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The 117th United States [Congress]
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The last thread hit 100 pages. I'll make a better OP when I'm not at lunch.
The United States Congress. We still have one. Despite the last President's best efforts
The United States Congress. We still have one. Despite the last President's best efforts
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Fuck Sinema.
I know it's ridiculous but I hope we can keep the house, and get an actual 50+ in the senate. Until then, I ain't expect shit.
Also, we should change out the leadership that let themselves get scammed out of BBB by passing BIF separately.
BBB was never actually on the table
We'll never know thanks to said leadership.
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Jeezy Fuckin Creezy
Also, wasting so much time on it.
You only get to deflect so much blame when you allow yourselves to be strung along for so long.
Not saying it should have been brought to the floor without some attempt at negotiation, but when Manchin couldn't come up with the "ten reasonable Senators" (late June), and came up empty, it should have been when they moved forward, and then blame Manchin and Republicans both.
All the extra six months did, to end with this result, was make them look like chumps.
It was DOA before this Congress was seated. The only things we were ever going to get were appointments and Reconciliation Bills. With the latter being dependent on whatever level of unanimity can be reached between Bernie Sanders and Joe Manchin/ Sinema.
*citation needed
Thank you, also,
FUCK
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rnc-says-it-will-stop-future-gop-nominees-from-participating-in-presidential-debates-unless-commission-makes-changes/ar-AASKtuS?ocid=uxbndlbing
Sounds like an opportunity for a lot of uninterrupted air time for non-GOP candidates.
Cool. Stay home. Give the time to the candidates that will attend.
Couldn't see what the required changes are in the link, but I can make some pretty reasoned guesses that they're bullshit.
the nanosecoond it looks like one is ready to deal the other comes and shits on everything.
Do they have to hold onto that little rope attached to the turnbuckle, or is the ref not paying attention?
Because at this point, professional wrestling is less performative than the pair of them.
Sadly I wouldn't be surprised at all if the debate commission is so beholden to their ritual place and the views it draws in that they decide to bend over backwards to GOP demands.
I would be surprised if they didn't.
If only one person shows up I promise you no channel will air it. They'll say at that point it's just a speech and they need to keep things fair and equal and do the whole two separate town hall thing, which is what this sounds like the RNC is trying to get them to do anyway.
Yup. Republicans get pissy and throw a tantrum, and media give them what they want out of fear of looking unfair.
Rather than saying "we had rules, they failed to meet them, their choice", which would have stopped the possibility of Trump infecting Biden with Covid if the protocols had been met, rather than relying on Trump's "honor".
That's how far they're willing to go with balance. Allow one candidate to try and intentionally infect another with a potentially fatal disease.
I just hate so many people involved in Congress so much. Nothing but bad faith actors.
I saw that thread too and though "yup, fits the available evidence "
All the more reason for progressives to eject her and send her out on the ice floe. None of her Chamber of Commerce friends are going to hang around if she has no actual power.
Since I hate her so much I look forward to her finding out just how far off her calculations are on this one.
Her fucking off on vacations all the time is really gonna help her here, yes
Bum, maybe senators are worse than NFL owners afterall
While it's possible, if not probable, that she gets punished for her bullshit at the ballot box, I'm going to withhold any expectations she actually pays a meaningful price for it.
Book deals, punditry options, meaningless executive positions with six/seven figure salaries, especially if she goes the Gabbard "woe is me, the Democrats are mean!" bullshit route. Especially if she openly flips to Republican. Republicans won't want her in office, but they will want her as a weapon in their arsenal.
She might fade from public view, but I doubt she'll ever have to work a real job ever again. That's just not the reality we live in, where assholes face proper consequences.
She may never have to work again, but I can’t picture her as anything other than a token Democrat on Fox News after this.
She will hopefully run for President and fail miserably because she just spent the last 4 years pissing off the people who would vote in a primary. For that same reason I don’t see her being all that successful if she writes a book. And hopefully the nice executive job will go away too once people see that she’s useless because both sides hate her.
Arpaio had a reliable core constituency, Sinema has a couple dozen lobbyists pretending to like her
She's a female, bi, Democrat. Diversity jackpot as far as a Fox guest talking head goes.
Also, a lot of bad things (e.g. Iraq and Afghanistan invasions) have passed with bipartisan support. Even with a not-so-fascist GOP, the belief in the inherent goodness of bipartisan support is nonsense.
I feel it's more relevant to point out that historically there have been diametrically opposed political camps to the point of threatening the country's stability and legislation that has passed on "party line" votes to address them include things like the goddamn 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment.
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Once she gets bounced out of office shes going to be the person who does all the talking head spots about how Democrats have lost their way etc.
Edit - like non-zero chance she has a speaking spot at the Republican Convention by the end of the decade.
The US government is also designed to require extremely broad consensus among legislators to do anything.
One of the things you see in a lot of other democracies is that need for broad consensus is a norm rather then a requirement. A majority in a westminster-style parliamentary system can ram through whatever it wants technically.
Nothing keeps 50+1 Senators and a bare majority of the House from ramming through whatever the President won't veto. Senate rules can be changed on a whim if you have majority support and as such are just strong norms.
The problem is we don't have 50+1 Senators willing to do it, not that 50+1 Senators can't.