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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.
    they were weak

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.

    On the bright side
    We don't have to worry about mixing up their names in this one.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.
    they were weak
    I could see him being more pissed about you fucking up some plan he had with them or killing off heirs more so than because he loved them.

    Then again, maybe he did in his own fucked up way, and the only person that gets to fuck with his family is him. So he's gonna be gunning for your ass regardless.

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.
    they were weak
    I could see him being more pissed about you fucking up some plan he had with them or killing off heirs more so than because he loved them.

    Then again, maybe he did in his own fucked up way, and the only person that gets to fuck with his family is him. So he's gonna be gunning for your ass regardless.
    He explicitly only cared about one of them according to Mimir. Magni, because he was blonde. That's it, that's the entire reason he was the favored child.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.
    they were weak
    I could see him being more pissed about you fucking up some plan he had with them or killing off heirs more so than because he loved them.

    Then again, maybe he did in his own fucked up way, and the only person that gets to fuck with his family is him. So he's gonna be gunning for your ass regardless.

    In a way, yes.
    According to the Ragnarok prophecies, Magni and Modi are supposed to outlive Thor, and be some of the few Aesir to survive the whole event and see the new world.

    In addition to everything else, Kratos and Atreus have most certainly thrown off the entire prophecy and chucked the Aesir into unknown territory.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.
    they were weak
    I could see him being more pissed about you fucking up some plan he had with them or killing off heirs more so than because he loved them.

    Then again, maybe he did in his own fucked up way, and the only person that gets to fuck with his family is him. So he's gonna be gunning for your ass regardless.

    In a way, yes.
    According to the Ragnarok prophecies, Magni and Modi are supposed to outlive Thor, and be some of the few Aesir to survive the whole event and see the new world.

    In addition to everything else, Kratos and Atreus have most certainly thrown off the entire prophecy and chucked the Aesir into unknown territory.

    Yeah, that's a big reason why they freak out.
    Because they know the prophecy of Ragnarok and they know they are prophecized to survive it.

    And on that note
    ....anyone else find it a little disquieting that Tyr has both hands in the trailer?

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    That was the first thing I noticed about him, yes.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Did god of war 18 ever explain how Kratos went from Greece to the Norse Lands or whatever?

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Did god of war 18 ever explain how Kratos went from Greece to the Norse Lands or whatever?

    His legs probably

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Did god of war 18 ever explain how Kratos went from Greece to the Norse Lands or whatever?

    Nope.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    Did god of war 18 ever explain how Kratos went from Greece to the Norse Lands or whatever?

    grimly

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    ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    i started playing this after the new trailer came out

    ridiculously good game but i do have two things i'm pretty cold on: puzzles feel a little too frequent and involved, with the rune chests being by far the worst offenders, since they also end up being incredibly pixel hunty

    the other complaint is the RPG enemy scaling, which seems hellbent on punishing me for going anywhere off the critical path or listed subquest. i'm getting harrassed by a multiple purple enemy hit squad like, every couple minutes when i just want to like, do the stuff i see around

    but man is it good

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    The combat was the weakest part of the game.

    It was very satisfying for about an hour or two until you encountered the majority of the enemies you were gonna encounter in the game and all the Kratos rage stomps were the exact same. The rest of the game is so good it doesn't really bother me too much. That's the one thing I hope they add to in GoW:R. Just some more combat variety.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.

    In Norse mythology
    gods that die don't always stay dead. The same could end up being true in Ragnarok.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.

    In Norse mythology
    gods that die don't always stay dead. The same could end up being true in Ragnarok.

    Here’s the thing about that
    The nominal being that one would make deals with to revive a god, Hel, does not exist because Atraeus is Loki and hasn’t been up to Loki fucking.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    edited September 2021
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.

    In Norse mythology
    gods that die don't always stay dead. The same could end up being true in Ragnarok.

    Here’s the thing about that
    The nominal being that one would make deals with to revive a god, Hel, does not exist because Atraeus is Loki and hasn’t been up to Loki fucking.


    Here's the actual thing about that:
    Given how travel between the realms works in the 2018, it sure does seem like they can escape from Helheim.

    As well, there's actually no indication that Hel is the one responsible for reviving gods in either traditional mythology or the game. We don't actually know by what force gods are revived, just that they are and can be. I'm going to go ahead and say that because the Aesir and Jotun (who are not as far separated as both sides would like to think) are supernatural beings to whom very few rules seem to apply, that "A wizard did it"/"Magic!!!" is the explanation we have for divine remanifestation.

    After all, Kratos has clawed his way out of how many underworlds after dying how many times? The hard stops aren't so hard when you're Of The Divine, as it were.

    Hacksaw on
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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    I absolutely adored the combat and spent so much time doing the optional combat challenges.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.

    In Norse mythology
    gods that die don't always stay dead. The same could end up being true in Ragnarok.

    Here’s the thing about that
    The nominal being that one would make deals with to revive a god, Hel, does not exist because Atraeus is Loki and hasn’t been up to Loki fucking.


    Here's the actual thing about that:
    Given how travel between the realms works in the 2018, it sure does seem like they can escape from Helheim.

    As well, there's actually no indication that Hel is the one responsible for reviving gods in either traditional mythology or the game. We don't actually know by what force gods are revived, just that they are and can be. I'm going to go ahead and say that because the Aesir and Jotun (who are not as far separated as both sides would like to think) are supernatural beings to whom very few rules seem to apply, that "A wizard did it"/"Magic!!!" is the explanation we have for divine remanifestation.

    After all, Kratos has clawed his way out of how many underworlds after dying how many times? The hard stops aren't so hard when you're Of The Divine, as it were.

    Kratos is special to say the least
    Because every other god he kills stays dead, except Athena for Reasons.

    And I’m going off Hel specifically because she’s who Frigga/Freya goes to to plead for Baldr’s return.

    Heck if anything one thing that makes Norse gods special is that they can die. Greek gods or godlike entities don’t die, they get imprisoned eternally or maimed or whatnot. And Kratos still killed them ded

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I absolutely adored the combat and spent so much time doing the optional combat challenges.

    I got most of the Valks down but got super annoyed at the unblockable fuck you die move

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Hacksaw wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.

    In Norse mythology
    gods that die don't always stay dead. The same could end up being true in Ragnarok.

    Here’s the thing about that
    The nominal being that one would make deals with to revive a god, Hel, does not exist because Atraeus is Loki and hasn’t been up to Loki fucking.


    Here's the actual thing about that:
    Given how travel between the realms works in the 2018, it sure does seem like they can escape from Helheim.

    As well, there's actually no indication that Hel is the one responsible for reviving gods in either traditional mythology or the game. We don't actually know by what force gods are revived, just that they are and can be. I'm going to go ahead and say that because the Aesir and Jotun (who are not as far separated as both sides would like to think) are supernatural beings to whom very few rules seem to apply, that "A wizard did it"/"Magic!!!" is the explanation we have for divine remanifestation.

    After all, Kratos has clawed his way out of how many underworlds after dying how many times? The hard stops aren't so hard when you're Of The Divine, as it were.

    Kratos is special to say the least
    Because every other god he kills stays dead, except Athena for Reasons.

    And I’m going off Hel specifically because she’s who Frigga/Freya goes to to plead for Baldr’s return.

    Heck if anything one thing that makes Norse gods special is that they can die. Greek gods or godlike entities don’t die, they get imprisoned eternally or maimed or whatnot. And Kratos still killed them ded

    Die, and come back to life. So, they """die""". The Norse gods can still come back to life because Reasons. Nothing is permanent for them, least of all death.

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    mosssnackmosssnack Yeah right, man, Bishop should go! Good idea!Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    I absolutely adored the combat and spent so much time doing the optional combat challenges.

    Yeah, I had a lot of fun with the combat. The only thing I didn’t enjoy was trying to do the valks on give me god of war difficulty. Giant sponges that very nearly one shot you with each hit

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Juggernut wrote: »
    I could see them playing this Thor as older and maybe more clever than a younger Thor, but just as, if not more violent and vindictive. It's just there simmering beneath the surface and while maybe he still isn't the smartest of the gods, he's learned he doesn't necessarily have to pound everything into dust to inflict a lot of pain. He could be more manipulative and exploitative.

    That could be a really cool and frankly, terrifying way of depecting him.

    Plus you know
    You killed his sons.
    they were weak
    I could see him being more pissed about you fucking up some plan he had with them or killing off heirs more so than because he loved them.

    Then again, maybe he did in his own fucked up way, and the only person that gets to fuck with his family is him. So he's gonna be gunning for your ass regardless.

    In a way, yes.
    According to the Ragnarok prophecies, Magni and Modi are supposed to outlive Thor, and be some of the few Aesir to survive the whole event and see the new world.

    In addition to everything else, Kratos and Atreus have most certainly thrown off the entire prophecy and chucked the Aesir into unknown territory.

    Yeah, that's a big reason why they freak out.
    Because they know the prophecy of Ragnarok and they know they are prophecized to survive it.

    And on that note
    ....anyone else find it a little disquieting that Tyr has both hands in the trailer?

    Second spoiler
    I'm personally suspicious of his right hand. His wrist has that leather bracer around it. I wouldn't be surprised if that was some Vanir magic stuff that has attached a prosthetic to his stump, and is hiding the gash where Fenrir bit off his original hand.

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    So
    I dunno how practical it is to look to the original Prose to figure out GoW's Rules™️ since it largely seems to be a framing device for them to tell their story.

    Jormungandr and Fenrir apparently exist but Hel may or may not, despite Loki still being a child and the events that led to their birth obviously not happening yet. I vaguely recall something about time travel or whatever explaining their presence?

    Anyway, my quick, off the cuff theory is that GoW was starting to be something of a prequel for the story of the Gods. Then (sticking with the themes of change and growth, resisting the urge to cling to old, bitter ways and choosing a new path for yourself) Kratos and Atreus basically curb stomped the Aesir's time line and sent everybody spiraling off into the unknown. Whatever rules did apply don't anymore. If Ragnarok happens it won't happen the way it was supposed to.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    I like the combat and I can tell there’s a lot there for people who are into like juggles and more complex stuff, but as someone who plays rather basically I wanted more finisher moves. I mean that’s not really a criticism, the finisher moves were fucking incredible, and so I just wanted more. I especially wish you could’ve done finishers with the second weapon you get, and they have wall stuns but I wanted like full on wall or environment animated finishers too

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited September 2021
    Jesus Christ fuck this Sigrun Valkyrie queen fight. It’s way too hard for me even on normal. I’m going to turn it down and get the trophy on easy cos fuck that. I can’t even get her past like half health and that’s with a resurrection stone

    Fucking Christ it’s still insane on story mode. I’m level 9 I don’t know what else I could be doing stats wise, but skill wise I’m just not up to this. I managed to beat it but damn it was close. On story mode!

    Prohass on
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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Yeah, the Sigrun fight is one I just decided wasn't worth the grind of trying over and over and I think it's the only thing I haven't done for completion.

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    I am hoping for larger/more involved set pieces and fight, something closer to the previous GoW (though maintaining the more serious tone).

    I still think the best fight in the game is the very first one.

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    I got held up enough by that "Don't take damage" Challenge room thing that I didn't bother with the rest. Did all the Valks, did the mist maze business, but not that.

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