ate about 1/4 of it.)
big old pile of warm/hot/cooked green beans with butter/salt
non-cooked:
3 medium size tomantoes with salt
handful of baby carrots (with dressing)
top from a brocoloi "clump" (with dressing)
"clump" of califlower (abotu 1-2 handfuls) (with dressing)
7-8 big old radishes with salt and some dressing
4-5 Babby oninons with some dressing
about 1/2 jar of olives (I love olives!)
hanful of almonds
3-4 prunes
Dressing was this orangic ranch stuff.. it doesn't have any bad stuff in it.
I would guess 12-14 ounces of water.
That's a pretty big meal, but I'm still feeling a bit hungry. That's about typically what I eat.
Generally I have enough engry. I feel a bit worn out at times, but don't think it's cause of lack of food though. I'll try putting a glass of soy milk in the morning (has tons of protien) and see if that helps. Also I'll pick up some fish at the store when I go... see if that helps.
thanks. I've heard that too before. I don't like to eat a lot of meat though.
Random generally meant birthday cake or something, not a hamburger in my pocket I forgot about.
And you don't seem to be getting a lot of protein, which may be why you're so hungry. More meat. And that many olives is probably quite a few calories, too, and those are a lot of fat.
I used to have serious hunger problems (weighed about 300 pounds at one point, down to 170 now), and I found the best way to keep my eating in check was to eat some protein for breakfast (yogurt is good protein and a good cereal replacement), eat a normal lunch that always included a decent amount of protein, whether it be some chicken or a piece of cheese post meal, a snack later (fruit and peanut butter is a godsend), anything for dinner. The main idea is just to be eating throughout the day so you never get anything beyond an "I could probably eat something right now". There's nothing wrong with eating every couple of hours, so long as your not eating huge amounts of food, or all the time. Or junk food.
Also, if you've picked up a strong caffeine addiction, you might want to cut back a bit. It's easy to mix up the energy drop from a caffeine crash with needing food to function.
If you must have grains, something such as oat bran can be cooked as if it were oatmeal. It is very high in fiber which makes it more filling than an ordinary serving of grains. Cinnamon and stevia are great for flavoring it.
As other people have already mentioned, protein is very important. If meat is really not your thing, you might like whey protein powder. It comes in all different flavors so there is bound to be something you like. There are versions that use artificial sweeteners, but there are also all-natural versions that sweeten with xylitol and stevia instead. Xylitol and stevia are natural non-sugar sweeteners. Some brands also add an enzyme formula (such as Aminogen) to enhance digestion of the protein powder. I usually get my whey protein from www.vitacost.com since it has a lot of options at good prices, but there are tons and tons of websites that sell whey protein at a much lower price than health food stores.
Also, since you mentioned you drink soy milk, it is important to use an organic brand. Almost all non-organic soy is genetically modified so that it can be sprayed with large amounts of an herbicide called Roundup.
As for the veggies, you're doing great! The only problem might be the salad dressing unless you have carefully examined every single ingredient on that label. Ranch is not well-known for being a healthy dressing in any way, even if it's organic. Sugar and canola oil (despite the hype) are not things you need to add to your food even if they are organic. Vinaigrettes are a good choice and they are easy to make out of extra virgin olive oil and vinegar plus sea salt and spices. Storebought ones will still likely use sugar and a cheaper oil, but you might be able to find a decent one if you check labels carefully.
btw, exactly how tall are you, and how much do you weigh in the first place?
I'll cut the olives out. Dam, those have a ton of cals! I got those backwards with Pickles. It's the pickles that don't have any cals. I'll get pickles next time instead of olives.
The ranch dressing, I only used a teaspoon or two, it's not like I'm chugging bottles of it.
For carbs/grains I have two big bags of oats I eat... I probably eat more oats then anything... next are these organic whole grain circle cereal things. I stay away from sugar (and corn syrup by default since I try to get all organic)... probably the highest "GI" foods I eat are fruits. I try to eat vegs instead of fruits, but yea, to much of that fructose stuff can't get ya if your not careful. I try to have not more then 2 pieces of fruit a day. I got a bunch of apples and blueberries this week, they aren't to bad in sugar compared to other fruits I like
I do have some cherries in there though... *droool*. Those are Sooo good.
stupid cherries, being all cherry and sweet.. tempting me to eat em.
Right now I'm 187 at 6'4". It's not overweight by much, but it's enough to take away from my definition and makes me feel all "puffy". With clothes on, I look fine for the most part. The biggest problem, is that I'm always hungry and always eating. It's only 10-15 pounds now, but if it keeps going this rate, it'll be 30 by end of year...
I'm going to try more protein in the morning. I'm also just going to "stop" eating every fucking time I'm hungry. Maybe just schedule it every 3 hours and if inbetween those times then 'tough fucking luck'. I think that's a pretty reasonable plan?
thanks for your help guys. I'm betting it's the protein.
Whole grains certainly have a lower glycemic index than their more processed counterparts. However, it is still somewhat high. A person's metabolic type determines whether they do alright with whole grains or if they really need a higher protein meal to not feel hungry soon afterwards. Just gotta try stuff and find out how the individual reacts.
Another tricky issue with whole grains is that a lot of "whole grain" products simply have -some- whole grain in them and the rest is not. This isn't a problem if you're having plain brown rice, but it's a problem if you're shopping for whole wheat bread and such. You'll often find both whole wheat flour and plain wheat flour in the ingredients list. They'll also still have some form of sugar added in most cases.
First of all, you are not overweight if you are not exaggerating your height and weight in any way. Your BMI is 22.8 which is perfectly healthy, and if you are working out a lot it may be that you have a fair amount of muscle, which weighs more than fat anyway.
Also, at that height and weight your basal metabolic rate is 2033. If you're highly active (to be honest, you should probably rest an extra day, or cut down on the cardio if you're weight-lifting) you're probably burning at least another 1500 calories, so you actually want to be eating 2500-3000 calories to maintain a realistic deficit for weight-loss.
Anyway, definitely seconding/thirding protein in the mornings. I'm on a reduced calorie diet but I still manage to feel full - my breakfast is rolled oats, soya milk and an egg which sets me up nicely for the day, tastes pretty good, and fits well within my dietary requirements.
additionally, you may want to up your fiber intake, as fiber is incredibly healthy for you and it makes you feel full.
Wherever you read that ("Drink water when you're hungry") was full of shit. Water does very little if anything to curb appetite, and can actually cause some very negative symptoms as a result of water intoxication. I'm not saying you're going to die, because you're not drinking nearly enough to die from it, but you ARE drinking enough to get a mild case of electrolyte imbalance, which can cause fatigue and a lowered metabolism.
If you sweat profusely during a workout (as I do), drink some gatorade (note: GATORADE, not powerade... Gatorade has purely water, flavoring, and electrolytes potassium, sodium, calcium and magnesium, whereas powerade has lots of extra stuff, like lots of sugar and B vitamins, which you don't really need) while you train, and then a little more after your workout. This will keep your electrolytes up.
Then, for the rest of the day, slowly drink water, and no more than 1 or 2 litres over the course of the whole day. Your body DOES NOT need more than that. Sometimes we can fool ourselves into thinking we do because we're constantly told to drink water, but you really don't. The 7 glasses a day thing is a myth: You get a lot of water out of your foods, so you don't need 7 ADDITIONAL glasses of water a day.
You'll get the same electrolytes and stuff, only without all the added sugar. It's got, like, 20% of the calories of regular Gatorade.
As for the BMI, it depends, Janson. If he's a naturally skinny guy, 22.8 might be really big for him, whereas if you're someone like me, 22.8 would probably be underweight. The only real way to tell is to look at yourself.
Just like resisting smoking cravings to gradually have them dissipate, you can probably do the same with your hunger. If you find you're getting hungry every hour or two, and you eat something, tomorrow the exact same thing is going to happen.
Ever wonder how some people don't eat lunch/breakfast/both? It's because their bodies have been trained to not desire food at that time. Anyone who has adjusted their lunch time (say for a new job) has probably observed this first hand. I believe it is related to circadian rythyms. (btw, not eating both breakfast and lunch is probably not healthy - but I'm just saying people do it and feel no significant hunger).
This assumes you are indeed getting enough calories and nutrition for your metabolism and physical activity. You should examine your nutrition intake and see if you're low on anything. Don't forget about fat too - your body needs a small amount of fat per day, and its one of the main ways your stomach knows its full (or at least not hungry). You seem to do a lot of exercise, so you'd want somewhere around 70-80 grams of fat per day.
In survival training, one thing they teach you is to not eat anything for the first 24 hours even if you have food available. This helps shrink your stomach so that when you do eat, it wont take much to feel full. Eating too much works in the opposite way - you'll stretch your stomach and want more food tomorrow. So you could try fasting for a day, and drinking a moderate amount of water (less than what you've been drinking, otherwise the water alone could keep your stomach enlarged). The following day eat a reasonable amount - resist as much as you can. On the third day, see if your appetite has changed.
Yeah, take it easy on the water too. That could certainly be a problem. Not to get gross, but how is your 'digestion'? Drinking lots of water (and especially if you have a lot of fiber) could result in your not absorbing/digesting before the food passes through your body. It could have the similar effect as bulimia sufferers using laxitives to pass food before processing it.
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