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Two thoughts:
1. There are like, 7 chaos factions presently in game.
2. Chaos dwarves were basically forgotten by GW for over a decade.
GW forgot them, but Forgeworld didn’t. They released a full rostered army for Chaos Dwarves (Legions of Azgorh). Which is very likely what CA will use if/when they add them.
CA isn't allowed to just add things. Everything has to be approved by GW before it goes into the game. This is why they won't say if Ind or Khuresh will be added down the road: they want to, by GW has not approved them to do so. So, if GW said "No Forgeworld Chaos Dwarfs" then there is nothing CA can do about it.
Sure, but the fact that they’re Forgeworld isn’t an automatic disqualification.
War Mammoths, Skinwolves, Fimir and Wolf Rats, Dread Saurian, Necrofex Colossus, Mournguls, Rogue Idols and more I’m probably forgetting were all Forgeworld, either directly using their miniature design or the artwork.
Given those all made it, I’d say the fact the Legion of Azgorh being Forgeworld would be the least considered reason to it add them.
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FencingsaxIt is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understandingGNU Terry PratchettRegistered Userregular
Everybody kind of assumes Chaos Dwarves are the first post IE DLC. I imagine there are a lot of reasons for the order they are releasing in
Two thoughts:
1. There are like, 7 chaos factions presently in game.
2. Chaos dwarves were basically forgotten by GW for over a decade.
GW forgot them, but Forgeworld didn’t. They released a full rostered army for Chaos Dwarves (Legions of Azgorh). Which is very likely what CA will use if/when they add them.
I'm not even sure it was that they forgot them so much as... well... Their lore kind of fucked them.
Like, they were evil dwarves (this is fine) who liked slavery (sure, they're evil and they love it) who were in the midddle of nowhere (Less fine) and focused pretty much on defense as opposed to expansion beyond sporadic raids (Getting worse) that went as far as... the borders of kislev (Which for most of WH's history could be generously described as the tip of the longest hair on the ass end of nowhere).
So aside from fights with orcs and on rare occasions real dwarves they simply didn't interact with any of the other factions in a meaningful way.
The Chaos Dwarfs were in the OG game one datamine, so they've always been planned.
Plus, a datamined game three faction introduction voiceover tells someone to be wary of the Legions of Azgorh: "Exercise caution my lord, for your scouts bring word of Chaos Dwarfs nearby. The Legion of Azgorh are a callous and black-hearted foe, bearing little resemblance to their untainted cousins to the west. Keep your weapons close at hand."
If you aren't so hot on the price of the new DLC, fanatical has a sale that last for about 10 more hours that has it at 25% off if that helps anyone at all.
surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
dude greasus goldtooth walking into the domain of slaanesh and resisting all the carnal pleasures because he just wants a really big chicken nugget and they keep offering him sexy time
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LokiDon't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining.Registered Userregular
The Chaos Dwarfs were in the OG game one datamine, so they've always been planned.
Plus, a datamined game three faction introduction voiceover tells someone to be wary of the Legions of Azgorh: "Exercise caution my lord, for your scouts bring word of Chaos Dwarfs nearby. The Legion of Azgorh are a callous and black-hearted foe, bearing little resemblance to their untainted cousins to the west. Keep your weapons close at hand."
In my head I automatically read that in crow boys voice. Probably the most iconic part of the Warhammer games by now.
If you aren't so hot on the price of the new DLC, fanatical has a sale that last for about 10 more hours that has it at 25% off if that helps anyone at all.
IIRC Fanatical doesn't given the key until release day
If you aren't so hot on the price of the new DLC, fanatical has a sale that last for about 10 more hours that has it at 25% off if that helps anyone at all.
LokiDon't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining.Registered Userregular
IIRC Fanatical have a ‘loading bar’ and a timer.
The timer is the time left, the bar is the keys left.
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LokiDon't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining.Registered Userregular
Speaking of Forgeworld, I still wish they'd do a Feral Beasts DLC using the monsters in Monstrous Arcanum that won't make it into a DLC pack. Add a special recruitment tab that's randomly available in certain regions and add them as beast hunts for Norsca and Rakarth.
Because there's some cool shit in there. Basilisk, Carmine Dragon, Dread Maw, Magma Dragon, Toad Dragon, Merwyrm, Warpfire Dragon, Preyton... Just so much fodder for a cool DLC that you could add to all races.
surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
if ur first action as grand cathay is not immediately obliterating ur brother and ignoring his increasingly desperate pleas for mercy then ur not doing it right
if ur first action as grand cathay is not immediately obliterating ur brother and ignoring his increasingly desperate pleas for mercy then ur not doing it right
Disagree, but only because done right you can secure the Snake Gate on turn 2 if you summon a new legendary lord on turn 1, and you can't reach the little brother until Turn 3 or 4 due to distance.
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
also do u ever think that dark elves kind of get frustrated that theyre trying to be edgy but then they are just less chaosy chaos like
yea yea ur evil slags but ur not literally demons so u surely understand everybody knows its just a phase
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surrealitychecklonely, but not unloveddreaming of faulty keys and latchesRegistered Userregular
also does anybody else ever adopt some skaven
u just give them money, keep their provinces free of badmans (close their rifts, keep agents around to get rid of enemy spies) and give them settlements and do their contracts
and when u talk to them u always compliment the tail size
u just give them money, keep their provinces free of badmans (close their rifts, keep agents around to get rid of enemy spies) and give them settlements and do their contracts
and when u talk to them u always compliment the tail size
I kill them ASAP because they keep shitting on my lawn.
That's my right dammit.
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
u just give them money, keep their provinces free of badmans (close their rifts, keep agents around to get rid of enemy spies) and give them settlements and do their contracts
and when u talk to them u always compliment the tail size
Actually yes, because every army is improved by plagueclaw catapults
if ur first action as grand cathay is not immediately obliterating ur brother and ignoring his increasingly desperate pleas for mercy then ur not doing it right
What if I want to confederate my bro so I can have two dragons?
if ur first action as grand cathay is not immediately obliterating ur brother and ignoring his increasingly desperate pleas for mercy then ur not doing it right
What if I want to confederate my bro so I can have two dragons?
Double Dragons? In this economy?
"The only way to get rid of a temptation is to give into it." - Oscar Wilde
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
if ur first action as grand cathay is not immediately obliterating ur brother and ignoring his increasingly desperate pleas for mercy then ur not doing it right
What if I want to confederate my bro so I can have two dragons?
I'm not sure it was possible the last time I played Cathay. There was such a massive hidden penalty to confederate him that it was near impossible.
The map looks gorgeous. I'm still worried about map performance with all those particle effects, especially around Kislev and the empire but damn. Cathay was stunning. That canal! Ulthuan, Lustria, the Southlands are all just beautiful.
The empire is still the empire I guess. Never been a big fan of them anyway. It looked alright.
if ur first action as grand cathay is not immediately obliterating ur brother and ignoring his increasingly desperate pleas for mercy then ur not doing it right
What if I want to confederate my bro so I can have two dragons?
I'm not sure it was possible the last time I played Cathay. There was such a massive hidden penalty to confederate him that it was near impossible.
It IS possible, but tough. I saw a method that I replicated, which was: get him to or keep him at one province, borrow an army of his and get it fucking wrecked and then threaten him into confederation. It doesn't work every time, but in the same situation he turned down over a million gold, so it may be the only real way.
Yeah I forgot what exactly happened for me to finally confederate the last of the major Kislev cities (the port, forgot the name) but that minor faction went from a huge super power in the region to having just a handful of settlements and so suddenly became laughably easy to confederate.
I can see making that work but will have to do it...sneakily...also keeping them from being wiped out so I don't lose lil bro to the void.
Edit: Just remembered the supporter push giving you a huge addition to Kislev factions so that probably played a role as well.
if ur first action as grand cathay is not immediately obliterating ur brother and ignoring his increasingly desperate pleas for mercy then ur not doing it right
What if I want to confederate my bro so I can have two dragons?
As always: theres a mod for that! Theres one that makes it so that as soon as you hit 150 reputation you can get people to just throw in with you as long as their organization is able to confederate with you (IE Miao and Zhao or any of the various cathay factions) and needless to say it makes life *so much better*
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SpectrumArcher of InfernoChaldea Rec RoomRegistered Userregular
It IS possible, but tough. I saw a method that I replicated, which was: get him to or keep him at one province, borrow an army of his and get it fucking wrecked and then threaten him into confederation. It doesn't work every time, but in the same situation he turned down over a million gold, so it may be the only real way.
You don't have to get him down to 1 region but close enough. Making sure that his main army just get wiped and borrowing another (don't need to get it wrecked) and you should be in threaten range at that point, presuming you have the rest of Cathay.
CA is aware this penalty of his was overtuned, so theoretically it should get adjusted in the next patch, if not the one after.
when khalida captures a settlement she says "my queendom expands"
we love a toxic girlboss
Khalida has always had a ridiculously shitty start; in the vortttex map she's sandwhiched between teheno who starts the game fucking jacked and teclis who has everything he needs to body you while impassable mountains and a bunch of asshole pirates are to your south.
Meanwhile in the ME map she starts in a minor settlement (just... why?) squaring off against vampires and then has Kroq-gar coming for her along with sometimes malus and/or queek.
So by all means yuck it up when things are working for you Khalida.
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dam... really makes u thonk... i like ketchup but i hate fruit and vegetal...
Sure, but the fact that they’re Forgeworld isn’t an automatic disqualification.
War Mammoths, Skinwolves, Fimir and Wolf Rats, Dread Saurian, Necrofex Colossus, Mournguls, Rogue Idols and more I’m probably forgetting were all Forgeworld, either directly using their miniature design or the artwork.
Given those all made it, I’d say the fact the Legion of Azgorh being Forgeworld would be the least considered reason to it add them.
I'm not even sure it was that they forgot them so much as... well... Their lore kind of fucked them.
Like, they were evil dwarves (this is fine) who liked slavery (sure, they're evil and they love it) who were in the midddle of nowhere (Less fine) and focused pretty much on defense as opposed to expansion beyond sporadic raids (Getting worse) that went as far as... the borders of kislev (Which for most of WH's history could be generously described as the tip of the longest hair on the ass end of nowhere).
So aside from fights with orcs and on rare occasions real dwarves they simply didn't interact with any of the other factions in a meaningful way.
Plus, a datamined game three faction introduction voiceover tells someone to be wary of the Legions of Azgorh: "Exercise caution my lord, for your scouts bring word of Chaos Dwarfs nearby. The Legion of Azgorh are a callous and black-hearted foe, bearing little resemblance to their untainted cousins to the west. Keep your weapons close at hand."
In my head I automatically read that in crow boys voice. Probably the most iconic part of the Warhammer games by now.
IIRC Fanatical doesn't given the key until release day
Some other sites with current deals.
Though they may be same deal
That 12 is Days, not hours.
The timer is the time left, the bar is the keys left.
Because there's some cool shit in there. Basilisk, Carmine Dragon, Dread Maw, Magma Dragon, Toad Dragon, Merwyrm, Warpfire Dragon, Preyton... Just so much fodder for a cool DLC that you could add to all races.
Man that trailer gave me chills.
Laughed at the scurrying Skaven and "Daniel"
Disagree, but only because done right you can secure the Snake Gate on turn 2 if you summon a new legendary lord on turn 1, and you can't reach the little brother until Turn 3 or 4 due to distance.
yea yea ur evil slags but ur not literally demons so u surely understand everybody knows its just a phase
u just give them money, keep their provinces free of badmans (close their rifts, keep agents around to get rid of enemy spies) and give them settlements and do their contracts
and when u talk to them u always compliment the tail size
I kill them ASAP because they keep shitting on my lawn.
That's my right dammit.
What if I want to confederate my bro so I can have two dragons?
Double Dragons? In this economy?
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
I'm not sure it was possible the last time I played Cathay. There was such a massive hidden penalty to confederate him that it was near impossible.
I'm hyped.
The map looks gorgeous. I'm still worried about map performance with all those particle effects, especially around Kislev and the empire but damn. Cathay was stunning. That canal!
The empire is still the empire I guess. Never been a big fan of them anyway. It looked alright.
I can see making that work but will have to do it...sneakily...also keeping them from being wiped out so I don't lose lil bro to the void.
Edit: Just remembered the supporter push giving you a huge addition to Kislev factions so that probably played a role as well.
As always: theres a mod for that! Theres one that makes it so that as soon as you hit 150 reputation you can get people to just throw in with you as long as their organization is able to confederate with you (IE Miao and Zhao or any of the various cathay factions) and needless to say it makes life *so much better*
CA is aware this penalty of his was overtuned, so theoretically it should get adjusted in the next patch, if not the one after.
GIVE ME SKELEPOPE!
we love a toxic girlboss
Meanwhile in the ME map she starts in a minor settlement (just... why?) squaring off against vampires and then has Kroq-gar coming for her along with sometimes malus and/or queek.
So by all means yuck it up when things are working for you Khalida.