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edited February 2022 in Social Entropy++
This is the thread where we talk about how Dune ripped off MST3K.

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    OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    I'm still fucking reeling from this, holy shit

    This is my "phoenix down" moment

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    see317see317 Registered User regular
    Can we also talk about the comparative weights and densities of witches, ducks and very small rocks in this thread?

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Can we also talk about the comparative weights and densities of witches, ducks and very small rocks in this thread?

    Yes, but please provide citations and include metric conversions.

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    A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    I liked Train to Busan

    I'll watch the remake

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Olivaw wrote: »
    I'm still fucking reeling from this, holy shit

    This is my "phoenix down" moment

    There is a bedding/linens store near me called "Phoenix Down" and I've wondered for years if they got the name from Final Fantasy or if it's just a weird coincidence.

    Oddly enough, their FAQ page on their website doesn't include this information.

    Edit: Fuck it, I just messaged them on facebook to ask.

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    astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    I expect the remake to be very faithful to the source material except for all that yucky stuff about late-stage capitalism.

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    Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    I wonder who they can find that will match the sheer odiousness of the asshole in Train to Busan. That dude played a special breed of fucker.

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    miscellaneousinsanitymiscellaneousinsanity grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and brother, i hurt peopleRegistered User regular
    we have movie sign the likes of which even GAWD has never seen

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    I wonder who they can find that will match the sheer odiousness of the asshole in Train to Busan. That dude played a special breed of fucker.

    Mel Gibson.

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    LasbrookLasbrook It takes a lot to make a stew When it comes to me and youRegistered User regular
    I double featured Dark Angel and Dune today.

    Dark Angel was a dumb fun movie, for whatever reason despite Hulu billing it as Dark Angel in their system the video used the I come in peace title. Speaking of how many other movies have dropped the name of the movie in dialogue before they even get the title card? Also why the hell did he keep saying that? Either way this seems like a highly inefficient system for making space drugs.
    Dolph Lundgren was good as the doesn’t play by the rules cop paired with the stick up his ass FBI agent.

    Dunc was pretty good, I think I eventually grew to like it more than the Lynch one? I’m sure if I rewatched it I would swing back the other way. It was a very pretty movie which was not really a surprise. Definitely glad I had subtitles on already because there were definitely some parts that were not great. I thought all the fight scenes were kind of bad? Like the shield effect definitely made it harder to parse anything but I thought the final fight of the movie without them was still poorly shot? I dunno.
    So I haven’t really read the book so all my Dune experience is from the Lynch one. It’s a bummer we never really got to see that cool Atredies armor in action since they got surprise attacked. I like that Leto’s suicide attack actually worked. I wish the movie explained the whole imperial conditioning and mentat stuff like at all. It was cool to see more of fremen culture than the other movie though.

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    RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    Man how cool would Dunc have been if the faction uniforms were more diverse than Black, White, Grey, and Desert Mix

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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Man how cool would Dunc have been if the faction uniforms were more diverse than Black, White, Grey, and Desert Mix

    That's pretty much what uniforms today are like, though. Add Dark Blue and Dark Green, I guess.

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    TicaldfjamTicaldfjam Snoqualmie, WARegistered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Ringo wrote: »
    Man how cool would Dunc have been if the faction uniforms were more diverse than Black, White, Grey, and Desert Mix

    That's pretty much what uniforms today are like, though. Add Dark Blue and Dark Green, I guess.

    I really liked the simple color Plattes in the new "Dune."

    Because who really wants "Oregon Ducks NCAA football uniforms", or, "Cyberpunk 2077" too busy colors distracting from the story.

    the standard colors on the clothes were simple and Dune 2021 was better for it.

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    astrobstrdastrobstrd So full of mercy... Registered User regular
    A bit more cautiously optimistic about the Train to Busan remake after seeing it's being made by Timo Tjahjanto. "Safe Haven" from VHS 2 gets him a line of credit and I enjoyed The Night Comes for Us even if it yucked some of y'all out.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Horror movie remakes are a time honored tradition and I'm not ready to dismiss it outright just because the original is good

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Fun fact. At the end of every Dr Forrester/TV’s Frank episode, Forrester says, “push the button Frank!”

    This is an intentional direct reference to the 1965 Tony Curtis/Jack Lemmon movie, The Great Race where Professor Fate, played by Lemmon, tells his assistant Max, played by Peter Falk to, “push the button Max!” This happens several times to every ridiculous effect.

    In the New MST3K is it even more a direct reference as Patton Oswald plays Max, TV’s son of TV’s Frank.

    The Great Race is my dad’s favorite movie so I think that is neat.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    This is the thread where we talk about how Dune ripped off MST3K.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    This is the thread where we talk about how Dune ripped off MST3K.

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Dune’s sandworm didn’t even eat anyone cool like Boba Fett.

    Lame.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Both films are actually ripping off Lawrence of Arabia, which I have been told is a work of fiction.

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Both films are actually ripping off Lawrence of Arabia, which I have been told is a work of fiction.

    I liked it better when it was called Aladdin.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    Man how cool would Dunc have been if the faction uniforms were more diverse than Black, White, Grey, and Desert Mix

    That's pretty much what uniforms today are like, though. Add Dark Blue and Dark Green, I guess.

    Okay but Dune takes place in the year 10,191.

    The uniforms can be any color because its a fictional story.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    The modern Dune had an unenviable task because for all its issues, I think Lynch's movie really fkn nailed a lot of the look and feel of the setting. The 1800s-style, Imperial Russian and Ottoman-y uniforms were exactly on point for the heavily Ottoman-inspired setting, and you had stuff like the sort of brass, late-1800s fin-de-siecle ornamenting on the Guild navigator's tank, the way the Guild ships looked like huge floating cities, the Bene Gesserit looking like space nuns, the Middle Eastern-ish architecture etc etc. It had a strong enough look that it persisted through the Westwood games and the ancillary products that came out in subsequent decades.

    DUNC had to choose to either try to reproduce that vibe and get roasted for being unoriginal, or go wildly different and risk being way off the mark, or try to catch lightning in a bottle twice and do something that was somehow both new and equally valid.

    And....ultimately, I think it ended up doing all three approaches at various points, with varying degrees of success. The new Sardaukar and the new ornithopters are a triumph and are now the definitive take on those concepts in my mind's eye. The Atreides knight-looking battle armor is a neat original touch that I wasn't seeking but am glad it's there. The new Bene Gesserit and the new stillsuits aren't very different at all from Lynch's take but that's fine, because they are totally valid and instantly recognizable as what they are. But then at the lower end, some of the architecture, some of the objects and production design (like the assassination droid, or the brutalist architecture) just felt like generic sci-fi concept art that could have come from anything and didn't have the handmade, religious, feudal look that I would want in a Dune thing.

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    People keep saying how great the sardaukar looked and in my mind's eye all I remember is kind-of-light-coloured fairly nondescript sci-fi onesies.

    Not that I think that's bad, I like how the film looked, I guess I don't care if the clothes are that extravagant.

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    Sir PlatypusSir Platypus Registered User regular
    I've just booked 2 tickets to see The Muppet Christmas Carol with a live orchestra.

    I feel like a very fancy child right now.

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    That said, I'd also watch a dune with more colourful out there costumes like the concepts Moebius did once
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    Although looking at a few more of those, some of them seem at least a bit problematic.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Am I the only one who thought that the Sardaukar in Dunc were not any more effective than any other soldiers we saw on screen?
    Like oh we saw them sneak behind some guys. Oh wow. Amazing super soliders! Like the book tells us how completely badass they are and then Duncan just murks tons of them in the movie.

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    SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    Yeah, although I don't remember the Lynch ones seeming that awesome either.

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    VladimerVladimer Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    This is the thread where we talk about how Dune ripped off MST3K.

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    I do not accept this is a real article

    I’ve got bad news.

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    NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Am I the only one who thought that the Sardaukar in Dunc were not any more effective than any other soldiers we saw on screen?
    Like oh we saw them sneak behind some guys. Oh wow. Amazing super soliders! Like the book tells us how completely badass they are and then Duncan just murks tons of them in the movie.

    A key plot point in the book:
    The Emperor's real power comes from the Sardaukar, and the sole reason that he allies with Baron Harkonnen to take out House Atriedes is that Leto, thanks in no small part to Duncan and Gurney, has managed to train his personal fighting force to be nearly as good as the Sardaukar. It makes sense that Idaho bodies so many, he's presented as a major existential threat to them.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Narbus wrote: »
    Am I the only one who thought that the Sardaukar in Dunc were not any more effective than any other soldiers we saw on screen?
    Like oh we saw them sneak behind some guys. Oh wow. Amazing super soliders! Like the book tells us how completely badass they are and then Duncan just murks tons of them in the movie.

    A key plot point in the book:
    The Emperor's real power comes from the Sardaukar, and the sole reason that he allies with Baron Harkonnen to take out House Atriedes is that Leto, thanks in no small part to Duncan and Gurney, has managed to train his personal fighting force to be nearly as good as the Sardaukar. It makes sense that Idaho bodies so many, he's presented as a major existential threat to them.

    There also seems to be an emphasis on the quality and importance of individuals. You'd think with the scope of an Empire generated over another eight thousand years a single soldier wouldn't matter, but Idaho and Gurney get name checked.

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    OdinOdin Registered User regular
    Was Duncan also in the David Lynch movie? I don't remember his character at all

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Odin wrote: »
    Was Duncan also in the David Lynch movie? I don't remember his character at all

    Yep!

    He isn't that memorable within it though.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Ringo wrote: »
    Man how cool would Dunc have been if the faction uniforms were more diverse than Black, White, Grey, and Desert Mix

    That's pretty much what uniforms today are like, though. Add Dark Blue and Dark Green, I guess.

    Okay but Dune takes place in the year 10,191.

    The uniforms can be any color because its a fictional story.

    correction, it takes place in 10191 AG

    That’s after guild
    which took place in about 11000 CE

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Basically 20k years from now, give or take.

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    ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    Oh? Its twenty-thousand years from now?

    Well, of course they should dress just like us then.

    I should have seen more jorts and JNCOs in DUNC

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited November 2021
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Oh? Its twenty-thousand years from now?

    Well, of course they should dress just like us then.

    I should have seen more jorts and JNCOs in DUNC

    Instead of a massive flowing robe underneath Vladimir Harkonnen, it's just impossibly huge JNCOs

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
    Can we also talk about the comparative weights and densities of witches, ducks and very small rocks in this thread?

    Yes, but please provide citations and include metric conversions.

    Poppycock! Back in my day we measured witch density in scruples per half-peck, and that's the way we liked it!

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    minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    see317 wrote: »
    Can we also talk about the comparative weights and densities of witches, ducks and very small rocks in this thread?

    Yes, but please provide citations and include metric conversions.

    Poppycock! Back in my day we measured witch density in scruples per half-peck, and that's the way we liked it!

    Gonna need that in kg/m^3, bud

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