the spineless cowards of the dnc had 50 years to build up a better defense for human rights than going "well hope no one in the court changes their mind lol" and they sat down and they jerked off
Once again, I want to jump into the this thread early to make sure everyone remembers that these forums are publicly indexed and to be careful with your words
Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
Can't wait for them to go after contraception next. Then making past abortions illegal. Right to privacy, etc. Fuckin' shame no one in Congress ever thought to codify those rights into law at any point in the last 50 years.
Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
I would say that waiting for some hypothetical better court is not an option, and that the Democratic party has to sort their shit out immediately or fail an entire generation of people. They aren't going to stop with abortion, they're going after whatever they can get their hands on.
Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
Probably. That would also depend on the Dems having spines, which is not a smart bet.
Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
I would say that waiting for some hypothetical better court is not an option, and that the Democratic party has to sort their shit out immediately or fail an entire generation of people. They aren't going to stop with abortion, they're going after whatever they can get their hands on.
The democratic party either immediately deals with this in whatever way they can, or the democratic party ceases to exist as the voting bloc supporting it finds politicians that can.
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I can't help but think that if access to legal abortion and same-sex marriage are lost while the democratic party holds control of the white house, the senate, and the house that's... I don't see how the party survives that.
the gop is a christian fascist cult and the DNC goes out drinking with them
it is time to show that they have even the slightest understanding of the real world that the rest of us live in, or it is time for them to open the lost ark at the end of indiana jones
I can't help but think that if access to legal abortion and same-sex marriage are lost while the democratic party holds control of the white house, the senate, and the house that's... I don't see how the party survives that.
How they ought to survive that.
they'll survive by still being better than the gop
I can't help but think that if access to legal abortion and same-sex marriage are lost while the democratic party holds control of the white house, the senate, and the house that's... I don't see how the party survives that.
How they ought to survive that.
Like I said, either deal with it immediately or cease to exist as political organization with any actual power and authority.
Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
Democracy and electoralism will not save us. The Democrats are fascists as surely as the Right, just one favors corporatism and the other a 'Christian'* death cult.
But like Gnome said, they are so afraid of protests they've written laws making them functionally illegal for non-white fascists. Taking it in front of their churches, in front of their offices, in front of the country clubs and yacht docks is the only thing that's going to make them uncomfortable enough to relent.
if they sit on their nuts and are like "well it's still under deliberation we're not gonna comment on it it's not proper" they lose right then and there
Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
I would say that waiting for some hypothetical better court is not an option, and that the Democratic party has to sort their shit out immediately or fail an entire generation of people. They aren't going to stop with abortion, they're going after whatever they can get their hands on.
Not gonna lie, I forgot the Democrats can technically sidestep this ruling and codify access to legal abortions (among other things) into law. Because they've done so little up to now they never registered as an actual realistic option. Or at least not while Manchin can block stuff. Maybe Sinema too, I can't get a bead on her lunacy.
Once again, I want to jump into the this thread early to make sure everyone remembers that these forums are publicly indexed and to be careful with your words
Wishing for a Robots.txt but for specific posts, then, because I sure got a lot of shit that shouldn't be indexed to say about the supreme court
I can't help but think that if access to legal abortion and same-sex marriage are lost while the democratic party holds control of the white house, the senate, and the house that's... I don't see how the party survives that.
How they ought to survive that.
This supreme court doesn't give a SHIT about any of that
They'll do whatever the fuck they want and overturn whatever the fuck they feel like, Congressional law or whatever
Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
I would say that waiting for some hypothetical better court is not an option, and that the Democratic party has to sort their shit out immediately or fail an entire generation of people. They aren't going to stop with abortion, they're going after whatever they can get their hands on.
Not gonna lie, I forgot the Democrats can technically sidestep this ruling and codify access to legal abortions (among other things) into law. Because they've done so little up to now they never registered as an actual realistic option. Or at least not while Manchin can block stuff. Maybe Sinema too, I can't get a bead on her lunacy.
and it's crazy that the supreme court is deciding this shit! Congress should be deciding this shit! FFS, dems better step up. Even fucking collins should step up and make it a law.
Yeah this shows that all bets are off. I did not expect them to take the shot, as conservatives are hypocritical ghouls who secretly want abortion to avoid any family incidents from becoming public, but this shows they give no fucks.
If democrats think they can keep relying on the threat of shit getting worse to protect, as shit actively gets worse on their watch, then the party will die as pissed-off people overthrow the party of decaying, useless boomers and their lickspittles that are just Diet Corporate Bootlicks.
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Cool
cool, cool, cool, cool, cool
very cool and not at all terrifying
Can't wait for all the think pieces blaming this on Bernie and progressives who were less than thrilled to have to vote for Biden, but did anyway, and who dare - DARE, I SAY! - voice their disappointment over his bullshit broken promises and general uselessness in the face of the unwavering tide of fascism
"B-But, Sinema! And Manchin! Just vote!" Fuck you, and fuck your dumbass party
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There were like, a lot of people in law school with me who kept arguing, "no its ridiculous, they would never overturn something with that much precedent".
And I kept telling them they were POSs but they kept up with the same bullshit.
Can't wait for all the think pieces blaming this on Bernie and progressives who were less than thrilled to have to vote for Biden, but did anyway, and who dare - DARE, I SAY! - voice their disappointment over his bullshit broken promises and general uselessness in the face of the unwavering tide of fascism
"B-But, Sinema! And Manchin! Just vote!" Fuck you, and fuck your dumbass party
i've already seen people going "we warned you in 2016"
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I'm really really angry
Also can't wait for the democrats who control literally every other branch of government to do exactly fuck all about this
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Where do we go from here? Zero chance of fixing this with the current court lineup, so the legal avenue is out as far as I'm aware. Is the only solution available being to wait for the conservative side to die off and hope it's during a period Democrats have the Presidency and Senate majority so their seats are more likely to be filled by liberal judges then challenging again however many years from now that future moment is if it ever even comes to pass?
I would say that waiting for some hypothetical better court is not an option, and that the Democratic party has to sort their shit out immediately or fail an entire generation of people. They aren't going to stop with abortion, they're going after whatever they can get their hands on.
Probably. That would also depend on the Dems having spines, which is not a smart bet.
The democratic party either immediately deals with this in whatever way they can, or the democratic party ceases to exist as the voting bloc supporting it finds politicians that can.
How they ought to survive that.
And that's gone tonight as they strip away people's rights.
Communicate, Organize, Contest.
it is time to show that they have even the slightest understanding of the real world that the rest of us live in, or it is time for them to open the lost ark at the end of indiana jones
they'll survive by still being better than the gop
but they probably won't ever be in power again
Like I said, either deal with it immediately or cease to exist as political organization with any actual power and authority.
Democracy and electoralism will not save us. The Democrats are fascists as surely as the Right, just one favors corporatism and the other a 'Christian'* death cult.
But like Gnome said, they are so afraid of protests they've written laws making them functionally illegal for non-white fascists. Taking it in front of their churches, in front of their offices, in front of the country clubs and yacht docks is the only thing that's going to make them uncomfortable enough to relent.
Not gonna lie, I forgot the Democrats can technically sidestep this ruling and codify access to legal abortions (among other things) into law. Because they've done so little up to now they never registered as an actual realistic option. Or at least not while Manchin can block stuff. Maybe Sinema too, I can't get a bead on her lunacy.
Wishing for a Robots.txt but for specific posts, then, because I sure got a lot of shit that shouldn't be indexed to say about the supreme court
This supreme court doesn't give a SHIT about any of that
They'll do whatever the fuck they want and overturn whatever the fuck they feel like, Congressional law or whatever
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and it's crazy that the supreme court is deciding this shit! Congress should be deciding this shit! FFS, dems better step up. Even fucking collins should step up and make it a law.
I don't handle anger well believe it or not. Tend to push it down whenever I feel it but right now it's the alternative to deep sadness.
Other than that I don't have anything else to say. Wish I had something constructive to put this energy into.
If democrats think they can keep relying on the threat of shit getting worse to protect, as shit actively gets worse on their watch, then the party will die as pissed-off people overthrow the party of decaying, useless boomers and their lickspittles that are just Diet Corporate Bootlicks.
barack obama!!! the guy who came into the office in 2009!!!!
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I would put money on some dnc organizers getting giddy at this news because think of all the fundraising this could drive. The fucking ghouls.
cool, cool, cool, cool, cool
very cool and not at all terrifying
Can't wait for all the think pieces blaming this on Bernie and progressives who were less than thrilled to have to vote for Biden, but did anyway, and who dare - DARE, I SAY! - voice their disappointment over his bullshit broken promises and general uselessness in the face of the unwavering tide of fascism
"B-But, Sinema! And Manchin! Just vote!" Fuck you, and fuck your dumbass party
And I kept telling them they were POSs but they kept up with the same bullshit.
I do not feel great about this development.
i've already seen people going "we warned you in 2016"
CLINTON'S RUNNING MATE WAS ANTI-ABORTION DOGGS