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Would you Rather Have More Figurative time or more Literal Time?

Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
Simple question: Would you rather have a super power that gave you more literal time or more figurative time?

Figurative time: Doing menial tasks, traveling, etc. Anything that is rote, that you only put up with because you have to, that is necessary but annoying. This won't make your entire work day feel faster, just meetings or particular tasks with your job that you hate doing. The flip side is that while everything will fly by from your perspective, they will all take longer to do. It could take you six hours to do a four hour trip, but you wouldn't notice it at all, for example.

Conversely, having more literal time is exactly what it says on the tin. You get things done, and you get them done fast. You can make a 4 hour trip in 3 hours, you can blaze through meetings, etc. etc. The flipside here is that time dilatation is in full effect and those 3 hours might feel like 6 or more. Time will slow to a crawl from your perspective, but you will have far more actual time in the day.

Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.

Would you Rather Have More Figurative time or more Literal Time? 28 votes

Figurative Time
28%
Munkus BeaverPoorochondriacDepressperadoRingoMortal SkyMagellLucedesMadican 8 votes
Literal Time
71%
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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    No thanks, Satan.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Figurative Time
    Reality is a lie agreed upon, only the subjective matters

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Literal Time
    We have limited time and I want more of it

  • sponospono Mining for Nose Diamonds Booger CoveRegistered User regular
    For literal time, do I still get tired and need to go to sleep after 18 hours or so of perceived time?

    If so, does that mean I can just go to sleep for what feels like 8 hours to me, but is actually 5 minutes for everyone else?

    If I do this, does my aging remain at the rate of the rest of the world, or do I age according to my perceived time?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Figurative Time
    spono wrote: »
    For literal time, do I still get tired and need to go to sleep after 18 hours or so of perceived time?

    If so, does that mean I can just go to sleep for what feels like 8 hours to me, but is actually 5 minutes for everyone else?

    If I do this, does my aging remain at the rate of the rest of the world, or do I age according to my perceived time?

    You get more literal time. So it will feel longer to fall asleep but you'd wake up earlier without the negative side effects.

    It's a choice between feeling like you have more time, but actually not vs actually having more time, but feeling like you don't.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    *checks herb supply*

    More literal thyme, please

    I'm making soup

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Look, I just want to live for eternity. I want to witness the heat death of the universe and continue existing, even if I float alone in the utter void afterwards and time loses all meaning. I do not want to stop my existence

    So I choose whichever of the two options lets me do that

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    Look, I just want to live for eternity. I want to witness the heat death of the universe and continue existing, even if I float alone in the utter void afterwards and time loses all meaning. I do not want to stop my existence

    So I choose whichever of the two options lets me do that

    Me, I want to upload and duplicate my mind to absorb nearly all art and knowledge in one collective lifetime, kick start the Trans-Temporal Machine God, and construct the apparatus to cause the artificial Deep Crunch. You know, the usual.

    So...figurative I guess?

    You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Figurative Time
    What I experience is the only thing that truly matters. If a drive takes fifteen minutes in bumper to bumper traffic where it feels like an hour or thirty on open road but feels like fifteen I'm taking the latter every time.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Figurative Time
    Madican wrote: »
    What I experience is the only thing that truly matters. If a drive takes fifteen minutes in bumper to bumper traffic where it feels like an hour or thirty on open road but feels like fifteen I'm taking the latter every time.

    When I had to go into an office, I would always, always prefer an hour-long bus ride where I could read or play games or whatever to a half-hour drive in traffic. How the time feels is so much more important to me than how much actually passes.

  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Literal Time
    I am so scarred by the awful movie "Click" that anything similar to the fast forward effect in that movie gives me serious anxiety.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Figurative Time
    Madican wrote: »
    What I experience is the only thing that truly matters. If a drive takes fifteen minutes in bumper to bumper traffic where it feels like an hour or thirty on open road but feels like fifteen I'm taking the latter every time.

    When I had to go into an office, I would always, always prefer an hour-long bus ride where I could read or play games or whatever to a half-hour drive in traffic. How the time feels is so much more important to me than how much actually passes.

    Yep, and that's why I now take the train to visit parents rather than drive through California freeway traffic. No stress, play with my phone, close my eyes for a bit, it's wonderful.

  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Literal Time
    I already feel like I never have enough time so just getting more time would be cool.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Figurative Time
    Further clarification:

    This only works on stuff that you do not want to be doing in some capacity. Busywork, travel, sitting in church, etc. If you are taking a test or something else that is specifically time gated, then you gain/lose the literal time during a commute while the test itself would feel longer/shorter based on what you selected.

    It's not a monkey's paw situation, it's not trying to fuck you up.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Literal Time
    "More figurative time" actually does sound like a deal offered by satan: "you get to skip all the annoying parts!" and then at the end of the play the tragic hero realizes they've burned through some of the most meaningful moments in their lives. Helping your kid with homework may often feel like a chore in the moment but I can't imagine someone looking back on their life and going "if only I had spent less time with my kids".

    "More literal time" sounds like the gift of an actual, benevolent God: more accomplishments in your life, more experiences, more opportunities to learn patience, fewer ambitions left unrealized because you had to handle cleaning the gutters or whatever.

    Choice seems clear to me.

  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2022
    Literal Time
    It's a choice between feeling like you have more time, but actually not vs actually having more time, but feeling like you don't.

    this is just how I live anyway so I may as well push on in that direction.

    tynic on
  • SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    I'd rather have the first one but minus the downsides

  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    I'm on team "no thanks, satan"

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    Figurative Time
    one of my recurring desires is to be able to skip a good portion of every day

    like, people expect me to be awake 8, 10, 12 fucking hours? 12 hours of life in a row? no thanks.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Both of these seem... extremely bad?

    Like, more figurative time basically guarantees you're always late for things and slow and ineffective at performing tasks while giving you less time to do fun stuff (even if the periods between doing fun stuff feels shorter). More literal time basically turns existing menial tasks into a mental prison sentence in exchange for a comparatively minor increase in actual time to do fun stuff, although the side effect of being very effective at boring work stuff might make it somewhat better.

    It feels like the current balance without these is generally better?

    I ate an engineer
  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    "May you live in literal times" -Alexander the Great

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Figurative Time
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    "More figurative time" actually does sound like a deal offered by satan: "you get to skip all the annoying parts!" and then at the end of the play the tragic hero realizes they've burned through some of the most meaningful moments in their lives. Helping your kid with homework may often feel like a chore in the moment but I can't imagine someone looking back on their life and going "if only I had spent less time with my kids".

    "More literal time" sounds like the gift of an actual, benevolent God: more accomplishments in your life, more experiences, more opportunities to learn patience, fewer ambitions left unrealized because you had to handle cleaning the gutters or whatever.

    Choice seems clear to me.

    It's difficult to imagine being on my death bed and thinking "Damn I wish I spent more time sitting in traffic"

    I've never once been in traffic and experienced a feeling other than "boredom" or "anger," I will TiVo through that shit and not regret it for a second

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    MrMonroe wrote: »
    "More figurative time" actually does sound like a deal offered by satan: "you get to skip all the annoying parts!" and then at the end of the play the tragic hero realizes they've burned through some of the most meaningful moments in their lives. Helping your kid with homework may often feel like a chore in the moment but I can't imagine someone looking back on their life and going "if only I had spent less time with my kids".

    "More literal time" sounds like the gift of an actual, benevolent God: more accomplishments in your life, more experiences, more opportunities to learn patience, fewer ambitions left unrealized because you had to handle cleaning the gutters or whatever.

    Choice seems clear to me.

    It's difficult to imagine being on my death bed and thinking "Damn I wish I spent more time sitting in traffic"

    I've never once been in traffic and experienced a feeling other than "boredom" or "anger," I will TiVo through that shit and not regret it for a second

    I dunno, when I was really going through a depressed period in my life I would have loved to have been punished like that (but not in a fun, sexy way). I knew in a bone deep way that I was an awful person and deserved to suffer

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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Literal Time
    I enjoy my life all the time, so feeling like my life is taking longer, while getting more done, would only be making my life better.

  • MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Figurative Time
    I assume we can toggle this thing on and off anyway, since it was clarified this was explicitly not meant to be a monkey's paw deal.

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Literal Time
    The only way I'd have more figurative time is if I had more literal time to do all the drek and then have more/any left over for good stuff.

    On the other hand, I don't care if menial tasks last forever.
    The choice is clear.

  • IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost This is also my fault Registered User regular
    Which one of these more closely aligns with additional Miller Time?

  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Figurative Time
    I feel like this would give me a better chance at success with regards to completing the myriad activities that stand in the way of genuine self care. If there's no burden to completing those tasks then I get to spend less time fruitlessly wrestling with depression and anxiety. I already have an entire decade of lost time due to depression, giving up a few extra hours a day is a bargain

    Hell, fuck, it would mean I could actually hold a job again.

    Ringo on
  • #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
    Literal Time
    I guess I find it interesting that so many people assume if they had a time manipulation super power they'd still have a normal day job with meetings and emails and busy work?

    If I could do 10 hours worth of work in 10 minutes I'd be the world's most saught after self employed specialist in fuckin any one of hundreds of time sensitive fields.

    I could do a week's worth of billable hours before lunchtime on Monday and that's without having to spend a week completing a law degree.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    #pipe wrote: »
    I guess I find it interesting that so many people assume if they had a time manipulation super power they'd still have a normal day job with meetings and emails and busy work?

    If I could do 10 hours worth of work in 10 minutes I'd be the world's most saught after self employed specialist in fuckin any one of hundreds of time sensitive fields.

    I could do a week's worth of billable hours before lunchtime on Monday and that's without having to spend a week completing a law degree.

    Even assuming the dilation is that strong, the example given was that you could get four hours of stuff done in three hours that feels like six hours. 10 hours of work done in ten minutes that feels like doing 20 hours straight (if it's just doubling) or that feels like 600 hours (if it's proportional to the dilation) is either burnout inducing or super hell.

    milski on
    I ate an engineer
  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited March 2022
    Like, I understand this isn't meant to be a monkey's paw situation so it's not going to kick in when you don't want it to, or whatever, but as written you either lose a huge chunk of your free time in exchange for avoiding tedium or you gain a marginal amount of extra time by adding a truly ludicrous amount of mental tedium to routine tasks, and both of those are really bad to ever activate!

    milski on
    I ate an engineer
  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Would you rather have more Figurative Tim
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    or Literal Tim?
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  • IronKnuckle's GhostIronKnuckle's Ghost This is also my fault Registered User regular
    The only appropriate Tim is the one where one of the Giant Bomb people reads some excerpts to a crowd and then ends up throwing the book.

  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Literal Time
    Regardless I'd still prefer my machine that sends your consciousness back in time to when you were 18 with your memories intact, even if that does kind of make me a Cassandra.

    Next poll: which mythical Greek hero's curse seems like the least bullshit to have to deal with?

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    Literal Time
    I voted literal time, but I'd also accept "get the restorative properties of 8 hours of quality sleep in just 4 hours real time." I think that would improve my life the most.

  • KadithKadith Registered User regular
    become a nihilist or burn out?

    that's what i'm reading right?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Figurative Time
    Madican wrote: »
    I assume we can toggle this thing on and off anyway, since it was clarified this was explicitly not meant to be a monkey's paw deal.

    It's not really intended that way as a toggle, but if you didn't want the effects to happen they wouldn't happen.

    I'm actually a little surprised that more people want literal time than figurative time.
    #pipe wrote: »
    I guess I find it interesting that so many people assume if they had a time manipulation super power they'd still have a normal day job with meetings and emails and busy work?

    If I could do 10 hours worth of work in 10 minutes I'd be the world's most saught after self employed specialist in fuckin any one of hundreds of time sensitive fields.

    I could do a week's worth of billable hours before lunchtime on Monday and that's without having to spend a week completing a law degree.

    It's not 10 hours of work in ten minutes, you are still doing things in a reasonable amount of time. It's just faster metaphorically/literally for you. Little bits, here and there. And again, if there was something that could not logically happen (i.e. having to wait for something to bake) you would gain/lose the time elsewhere.

    What I'm specifically getting at is would you like for it to feel like you have more time, but don't, or would you rather have more time, but feel like you have less. That's the crux of this.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Figurative crime

  • Kristmas KthulhuKristmas Kthulhu Currently Kultist Kthulhu Registered User regular
    i cri evrytiem

  • discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Literal Time
    Going from zero free time to zero free time is not much of a disadvantage.

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