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Nothing... I guess, dramatic. Last time I flew in a plane I get nervous then, too. I'm just afraid something will happen to our flight. I know the chances are small, but I'm always a "What if"-guy. Didn't help I read about a lot of plane crashes on Wiki a second again and now I'm even more tense. We're going to a convention, a group of us, and I'm excited to go and want to.... I just wish we weren't flying. Once we lift off, I'm completely fine for the entirety of the trip... its just the initial "zomg wtf." I've flown plenty of times before, just the past two times I've gotten worried.
Also... 2012. Someone mentioned it just a few minutes ago in SE++ and I associated that with the Mayan prophecy and all of that. Then reading the Wiki Article over all of the catastrophic prophecies I see that the Bible apparently says an asteroid is going to hit. I forget to connect 2012 with Eros. Now I'm just a big fucking wreck and don't know what to do. Death scares the piss out of me if I know it's going to happen, and... ugh! Someone help, please.
Drink on the flight? On the past few international flights I've been on, I just drink enough to go to sleep easily. I have a problem sleeping on planes. Not because of a fear, they're just the most uncomfortable seats ever. But that's just a suggestion. That could make you more paranoid. Anything that will pass the time. If it's a short flight, watch a movie.
Also... 2012. Someone mentioned it just a few minutes ago in SE++ and I associated that with the Mayan prophecy and all of that. Then reading the Wiki Article over all of the catastrophic prophecies I see that the Bible apparently says an asteroid is going to hit. I forget to connect 2012 with Eros. Now I'm just a big fucking wreck and don't know what to do. Death scares the piss out of me if I know it's going to happen, and... ugh! Someone help, please.
This is what happens when you hang out in SE++.
My suggestion is to read a book.
If - and that's a BIG if - something bad happens, you can't do anything about it, so why worry about it?
i dont have this problem, but perhaps you could just turn an ipod on pretty loud, sit at your seat with your eyes closed, and just pretend your somewhere else?
try not to focus on any sounds or feelings, just on the music...
Keep yourself occupied, yes. Also, keep someone calmer beside you, who can stabilize you.
Also, doomsday prophecies are a load of bull--there, I said it. Start packing, make sure you got your stuff, make a list of the things you want to buy... etc, etc.
Planes rarely crash in general, but it's really rare for one to crash on takeoff. It's happened, but you might as well spend your time worrying about getting hit by lightning, because that's going to be a much higher possibility.
Fear is not a good emotion. It can cause entire societies to do really stupid, batshit things that are actually much worse than the things they fear. In general, try to get rid of it as much as possible... just chill out and roll with the punches, and you'll be much happier overall, and in the exact same state as if you were constantly worried about things that
a) don't deserve worrying and
b) you can't control anyway.
You don't worry about the flight, but just the takeoff?
If I ever have something go wrong on a flight, I damn straight want it to go wrong on take off or landing rather than when I am 35,000ft in the air doing 700mph.
Think of it this way, if you gonna fall out a window, you want to fall from 1m or 50m
Why freak out about the end of the world? It's not the end of th--
Oh, right.
But seriously, think about it for a second. First of all, you're assuming it'll happen during your lifetime. Isn't that a little egocentric? Even if you were 100 years old, you'd only have been alive for 0.000002% of the Earth's existence. Hell, the entirety of human civilization has only been around for about 0.00012% of it. But as fate would have it, those two millionths of a percentage that are your entire life just so happen to have fallen at the precise time the the Earth explodes/implodes/[insert cataclysm here]. Really? What a coincidence, eh?
Second of all, even if you were one of the few billion people around for the end of humanity, what exactly are you going to do about it? As far as I'm concerned, worrying - fear, essentially - is a response that evolved out of its ability to keep/get us out of dangerous situations. Y'gonna get yourself out of the end of the world? It wouldn't be much of an apocalypse if you were, so you might as well rationalize things and realize your worries are unfounded.
There's a near infinite amount of things you could worry about, but to do so would be paranoia/hypochondria. It's normal if some slip through every now and again, but just realize that always worrying over the uncontrollable is a miserable way to live.
Same goes for the plane. The odds are against it, and even if you were unlucky enough to beat the odds, there's nothing you can do about it anyway.
the inevitable is by definition inevitable. why freak out about it.
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It's safer to go by plane than it is by car.
Keep that in mind.
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You're scared that the world is going to end in five years because the Mayan calendar stops there? And Bible-asteroids and Eros? Relax. Do you honestly think any of that is worth worrying about?
The Mayan calendar doesn't stop at 2012, it just resets. The mayan calendar is based on cycles. It's just the end of a rather major one, so a lot of people think something big will happen.
But it's arbitrary. 1999 was the end of an entire millennium and there was doom and gloom then. And nothing happened.
I was all about doomsday prophecies in high school, in the lead up to 2000. I constantly freaked out about THE BIBLE CODE and OMG THE BOOK SAIZ IT and it depressed me terribly. Now it's 2007 and I'm still here. And it depresses me terribly.
So just remember, the apocalypse, should it come, might just make a positive impact on your life.
The Mayan calendar doesn't stop at 2012, it just resets. The mayan calendar is based on cycles. It's just the end of a rather major one, so a lot of people think something big will happen.
But it's arbitrary. 1999 was the end of an entire millennium and there was doom and gloom then. And nothing happened.
Nothing... I guess, dramatic. Last time I flew in a plane I get nervous then, too. I'm just afraid something will happen to our flight. I know the chances are small, but I'm always a "What if"-guy. Didn't help I read about a lot of plane crashes on Wiki a second again and now I'm even more tense. We're going to a convention, a group of us, and I'm excited to go and want to.... I just wish we weren't flying. Once we lift off, I'm completely fine for the entirety of the trip... its just the initial "zomg wtf." I've flown plenty of times before, just the past two times I've gotten worried.
Also... 2012. Someone mentioned it just a few minutes ago in SE++ and I associated that with the Mayan prophecy and all of that. Then reading the Wiki Article over all of the catastrophic prophecies I see that the Bible apparently says an asteroid is going to hit. I forget to connect 2012 with Eros. Now I'm just a big fucking wreck and don't know what to do. Death scares the piss out of me if I know it's going to happen, and... ugh! Someone help, please.
Have you considered trying to look at more of a bright side to this endeavor? You might think about why the trip is a positive thing rather than how this could be your last day living. Are you visiting family? Is this for some business affair or work related trip? Perhaps you are going to visit a school or a friend that's important to you or your future? I think it would be helpful for us to know why you are making this trip, then you can also talk about why this is a good thing. If it isn't something you think is a great asset to your life, let us know what pros exist for this trip.
I'd suggest trying to think of why this is an important trip worth making by plane rather than why taking a plane is such a bad thing or why the future might be short. You could also use this as an opportunity to tell yourself that you plan on living your life to the fullest since you never know what might happen in the future. It sounds cheezy, but it does work for some people.
Okay, so unless you're going to be like Madden and only travel around via bus, you're going to have to get used to the idea of flying. I understand your anxiety about take off. I have a similar although probably less severe reaction to it and landing myself and I fly a LOT.
What I usually try to do is read, sleep, or force myself to relax if the other two don't work. The thing is, if you've already made the decision to fly, if they plane is going to crash (which you know it most likely isn't), there's not a hell of a lot you can do about it, so you might as well relax and not worry. The same goes for the Mayan thing. It's difficult to do, but you just have to let go of the things you can't control. Once you're able to do that, it's a lot easier to enjoy life in general.
I don't fly, cause I'm a scared little piss ant too. But I'm not scared of the end of the world... I will combat Armageddon with my Oh So Awesome Ninja Moves. Or at least not think of it until it happens.
The odds of you being in a plane crash on a major jumbo jet are, according to some statistics I just saw at a conference, about 1 in 4 million. That is, one crash occurs for every 4 million takeoffs. Not everyone dies in every crash so your odds are even better. Look around at the gray-haired pilots. Do they look worried?
With respect to the Mayan calendar:
Stop being retarded. The world is not going to end in 2012 and all prophecies (doomsday or otherwise) are full of shit.
The odds of you being in a plane crash on a major jumbo jet are, according to some statistics I just saw at a conference, about 1 in 4 million. That is, one crash occurs for every 4 million takeoffs. Not everyone dies in every crash so your odds are even better.
I have the actual chances of dying on a plane, to elaborate on your statistics. I have a professor that spends an exuberant amount of time studying and assessing risk. She came up with the following numbers (rough estimates, based off predictions made by the National Transportation Safety Board) for the chance of dying on a plane:
2003: 1 death out of every 30 million flights
2004: 1 death out of every 70 million flights
2005: 1 death out of every 40 million flights
2006: 1 death out of every 10 million flights
You get the idea. Over the last four years, your overall chance of dying on a flight is somewhere around 1 in every 37.5 million deaths. You're not going to fly 37.5 million flights any time soon, are you? :P
To put things even further in perspective, your odds of getting sick (note: sick, not dead) from peanut butter is one jar out of every 1,666.66 jars. That makes you about 22,500 times more likely to get from sick from peanut butter than you are to run into any real problems flying on a plane! Now, when's the last time you got sick from eating peanut butter? ;-)
To help put things even further into perspective, here is a table showing common risks in the US. Notice how
much lower they are than flying, and nearly all of these risks are things that you probably don't even think about (except, obviously, lung cancer from smoking; that one's kinda obvious.)
And because I find this stuff interesting, here is a chart showing how much being exposed to a particular risk is expected to shorten your life. These are constant exposures over a life time. So by flying every day of your life, you are expected to die about 1 day earlier than you would have died if you had never flown in your life. Try to put this stuff in perspective. You have absolutely nothing to worry about. Just close your window, put on some music, lean back in your seat and enjoy your flight. Maybe read the SkyMall.
Regarding the Mayan prediction that the world will end in 2012: keep in mind that this prediction was made a very, very long time ago. It's merely a prophecy, which means that it holds absolutely no scientific credibility, and therefore cannot be proven. If you are going to give this prediction credibility, then you might as well give all the cults in human history the same kind of credibility when they say that the world will end in x number of years; or all the people worrying about Y2K seven years ago; or all of the people screaming "the end is near!" Were they ever right? Nope. Why, then, should the Mayans be right? You have nothing to worry about here. You're just thinking about it too much; you're turning an anthill into a mountain, if you will. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy your life as you have it! 8-)
Help with what? You are neurotic and paranoid. Just relax, the plane goes down it goes down. There isn't a thing you can do about besides not going. And not going is a terrible philosopy of life if you can somehow help it.
not to quote superman but "statistically, flying is the safest way to travel."
think about it. how many car accidents do you hear about a day on the news? and how many planes?
exactly.
Yea, but most car accidents aren't really fatal.
A plane crash however, is one of the most horrific ways to die around. Imagine a wing snapping and just plunging hard probably for over a minute, and everything is tearing apart around you and people getting thrown around and shit.
A plane crash however, is one of the most horrific ways to die around. Imagine a wing snapping and just plunging hard probably for over a minute, and everything is tearing apart around you and people getting thrown around and shit.
You've never watched anybody die from cancer, or Alzheimer's disease, or emphysema, apparently.
I fell asleep to the in flight movie (007). Half hour later I woke up to the horrible noise of an explosion.
Don't do that.
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not to quote superman but "statistically, flying is the safest way to travel."
think about it. how many car accidents do you hear about a day on the news? and how many planes?
exactly.
Yea, but most car accidents aren't really fatal.
A plane crash however, is one of the most horrific ways to die around. Imagine a wing snapping and just plunging hard probably for over a minute, and everything is tearing apart around you and people getting thrown around and shit.
Why make up worst case scenarios that have probably never even happened?
I fell asleep to the in flight movie (007). Half hour later I woke up to the horrible noise of an explosion.
Don't do that.
This made me giggle.
Well, all I can say is thanks to everyone except the asshole who gave that horrible "WHAT-IF" situation. Keep it coming, though, I'm sure theres more to settle my nerves.
You'll be fine. If you're still agitated then take some valium or something right before you board.
Keep in mind that most accidents that occur during takeoff are non-fatal, and most planes are engineered for total evacuation in under 40 seconds. So if anything bad happens you will be off that plane in less than a minute.
You're scared that the world is going to end in five years because the Mayan calendar stops there? And Bible-asteroids and Eros? Relax. Do you honestly think any of that is worth worrying about?
good thing he doesn't know about how Gigasatan will return and unleash Metasatan upon the feeble masses...
A plane crash however, is one of the most horrific ways to die around. Imagine a wing snapping and just plunging hard probably for over a minute, and everything is tearing apart around you and people getting thrown around and shit.
You obviously haven't seen somebody who's eaten a tack-filled muffin and been ripped apart by rabid kittens.
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not to quote superman but "statistically, flying is the safest way to travel."
think about it. how many car accidents do you hear about a day on the news? and how many planes?
exactly.
Yea, but most car accidents aren't really fatal.
A plane crash however, is one of the most horrific ways to die around. Imagine a wing snapping and just plunging hard probably for over a minute, and everything is tearing apart around you and people getting thrown around and shit.
If that happens you'll die instaneously on impact, pain free death.
If that happens just whip it out and start jerking it off right there.
Then all the passengers will see you beating it off and they'll start beating it off as well.
Just hope the hydraulics don't kick in.
Someone I know made a great comment about people being scared of terrorist attacks and this applies here as well.
There are more people in america and canada that are afraid of sharks than deer, yet deers kill more people there per year than sharks do. Does it sound ridiculous now? Because it is. Just keep telling yourself, fuck being scared it's a waste of emotion I'm going to do something awesome and I can't be bothered dealing with this pissweak emotion.
I used to be terrified of the take-off portion of the plane ride. I found out it's because of that sinking feeling when the plane finally gets aloft and the back portion of the plane drops a bit. Now, I make sure all my seats are on the wing or in front of it. It takes a lot of the tension out of take-offs, although I guess it won't help if you're just scared of the crashing bit.
On long flights, where I am sure to start thinking about being in an inescapable enclosure, I take a sleeping pill and sleep it out. My frequent trips to Germany were made much easier by an Ambien as I boarded the plane. Of course, I'm not allowed in the emergency row, but small price to pay. And plus, it keeps me out of the airplane bathrooms, which serve as more tension, merely on the germophobe level. I agree with the Benedryl, mostly. My sister took it on one flight, however, and she was wired for hours, which may make it worse.
Music also helps. It makes me forget about the sometimes crushing pressure on my ear drums.
If you can find a way to sleep during the trip, it will make the rides easier, but I guess eventually, importance will override fear. I got on the plane because visiting my fiancee at the time was more important than my fear. It didn't stop the fear, I guess, which is what you're going for, but just for perspective.
Move seats, music, sleeping pills. You'll find something that helps you.
not to quote superman but "statistically, flying is the safest way to travel."
think about it. how many car accidents do you hear about a day on the news? and how many planes?
exactly.
Yea, but most car accidents aren't really fatal.
A plane crash however, is one of the most horrific ways to die around. Imagine a wing snapping and just plunging hard probably for over a minute, and everything is tearing apart around you and people getting thrown around and shit.
If that happens you'll die instaneously on impact, pain free death.
If that happens just whip it out and start jerking it off right there.
Then all the passengers will see you beating it off and they'll start beating it off as well.
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Basically, stay occupied.
This is what happens when you hang out in SE++.
My suggestion is to read a book.
If - and that's a BIG if - something bad happens, you can't do anything about it, so why worry about it?
Seriously
Ask yourself if you get worried when out in a car?
try not to focus on any sounds or feelings, just on the music...
sorry im not very helpful..
good luck!
Keep yourself occupied, yes. Also, keep someone calmer beside you, who can stabilize you.
Also, doomsday prophecies are a load of bull--there, I said it. Start packing, make sure you got your stuff, make a list of the things you want to buy... etc, etc.
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Fear is not a good emotion. It can cause entire societies to do really stupid, batshit things that are actually much worse than the things they fear. In general, try to get rid of it as much as possible... just chill out and roll with the punches, and you'll be much happier overall, and in the exact same state as if you were constantly worried about things that
a) don't deserve worrying and
b) you can't control anyway.
If I ever have something go wrong on a flight, I damn straight want it to go wrong on take off or landing rather than when I am 35,000ft in the air doing 700mph.
Think of it this way, if you gonna fall out a window, you want to fall from 1m or 50m
Oh, right.
But seriously, think about it for a second. First of all, you're assuming it'll happen during your lifetime. Isn't that a little egocentric? Even if you were 100 years old, you'd only have been alive for 0.000002% of the Earth's existence. Hell, the entirety of human civilization has only been around for about 0.00012% of it. But as fate would have it, those two millionths of a percentage that are your entire life just so happen to have fallen at the precise time the the Earth explodes/implodes/[insert cataclysm here]. Really? What a coincidence, eh?
Second of all, even if you were one of the few billion people around for the end of humanity, what exactly are you going to do about it? As far as I'm concerned, worrying - fear, essentially - is a response that evolved out of its ability to keep/get us out of dangerous situations. Y'gonna get yourself out of the end of the world? It wouldn't be much of an apocalypse if you were, so you might as well rationalize things and realize your worries are unfounded.
There's a near infinite amount of things you could worry about, but to do so would be paranoia/hypochondria. It's normal if some slip through every now and again, but just realize that always worrying over the uncontrollable is a miserable way to live.
Same goes for the plane. The odds are against it, and even if you were unlucky enough to beat the odds, there's nothing you can do about it anyway.
Keep that in mind.
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But it's arbitrary. 1999 was the end of an entire millennium and there was doom and gloom then. And nothing happened.
So just remember, the apocalypse, should it come, might just make a positive impact on your life.
Or... did it?
Have you considered trying to look at more of a bright side to this endeavor? You might think about why the trip is a positive thing rather than how this could be your last day living. Are you visiting family? Is this for some business affair or work related trip? Perhaps you are going to visit a school or a friend that's important to you or your future? I think it would be helpful for us to know why you are making this trip, then you can also talk about why this is a good thing. If it isn't something you think is a great asset to your life, let us know what pros exist for this trip.
I'd suggest trying to think of why this is an important trip worth making by plane rather than why taking a plane is such a bad thing or why the future might be short. You could also use this as an opportunity to tell yourself that you plan on living your life to the fullest since you never know what might happen in the future. It sounds cheezy, but it does work for some people.
What I usually try to do is read, sleep, or force myself to relax if the other two don't work. The thing is, if you've already made the decision to fly, if they plane is going to crash (which you know it most likely isn't), there's not a hell of a lot you can do about it, so you might as well relax and not worry. The same goes for the Mayan thing. It's difficult to do, but you just have to let go of the things you can't control. Once you're able to do that, it's a lot easier to enjoy life in general.
The odds of you being in a plane crash on a major jumbo jet are, according to some statistics I just saw at a conference, about 1 in 4 million. That is, one crash occurs for every 4 million takeoffs. Not everyone dies in every crash so your odds are even better. Look around at the gray-haired pilots. Do they look worried?
With respect to the Mayan calendar:
Stop being retarded. The world is not going to end in 2012 and all prophecies (doomsday or otherwise) are full of shit.
- 2003: 1 death out of every 30 million flights
- 2004: 1 death out of every 70 million flights
- 2005: 1 death out of every 40 million flights
- 2006: 1 death out of every 10 million flights
You get the idea. Over the last four years, your overall chance of dying on a flight is somewhere around 1 in every 37.5 million deaths. You're not going to fly 37.5 million flights any time soon, are you? :PTo put things even further in perspective, your odds of getting sick (note: sick, not dead) from peanut butter is one jar out of every 1,666.66 jars. That makes you about 22,500 times more likely to get from sick from peanut butter than you are to run into any real problems flying on a plane! Now, when's the last time you got sick from eating peanut butter? ;-)
To help put things even further into perspective, here is a table showing common risks in the US. Notice how
much lower they are than flying, and nearly all of these risks are things that you probably don't even think about (except, obviously, lung cancer from smoking; that one's kinda obvious.)
And because I find this stuff interesting, here is a chart showing how much being exposed to a particular risk is expected to shorten your life. These are constant exposures over a life time. So by flying every day of your life, you are expected to die about 1 day earlier than you would have died if you had never flown in your life. Try to put this stuff in perspective. You have absolutely nothing to worry about. Just close your window, put on some music, lean back in your seat and enjoy your flight. Maybe read the SkyMall.
Regarding the Mayan prediction that the world will end in 2012: keep in mind that this prediction was made a very, very long time ago. It's merely a prophecy, which means that it holds absolutely no scientific credibility, and therefore cannot be proven. If you are going to give this prediction credibility, then you might as well give all the cults in human history the same kind of credibility when they say that the world will end in x number of years; or all the people worrying about Y2K seven years ago; or all of the people screaming "the end is near!" Were they ever right? Nope. Why, then, should the Mayans be right? You have nothing to worry about here. You're just thinking about it too much; you're turning an anthill into a mountain, if you will. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy your life as you have it! 8-)
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think about it. how many car accidents do you hear about a day on the news? and how many planes?
exactly.
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Yea, but most car accidents aren't really fatal.
A plane crash however, is one of the most horrific ways to die around. Imagine a wing snapping and just plunging hard probably for over a minute, and everything is tearing apart around you and people getting thrown around and shit.
You've never watched anybody die from cancer, or Alzheimer's disease, or emphysema, apparently.
Don't do that.
This made me giggle.
Well, all I can say is thanks to everyone except the asshole who gave that horrible "WHAT-IF" situation. Keep it coming, though, I'm sure theres more to settle my nerves.
Keep in mind that most accidents that occur during takeoff are non-fatal, and most planes are engineered for total evacuation in under 40 seconds. So if anything bad happens you will be off that plane in less than a minute.
You obviously haven't seen somebody who's eaten a tack-filled muffin and been ripped apart by rabid kittens.
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If that happens you'll die instaneously on impact, pain free death.
If that happens just whip it out and start jerking it off right there.
Then all the passengers will see you beating it off and they'll start beating it off as well.
Just hope the hydraulics don't kick in.
Someone I know made a great comment about people being scared of terrorist attacks and this applies here as well.
There are more people in america and canada that are afraid of sharks than deer, yet deers kill more people there per year than sharks do. Does it sound ridiculous now? Because it is. Just keep telling yourself, fuck being scared it's a waste of emotion I'm going to do something awesome and I can't be bothered dealing with this pissweak emotion.
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On long flights, where I am sure to start thinking about being in an inescapable enclosure, I take a sleeping pill and sleep it out. My frequent trips to Germany were made much easier by an Ambien as I boarded the plane. Of course, I'm not allowed in the emergency row, but small price to pay. And plus, it keeps me out of the airplane bathrooms, which serve as more tension, merely on the germophobe level. I agree with the Benedryl, mostly. My sister took it on one flight, however, and she was wired for hours, which may make it worse.
Music also helps. It makes me forget about the sometimes crushing pressure on my ear drums.
If you can find a way to sleep during the trip, it will make the rides easier, but I guess eventually, importance will override fear. I got on the plane because visiting my fiancee at the time was more important than my fear. It didn't stop the fear, I guess, which is what you're going for, but just for perspective.
Move seats, music, sleeping pills. You'll find something that helps you.
One question; do I get off?