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Shenanigans!
Yes on Slavery.
Hinduism as a state religion is nifty, and it gives us culture.
Yes on changing state religion to hinduism
Isn't the spot one south of the copper right on the coast? We have a river, copper, ivory, and coast. I think that would be the best spot.
Build a city directly south of the copper, name it whatever you want.
We should build infrastructure like libraries, monasteries, and such, let our cities grow.
We should research meditation, sailing, and Iron working, no particular reason.
Whats the threat? Not saying that a military's a bad idea, but I would think that it would have a more aggressive purpose.
Oh yeah, vote Picardathon, Frandelgearslip, Shinto.
We already have writing according to last nights update.
I swear to God, I will pistol whip.... oh nevermind.
Thank you for your vote, Shinto. I have no intention of giving into Laos' petty bribes. In fact, if elected, I will never name a city after myself. How's about them apples?
With that statement you have just convinced I made the right choice voting for you instead of richy.
This power mad imperialist has ethics damn it!
Did someone vote for me? I don't even have any proposals!
You've got to ride your wave of charisma; quick make a throwaway proposal. Something like
If Elected I wont declare war on every civilization simultaneously.
On the black screen
Well, c'mon then Shinto, lets see some proposals over there!
We should do science, develop new and stronger units, and wait until we have a large enough military of units that are far enough in advance of the Incas to stand a chance of winning.
In the meantime, LaOsville near the ivory is a priority. In general, I support LaOs' plan. And so, I vote for LaOs.
1. Continued settlement in the northeast - a city for the Ivory and a city for the Crabs. All cities in the northeast to build two archers, then a worker, then a library and granary.
2. Technology development to follow Frandel's suggestion of Horseback/Alphabet/Masonry
3. Trading of non-military tech with our neighbors and scouting of their borders.
Peace and Expansion through Strength.
I still maintain that entering into a war with both (or even one!) of our neighbours at this stage will cripple our development. LaOsville and Inkshire should both be established before we begin any attacks.
Richy speaks with the voice of reason. We are out numbered, and the Quechua are a slight bit better than our Warriors, so we're a bit outpowered, as well. War, right now, would be folly. Richy sees clear and clarity is what the Council needs. I vote for myself and Richy.
Of course we're outnumbered right now, which is why my platform does not advocate immediate war with our neighbors, but instead focusing our northern build priorities on military units, so as to overcome the larger numbers of our opponents.
At this point I vote for myself and Shinto
But I'm also with Richy on the idea of building our military strength just in case. While the Inca have shown no signs of open hostility, I don't trust them enough to expect them to not blindside us without warning. Maintaining a few active units couldn't hurt.
Inkoate - 3
Shinto - 3
Picardathon - 2
Frandelgearslip - 2
LaOs - 2
Richy - 1
Proposition 4 (a party system) - 5 yes, 2 no
Adopt Slavery - 1 yes, 5 no
I also just want to remind people to actively vote "no" against amendments - do we want to address votes to change civics the same way we do amendments (require a proposal and then vote the next round)?
Now that everyone has three votes - but are not necessarily exercising all three - it's going to be a little hard to tell what is 1/2 or 2/3 of the electorate.
EDIT: Now that I say this, counting everyone who has voted shouldn't be a problem.
Yeah, we've had a total of seven people vote for councilors so far. So Shinto's proposition would require 4 yeas, and the adoption of Slavery would need 5 (at this point).
I guess my real complaint is people spreading out their votes; but that's probably due to it being easy to make a decision on Civics and amendments up front, and wanting to wait to hear people's platforms. So, no big deal at the moment.
What do people think of me just dividing the councilor votes by three to get our plurality for referenda (Civic changes and amendments)? It's not perfect because you don't have to vote for three people, but it's close. In a way, it actually helps counter-balance the extra voting power of those who only use one or two of their votes.
Are you sure on the vote count for Inkoate? I know he voted for himself in two different places and thought that only Shinto (as of Hacksaw's vote) had received three. I'm re-checking now...
Yeah, I only see two separate votes for Inkoate. He voted for himself in two different places, which may have been what threw you off:
Inkoate - 2
Shinto - 3
Picardathon - 2
Frandelgearslip - 2
LaOs - 3
Richy - 2
And awfully convenient for you :P
I was keeping an eye on things. It is a close day.
So how about some indication of our rivals' borders on the resources map?
Absolutely, I only have two votes. Sorry for the double, I didn't mean to confuse AJ. Rivals borders on the map would be glorious as well, I agree.
Oh Shinto, after all we've been through? You turn on me just that easily. We could have gone far together, man. ;-)
Perhaps we shall form a nationalist party if the change to the constution passes and we can assemble one.
Here's the current resource map:
The Inca are in their old spot, their city shrouded by the blackness SE of the Cows. Their borders are the standard two-deep.
The Chinese are in the black area NNW of the Copper and due west of the southern Gold. I recall their borders being three-deep.
EDIT: Also -
Inkoate - 2
Shinto - 4
Picardathon - 3
Frandelgearslip - 3
LaOs - 3
Richy - 2
I was hoping you could do a rough outline, on the map, but that helps a bit. I mean, I can tell when certain resources are within the borders of another civ, because they become that colour (their outlines), but if there's no resource in the area I'm curious about, I can't tell easily where the borders end.
Elephants and horses, go go go.
I also declare voting closed.
Inkoate - 3
Shinto - 4
Picardathon - 3
Frandelgearslip - 4
LaOs - 4
Richy - 2
Thank you for your votes, citizens! I will do my best to work with my fellow Councillors for the glory of the Empire.
Councillors: here is my proposal. I am willing to work with you both on developing our final draft.
You had at one point, if I recall, supported my bid for a settlement at Inkshire--would the addition of Inkshire into our settlement pattern be acceptable? (The city proposed one tile east of the Copper.) Aside from that, I agree completely with your build order for the cities--I, too, would like to emphasise Libraries over Granaries in the contested lands in the northeast. (The addition of the workers to the queue is a good move.)
Attempted compromise proposal:
1. tech tree: horseback/alphabet/masonry
2. Settle one city at the ivory location this city will be named Ghandiburg. Settle another city near the crabs this city will be named after a god in Oboro's pantheon. If there is time and opportunity settle a third city near the copper, this city shall use the default name given.
3. Attempt to build roads connecting all cities.
4. Trade techs (and maps after alphabet) with our neighbors. Try not to give up military techs, but make sure to get every tech we can.
5. Every city shall build libraries. They shall also build granaries if neccesary. Every city needs to builds archers for defense and a worker to build roads and other improvements.
Amended item five.
In this form it has my approval.
I agree to this
I really do not have a strong preference for the names of any of our cities, but I must press the importance of founding the city I have been referring to as Inkshire as soon as possible. If we wait too long, the Incan borders will creep too close and we will not have a desirable location for the settlement. It should not be placed on the backburner.
Everything else I agree to, except Delhi should work on a Granary and then a Library, as our Capital has more need of greater production than culture, as its borders are in no danger of being pushed back.
I have ammended item two. Copper city before Crab city so we do not lose out to Incan expansion.
I agree with everything else.
This is not a good plan. Four cities is not enough, and our foes will soon develop boats and rob us of our southern continent and northeastern peninsula.
We are building 3 cities this turn how many more do you want?
I agree to this
I don't think we should have to worry about boats and that type of settlement at this point. I see your concern for Settler development and agree... however, I think that this build order is temporary. I would support moving back to developing Settlers after our cities, especially the ones in the contested northeastern lands, have two Archers each defending them.
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Exactly.