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All the Other [Infectious Diseases] that Aren't COVID-19

MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
This is the thread for all the other goddamn plagues and developing pandemics spreading around the world, from monkeypox to polio to the Marburg virus outbreak and the many strains of bird flus wiping out wild bird populations but not quite jumping to humans yet and whatever else comes up in this dying dystopian world - aside from COVID-19 which has its own thread that already exists.

If/when the next pandemic becomes a full pandemic that disease can be split off.

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  • spool32spool32 Contrary Library Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Cross-pollination spot for the HF&M misery posts from the parenthood thread. Those folks need sympathy!

  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Also this coming Northern Hemisphere winter is likely to be a bad flu season seeing as Australia is having the worst flu season in years and what happens in Australia gets reflected in the north some months later. Don't forget your flu shots on top of all the other things because the antivaxxers sure won't be getting any shots.

  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Polio has been circulating since at least February in London and the strain in New York (circulating since probably May) is related to that strain...and one found in sewage in Israel in January. Because, you know, diseases don't care about international boundaries and we have an interconnected world with easy travel and all that.


    You would not be surprised to learn that antivaxxers are celebrating the spread of polio because of course they are.

  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Central OhioRegistered User regular
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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Polio has been circulating since at least February in London and the strain in New York (circulating since probably May) is related to that strain...and one found in sewage in Israel in January. Because, you know, diseases don't care about international boundaries and we have an interconnected world with easy travel and all that.


    You would not be surprised to learn that antivaxxers are celebrating the spread of polio because of course they are.

    I can sort of grasp people being stupid about COVID. It's new. Polio though, that baby has history, panache, street cred.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
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  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    edited September 2022
    Polio has now been detected in five New York counties and the governor has declared a state emergency in the hopes of keeping it from spreading further.

    It might already have spread further without detection though, since polio is being found in the sewage and most places don't have sewage disease monitoring.

    Mayabird on
  • GiantGeek2020GiantGeek2020 Registered User regular
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Polio has now been detected in five New York counties and the governor has declared a state emergency in the hopes of it spreading further.

    It might already have spread further without detection though, since polio is being found in the sewage and most places don't have sewage disease monitoring.

    Is this commentary about American disease management?

    Because if so, yeah. Yeah that, that's probably fair,

  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    I corrected it, but yeah, basically expecting polio to be endemic again in this country, when it had been eradicated for decades.

    Two days after those "you do you" masking signs.

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Yeah, Orange and Rockland counties are only around 60% vaccinated against Polio.

    That's not a good number for effectively preventing the spread of a contagious disease.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • archivistkitsunearchivistkitsune Registered User regular
    Sigh, yet another thing I need to check my medical records. Fuck anti-vaxxers!

  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Yeah, Orange and Rockland counties are only around 60% vaccinated against Polio.

    That's not a good number for effectively preventing the spread of a contagious disease.

    Yeah, this is literally 100% the fault of not enough vaccinated people. Nothing else is really relevant. Polio will spread until it hits about 80% infected or vaccinated and then become stable, and trend towards elimination if 90% are vaccinated or previously infected.

    Don't want this to happen? Get vaccinated and avoid those who aren't.

    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Why is polio vaccination rate so low? I checked, and the polio vaccine was given to my child (9) as part of the standard vaccinations that she got at the pediatrician in NY.

  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Why is polio vaccination rate so low? I checked, and the polio vaccine was given to my child (9) as part of the standard vaccinations that she got at the pediatrician in NY.

    Antivaxxers + kids missing vaccines because of covid.

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    It's not federally mandated and was being phased out since it was no longer endemic. Plus there was that incident in the 1950s

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    IIRC there was also a big hot spot of quackery in the downstate/upstate border regions like Orange. The North Country in NY also has a slightly better but still low rate but the North Country is pretty fucking empty and rural.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    Why is polio vaccination rate so low? I checked, and the polio vaccine was given to my child (9) as part of the standard vaccinations that she got at the pediatrician in NY.

    A lot of ultra-orthodox Jewish people in NY are either anti-vaccine, or vaccine neutral enough to not care to get it. They often don't send their kids to public schools, so there isn't the requirement.

    If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Why is polio vaccination rate so low? I checked, and the polio vaccine was given to my child (9) as part of the standard vaccinations that she got at the pediatrician in NY.

    A lot of ultra-orthodox Jewish people in NY are either anti-vaccine, or vaccine neutral enough to not care to get it. They often don't send their kids to public schools, so there isn't the requirement.

    And, at least during Covid (which is still going on, but whatever) those communities were actually specifically targeted by anti-vax propaganda. I'm not sure how generic it was or if it was just anti-Covid vax stuff, but it was pretty messed up.

    Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
  • MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Pediatric hospitals across the US are running out of beds because of an early, nasty start in other respiratory diseases like RSV. I'm wondering if our half-assed COVID measures which were never enough to actually eliminate the virus but only encouraged the breeding of ever-more infectious and somewhat nastier strains did the same with all the other respirator viruses. Milder rhinoviruses were eliminated, and now we only have the ones who can infect an entire daycare at once.



    BTW, new new Ebola outbreak, now in Uganda. The Ebola vaccine is not effective against this strain.

  • tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Pediatric hospitals across the US are running out of beds because of an early, nasty start in other respiratory diseases like RSV. I'm wondering if our half-assed COVID measures which were never enough to actually eliminate the virus but only encouraged the breeding of ever-more infectious and somewhat nastier strains did the same with all the other respirator viruses. Milder rhinoviruses were eliminated, and now we only have the ones who can infect an entire daycare at once.

    The reason why things seem so infectious and severe this year is that the same old viruses are spreading in a population with less immunity from prior infection. Viruses always become as infectious as it is possible for them to be, as being more infectious is equally advantageous in all environments. In fact, slowing infection actually slows the rate of viral and bacterial evolution.

    100% human activity effect, 0% virus. This was always a certainty for any anti infection measure we introduced and then stopped.

    "That is cool" - Abraham Lincoln
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