I got an email from illumicrate that they’re selling signed special editions of all three books with these kind of like bone pile sprayed edge designs.
Unless I’m really bad a conversion math, the price seems to basically just be retail on 3 hard covers so I’m tempted but overseas shipping probably hits that hard.
It’s like, I certainly don’t need to buy 3rd copies of all of these books. But I’m intrigued!
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I got an email from illumicrate that they’re selling signed special editions of all three books with these kind of like bone pile sprayed edge designs.
Unless I’m really bad a conversion math, the price seems to basically just be retail on 3 hard covers so I’m tempted but overseas shipping probably hits that hard.
It’s like, I certainly don’t need to buy 3rd copies of all of these books. But I’m intrigued!
The question is though, will they do the 4th book? Ide hate to get these three then the 4th not matching.
Yeah that would be annoying for sure. Seems like they’re only selling as a set too, so even if they do a repeat for the last book, they would need to add a “just the last one” option for previous buyers.
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I’m sorry what there is a Mistborn skin in fortnite?
What?!?
People thought it was a sign they were about to announce a movie.
And then they didn't.
The skin is Kelsier with a mistcloak and also glass daggers.
Did I redownload fortnite, buy the skin, and uninstall again? Maybe!
Also Sanderson wrote the Infinity Blade novelizations so he's got some industry contacts at Epic, I think.
"A new take on the epic fantasy genre... Darkly comic, relatable characters... twisted storyline."
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I have started my reread a bit later than I planned but I read to the end of part 1 tonight and actually I’m kind of mindblown how much they just directly state from the beginning about what is happening.
Like, among a bunch of those moments, I actually cant believe that Teacher literally just tells them all plainly what the end result will be.
but I see no reason not to hope that I may behold eight new lyctors by the end of this, joined together with their cavaliers…
I have started my reread a bit later than I planned but I read to the end of part 1 tonight and actually I’m kind of mindblown how much they just directly state from the beginning about what is happening.
Like, among a bunch of those moments, I actually cant believe that Teacher literally just tells them all plainly what the end result will be.
but I see no reason not to hope that I may behold eight new lyctors by the end of this, joined together with their cavaliers…
The most impressive thing about the book is how much Gideon reframes, references, and exists in conversation with stuff that you can only notice upon rereading not only itself but also Harrow. This fucking book full to the brim with stuff that only makes sense once you've read Harrow. It does all that and yet it doesn't spoil anything.
Just finished Gideon. Glad to infer that the breadcrumbs dropped in this book might have follow-up!
But oh man, I am not a fan of the modern tone.
I summed it to my partner as "very online" and illustrated my distaste with, "Gideon had spent too long in the depths of Drearburh not to know when to, put scientifically, get outie." Nope, no thank you; even forewarned, that flavor of cheeky self aware meta humor is grating for what I expected, apparently. (Unless there's shenanigans to be discovered, it feels... unpleasantly anachronistic, yeah. It's too of this zeitgeist, too cutely deliberate in its slang, actively countering suspension of disbelief & engagement in a distant future or place. It undermines or fights what is different about the setting, a distraction from observing and internalizing those things as such, rather than grounding or amusing me with something familiar.) Don't mistake me; I recognize the sample is fairly mild, as it goes, but I'd just read it.
That diction may be less irritating over time or exposure, but on a first pass, the deployment tended to jar me out of the flow of reading more often than not.
But the plot, and the general descriptiveness, yes'm. I like a mystery, and pulp, and peeking into alien cultures with foreign politicking and practices. I didn't love the book, but it was interesting, and I did like many of the supporting characters. So I'll continue on, at some point.
Second-person ought to be interesting, and I wonder if different viewpoint characters will sufficiently change the diction & tone for me to find the read easier/less of a stumbling block.
I had a lot of trouble with the tone in my first read because I didn't think it landed firmly enough in a place, was it supposed to be funny or was it supposed to be serious, and I didn't think the blend worked. I was in the minority at the time and probably still am but I'm glad you felt the way you did pooka, I'm not totally crazy!
I came to enjoy many of the jokes, but they're actually not that frequent, though perhaps more frequent and still jarring is the overall modern slang Gideon uses even when she's being serious. The second book has a notable drop in the vernacular though.
The only one that really yanked me out of time and space was the Kate Beaton reference. But I have a high tolerance for overly cute bullshit.
Wait, which one was that?
"Old. Old as balls." It's pretty early on.
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I think after I settled in to “that’s just Gideons voice”, I had zero issues with the meme slang in Gideon. If anything, it felt more out of place in Harrow, partly because she’s so self serious that the jokes are few and far between, and partly because they often came out of God, which is conceptually jarring.
But makes sense that the apple wouldn’t fall far, etc
I came to enjoy many of the jokes, but they're actually not that frequent, though perhaps more frequent and still jarring is the overall modern slang Gideon uses even when she's being serious. The second book has a notable drop in the vernacular though.
Theres less, but whats there goes straight for the heart with a rusty blade.
Spoilers obviously for harrow.
The goddamn dad joke, and to a lesser extent the none pizza joke. Holy fuck.
I came to enjoy many of the jokes, but they're actually not that frequent, though perhaps more frequent and still jarring is the overall modern slang Gideon uses even when she's being serious. The second book has a notable drop in the vernacular though.
Theres less, but whats there goes straight for the heart with a rusty blade.
Spoilers obviously for harrow.
The goddamn dad joke, and to a lesser extent the none pizza joke. Holy fuck.
That's a case that I think is justified and subsequently almost tragic
because the emperor is the last surviving millennial and he's just sadly making these Earth pop culture and meme references that nobody has understood for ten thousand years
That is to say it would be tragic if he didn't suck so much, but it can still be sad in another sense
My theory is that the entire universe we've seen so far (except for maybe the river) is something John created out of nothing.
Partially fleshed out world building by a millennial memelord who became a god, somehow. The given stories about the war and thanergy etc are just set dressing. That is, lies.
Abd you have these interjections of very out of context humor (or things like the harrow fanfic sequences because you're at the edges of things John has created, his characters just gaining sentience.
Aioua on
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Just finished my gids reread and damn does it just work for me.
Just spoilers for long
I don’t mean this to be a response to the last few comments but I honestly don’t get the “it’s internet speak” critiques. Like it’s not reference humor just jammed out of place for the lols. It’s not family guy saying “remember this meme?” The writing feels natural in a way that makes me think of modern cultural mythology. The writing would also seem totally in place to people unfamiliar with the things being referenced.
Like one example which I missed on my first read, about glaurica they say “she died on the way back to her home planet.” I missed that on my first read and I literally remember simpsons quotes I haven’t watched in almost 20 years, including everything about the dang poochie episode! When he’s not on screen people should be asking “where’s poochie!”
I think Gideon was such a good pov character. I loved that being ordered to be silent and also being out of her depth on the nonsense happening in Canaan house have the same practical effect, culminating in just her pure essential “what the fuck” while they’re watching the lyctors fight. I think the breaking point to her “vow of silence” was incredibly poignant and the offhand “oh I had heard you were talking now” just used as a dagger to really turn you against the eighth.
I think ianthe’s plot line might be the most obviously telegraphed thing ever, though I don’t think muir trying to hide it. Very much a “no one saw because no one thought to look” kind of thing, which honestly can be expanded to the whole plot.
And again I come back to the thing where teacher never lies and dulcinea claims to never lie. Like dang they really just gave us all the pieces and we were like “these are nice pieces”
I had to double check if there was any additional bits in the paperback like what was added to harrow. Is it just the 2nd intelligence reports? Before I jump into harrow
are not perfect examples of speech that doesn't flow and is just a big wink to the reader. For sure, your example above is a better and more subtle insert, though I still think the glaring examples are quite few.
Just finished my gids reread and damn does it just work for me.
Just spoilers for long
I don’t mean this to be a response to the last few comments but I honestly don’t get the “it’s internet speak” critiques. Like it’s not reference humor just jammed out of place for the lols. It’s not family guy saying “remember this meme?” The writing feels natural in a way that makes me think of modern cultural mythology. The writing would also seem totally in place to people unfamiliar with the things being referenced.
Like one example which I missed on my first read, about glaurica they say “she died on the way back to her home planet.” I missed that on my first read and I literally remember simpsons quotes I haven’t watched in almost 20 years, including everything about the dang poochie episode! When he’s not on screen people should be asking “where’s poochie!”
I think Gideon was such a good pov character. I loved that being ordered to be silent and also being out of her depth on the nonsense happening in Canaan house have the same practical effect, culminating in just her pure essential “what the fuck” while they’re watching the lyctors fight. I think the breaking point to her “vow of silence” was incredibly poignant and the offhand “oh I had heard you were talking now” just used as a dagger to really turn you against the eighth.
I think ianthe’s plot line might be the most obviously telegraphed thing ever, though I don’t think muir trying to hide it. Very much a “no one saw because no one thought to look” kind of thing, which honestly can be expanded to the whole plot.
And again I come back to the thing where teacher never lies and dulcinea claims to never lie. Like dang they really just gave us all the pieces and we were like “these are nice pieces”
I had to double check if there was any additional bits in the paperback like what was added to harrow. Is it just the 2nd intelligence reports? Before I jump into harrow
Re the stuff added to the paperback. Not sure if you're counting among the intelligence report stuff, but the paperback I just got had a fun bit in it
"A Sermon On Cavaliers and Necromancers" which is a long-winded thing about how great and wonderful the whole cav and necro relationship is and how symbolic and so on and so forth.
Which is followed by like a 2 sentence note from one of the original lyctors, found in the secret files kept preserved in the 6th house library, complaining about the One Flesh, One End phrase saying they need to find a different one because that one sounds like instructions for a sex toy and they hope it doesn't stick around.
Oh cool, this ties into a deeper in the book mystery
Ortus gives her the idea to sub in Gideon! but the reader doesn't see that because the name got replaced by ORTUS NIGENAD and our only hint to things going on so far is in the personae dramatis at the start of the book with gideon being horror show scratched out. and then the body enters to proclaim that it's all wrong.
Oh cool, this ties into a deeper in the book mystery
Ortus gives her the idea to sub in Gideon! but the reader doesn't see that because the name got replaced by ORTUS NIGENAD and our only hint to things going on so far is in the personae dramatis at the start of the book with gideon being horror show scratched out. and then the body enters to proclaim that it's all wrong.
Oh cool, this ties into a deeper in the book mystery
Ortus gives her the idea to sub in Gideon! but the reader doesn't see that because the name got replaced by ORTUS NIGENAD and our only hint to things going on so far is in the personae dramatis at the start of the book with gideon being horror show scratched out. and then the body enters to proclaim that it's all wrong.
Wait..... what?
It's a scene of harrow and ortus having just received the summons to Canaan house, he goes down a list of the reasons he was unfit to serve the task, then they have this exchange
"lady," ventured Ortus, voice deepening with timidity, "I would not venture it-but if a cavalier's duty is to hold the sword-if a cavalier's duty is to protect with the sword-if a cavalier's duty is to die by the sword-have you never considered ORTUS NIGENAD?"
emphasis is in the text. then they have the exact same exchange from just before that like the scene skips/deja vu and the body enters
Oh cool, this ties into a deeper in the book mystery
Ortus gives her the idea to sub in Gideon! but the reader doesn't see that because the name got replaced by ORTUS NIGENAD and our only hint to things going on so far is in the personae dramatis at the start of the book with gideon being horror show scratched out. and then the body enters to proclaim that it's all wrong.
Wait..... what?
It's a scene of harrow and ortus having just received the summons to Canaan house, he goes down a list of the reasons he was unfit to serve the task, then they have this exchange
"lady," ventured Ortus, voice deepening with timidity, "I would not venture it-but if a cavalier's duty is to hold the sword-if a cavalier's duty is to protect with the sword-if a cavalier's duty is to die by the sword-have you never considered ORTUS NIGENAD?"
emphasis is in the text. then they have the exact same exchange from just before that like the scene skips/deja vu and the body enters
cuz in Gideon even though its presented to us by Gideon as Harrow fucking with her, it really is a big statement that Harrow planned everything out so that she could bring Gideon with her, even while continuing to proclaim her total disdain for her, of course. Its an early hint (though probably only noticeable on reread) that Harrow really does have respect for Gideon / needs her around, if at least in a toxically dysfunctional way.
Actually yeah I don't think Ortus inspiring the Gideon pick is true IRL, just in Harrow's dreamscape narrative. Cuz Ortus only finds out about the mission when everyone else does, and then immediately flees on the shuttle. Harrow sets him up to get him out of the way for Gideon to serve as cavalier.
Kana on
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
I came to enjoy many of the jokes, but they're actually not that frequent, though perhaps more frequent and still jarring is the overall modern slang Gideon uses even when she's being serious. The second book has a notable drop in the vernacular though.
Theres less, but whats there goes straight for the heart with a rusty blade.
Spoilers obviously for harrow.
The goddamn dad joke, and to a lesser extent the none pizza joke. Holy fuck.
That's a case that I think is justified and subsequently almost tragic
because the emperor is the last surviving millennial and he's just sadly making these Earth pop culture and meme references that nobody has understood for ten thousand years
That is to say it would be tragic if he didn't suck so much, but it can still be sad in another sense
This conversation has got me thinking
If Gideon's meme-speak might have something to do with being God's daughter. I have a secret theory that Gids survived and Harrow ended up such a super special necromancer because of that connection.
I think the difference is that the other characters drop memes sometimes but it's just a little easter egg for readers, the characters don't KNOW they're droppin' memes.
With the exception of God, who is totally aware that he's dropping millennia old memes on an audience who totally don't get his references. He makes references just to amuse himself.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
I think the difference is that the other characters drop memes sometimes but it's just a little easter egg for readers, the characters don't KNOW they're droppin' memes.
With the exception of God, who is totally aware that he's dropping millennia old memes on an audience who totally don't get his references. He makes references just to amuse himself.
Yeah. Like, in the context of the characters talking Harrow could reasonably say "we studied the blade" without it being a reference Gids and God however totally drop intentional groaners that people don't know how to respond to.
An early chapter has Harrow say, "While we were developing common sense, she studied the blade."
edit: I suppose you could argue that Harrow is subconsciously borrowing the style of speech from Gideon; I'd have to check who else talks like that.
That's one I missed on my first read through. I didn't realize it was a meme because it was also literally true.
Yeah, they aren't that disruptive to me as I didn't recognize most of them. It's Tamsyn's work, she can write it however she wants is kinda my stance.
Muir is a talented and unique writer who's done some frankly amazing work right out of the gate. I'm only online here, but her writing made me Google some of the things that sounded memey which just led to even more groaned laughter.
She gets a pass from me too, excited to see where her work goes.
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People thought it was a sign they were about to announce a movie.
And then they didn't.
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Unless I’m really bad a conversion math, the price seems to basically just be retail on 3 hard covers so I’m tempted but overseas shipping probably hits that hard.
It’s like, I certainly don’t need to buy 3rd copies of all of these books. But I’m intrigued!
The question is though, will they do the 4th book? Ide hate to get these three then the 4th not matching.
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The skin is Kelsier with a mistcloak and also glass daggers.
Did I redownload fortnite, buy the skin, and uninstall again? Maybe!
Also Sanderson wrote the Infinity Blade novelizations so he's got some industry contacts at Epic, I think.
"Readers who prefer tension and romance, Maledictions: The Offering, delivers... As serious YA fiction, I’ll give it five stars out of five. As a novel? Four and a half." - Liz Ellor
My new novel: Maledictions: The Offering. Now in Paperback!
Like, among a bunch of those moments, I actually cant believe that Teacher literally just tells them all plainly what the end result will be.
The most impressive thing about the book is how much Gideon reframes, references, and exists in conversation with stuff that you can only notice upon rereading not only itself but also Harrow. This fucking book full to the brim with stuff that only makes sense once you've read Harrow. It does all that and yet it doesn't spoil anything.
https://gofund.me/fa5990a5
But oh man, I am not a fan of the modern tone.
But the plot, and the general descriptiveness, yes'm. I like a mystery, and pulp, and peeking into alien cultures with foreign politicking and practices. I didn't love the book, but it was interesting, and I did like many of the supporting characters. So I'll continue on, at some point.
Second-person ought to be interesting, and I wonder if different viewpoint characters will sufficiently change the diction & tone for me to find the read easier/less of a stumbling block.
35 minutes of work before I can check for sure
Wait, which one was that?
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"Old. Old as balls." It's pretty early on.
Edit (harrow spoilers)
But makes sense that the apple wouldn’t fall far, etc
Theres less, but whats there goes straight for the heart with a rusty blade.
Spoilers obviously for harrow.
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That's a case that I think is justified and subsequently almost tragic
That is to say it would be tragic if he didn't suck so much, but it can still be sad in another sense
Partially fleshed out world building by a millennial memelord who became a god, somehow. The given stories about the war and thanergy etc are just set dressing. That is, lies.
Abd you have these interjections of very out of context humor (or things like the harrow fanfic sequences because you're at the edges of things John has created, his characters just gaining sentience.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Just spoilers for long
Like one example which I missed on my first read, about glaurica they say “she died on the way back to her home planet.” I missed that on my first read and I literally remember simpsons quotes I haven’t watched in almost 20 years, including everything about the dang poochie episode! When he’s not on screen people should be asking “where’s poochie!”
I think Gideon was such a good pov character. I loved that being ordered to be silent and also being out of her depth on the nonsense happening in Canaan house have the same practical effect, culminating in just her pure essential “what the fuck” while they’re watching the lyctors fight. I think the breaking point to her “vow of silence” was incredibly poignant and the offhand “oh I had heard you were talking now” just used as a dagger to really turn you against the eighth.
I think ianthe’s plot line might be the most obviously telegraphed thing ever, though I don’t think muir trying to hide it. Very much a “no one saw because no one thought to look” kind of thing, which honestly can be expanded to the whole plot.
And again I come back to the thing where teacher never lies and dulcinea claims to never lie. Like dang they really just gave us all the pieces and we were like “these are nice pieces”
I had to double check if there was any additional bits in the paperback like what was added to harrow. Is it just the 2nd intelligence reports? Before I jump into harrow
Re the stuff added to the paperback. Not sure if you're counting among the intelligence report stuff, but the paperback I just got had a fun bit in it
Which is followed by like a 2 sentence note from one of the original lyctors, found in the secret files kept preserved in the 6th house library, complaining about the One Flesh, One End phrase saying they need to find a different one because that one sounds like instructions for a sex toy and they hope it doesn't stick around.
Oh cool, this ties into a deeper in the book mystery
Wait..... what?
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
It's a scene of harrow and ortus having just received the summons to Canaan house, he goes down a list of the reasons he was unfit to serve the task, then they have this exchange
emphasis is in the text. then they have the exact same exchange from just before that like the scene skips/deja vu and the body enters
OH.
OOOOOOooooooh!
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Fuuuuuuuck
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Actually yeah I don't think Ortus inspiring the Gideon pick is true IRL, just in Harrow's dreamscape narrative. Cuz Ortus only finds out about the mission when everyone else does, and then immediately flees on the shuttle. Harrow sets him up to get him out of the way for Gideon to serve as cavalier.
This conversation has got me thinking
https://gofund.me/fa5990a5
An early chapter has Harrow say, "While we were developing common sense, she studied the blade."
edit: I suppose you could argue that Harrow is subconsciously borrowing the style of speech from Gideon; I'd have to check who else talks like that.
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With the exception of God, who is totally aware that he's dropping millennia old memes on an audience who totally don't get his references. He makes references just to amuse himself.
That's one I missed on my first read through. I didn't realize it was a meme because it was also literally true.
Yeah. Like, in the context of the characters talking Harrow could reasonably say "we studied the blade" without it being a reference Gids and God however totally drop intentional groaners that people don't know how to respond to.
https://gofund.me/fa5990a5
Yeah, they aren't that disruptive to me as I didn't recognize most of them. It's Tamsyn's work, she can write it however she wants is kinda my stance.
Muir is a talented and unique writer who's done some frankly amazing work right out of the gate. I'm only online here, but her writing made me Google some of the things that sounded memey which just led to even more groaned laughter.
She gets a pass from me too, excited to see where her work goes.
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