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9-11 Never forget
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Never forget that on this day in 1973, the tyrannical western capitalist nations, most especially the so called United States of America and Great Britain, collided with fascist dictator Augusto Pinochet to overthrow the democratically elected socialist government of Salvadore Allende.
Remember this immortal final speech from Allende, and let us all hope we would have the grace, poise and wisdom in the face of such adversity:
Remember this immortal final speech from Allende, and let us all hope we would have the grace, poise and wisdom in the face of such adversity:
Surely this will be the last opportunity for me to address you. The Air Force has bombed the antennas of Radio Portales and Radio Corporación.
My words do not have bitterness but disappointment. May they be a moral punishment for those who have betrayed their oath: soldiers of Chile, titular commanders in chief, Admiral Merino, who has designated himself Commander of the Navy, and Mr. Mendoza, the despicable general who only yesterday pledged his fidelity and loyalty to the Government, and who also has appointed himself Chief of the Carabineros.
Given these facts, the only thing left for me is to say to workers: I'm not going to resign! Placed in a historic transition, I will pay for the loyalty of the people with my life. And I say to them that I am certain that the seeds which we have planted in the good conscience of thousands and thousands of Chileans will not be shriveled forever.
They have force and will be able to dominate us, but social processes can be arrested by neither crime nor force. History is ours, and people make history.
Workers of my country: I want to thank you for the loyalty that you always had, the confidence that you deposited in a man who was only an interpreter of great yearnings for justice, who gave his word that he would respect the Constitution and the law and did just that. At this definitive moment, the last moment when I can address you, I wish you to take advantage of the lesson: foreign capital, imperialism, together with the reaction, created the climate in which the Armed Forces broke their tradition, the tradition taught by General Schneider and reaffirmed by Commander Araya, victims of the same social sector who today are hoping, with foreign assistance, to re-conquer the power to continue defending their profits and their privileges.
I address you, above all, the modest woman of our land, the countrywoman who believed in us, the mother who knew our concern for children. I address professionals of Chile, patriotic professionals who continued working against the sedition that was supported by professional associations, classist associations that also defended the advantages of capitalist society. I address the youth, those who sang and gave us their joy and their spirit of struggle. I address the man of Chile, the worker, the farmer, the intellectual, those who will be persecuted, because in our country fascism has been already present for many hours -- in terrorist attacks, blowing up the bridges, cutting the railroad tracks, destroying the oil and gas pipelines, in the face of the silence of those who had the obligation to act. They were committed. History will judge them.
Surely Radio Magallanes will be silenced, and the calm metal of my voice will no longer reach you. It does not matter. You will continue hearing it. I will always be next to you. At least my memory will be that of a man of dignity who was loyal to his country.
The people must defend themselves, but they must not sacrifice themselves. The people must not let themselves be destroyed or riddled with bullets, but they cannot be humiliated either.
Workers of my country, I have faith in Chile and its destiny. Other men will overcome this dark and bitter moment when treason seeks to prevail. Go forward knowing that, sooner rather than later, the great avenues will open again and free men will walk through them to construct a better society.
Long live Chile! Long live the people! Long live the workers!
These are my last words, and I am certain that my sacrifice will not be in vain, I am certain that, at the very least, it will be a moral lesson that will punish felony, cowardice, and treason.
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I forget.
As someone who didn't see the actual proper footage until years after the fact, let me tell you that it remains really fucked up to me that a bunch of schools across the country made kids sit through live viewings of planes slamming into buildings instead of just sending them home once they received news that something rotten was afoot.
I remain forever glad that I never got swept up in the mania of that particular Cultural PTSD Milestone. It remains as alien to me as fire is to a penguin.
You know what's more fucked up that I was learning about recently?
They also do that for all of the kids who have been born since then, watching that footage on the day as like, a traditional commemoration in your elementary school class is a thing now.
On some level I can understand turning the TVs on in my seventh grade classroom, it was important news and it's not like teachers had cell phones to surreptitiously check or whatever. But I've also never rewatched that footage, I feel no need to do so.
Someone ten years younger than me may have watched it every year.
how does a brain get so poisoned it thinks this is an appropriate thing to show to children
They do what?
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What kind of sick fuckin holiday you gotta make it?
It's like Columbus day except you actually show the traumatizing events but still strip away all the nuance and context
I saw the Challenger explode on liftoff live on TV in home room.
Grade school here.
Granted, they didn't make a point to continue showing me it every year on the anniversary, because that would be psychotic.
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did they make you rewatch it every year?
God no. I understand the problem is that this is part of their brainwashing program for kids via education.
I mean nobody expected the shuttle to explode whereas when they turned on the 9-11 attacks buildings had already been hit by planes and were on fire.
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Oh Now I remember! It's the day I watched this guy die!
Years later I would hear his literal last words as he died engulfed in flames and debris. I had nightmares for months as a full grown man
Hey, Jokerman
I know he would be proud to see you now, and I am so sorry he was ripped away from you like that.
Oh mechmantis that is so. Incredibly. Sweet.
You have in all seriousness made me tear up.
This is Kevin Cosgrove. He was an executive who was stuck in the WTC when the planes hit.
I was a high school freshman when it happened. I still remember being in my first period civics class when the construction teacher, a polish immigrant who's father had built the WTC, came to the back door to our teacher. Then they turned on the TV and I watched my world change forever.
I knew it was bad. I knew people were dying and lives were being lost. But it was all abstract to me until I heard the 911 calls. That's when it became real to me. After losing my mom, I would have dreams like that once a week. Where she was panicked and scared and about to die. I haven't had one in a long time.
But that said it’s also fairly clear that the ritual that has arisen around 9/11/2001 (I almost said the American 9/11 but it seems accidentally disingenuous given our role in the coup against Allende) has little to do with the people who died, given these past nigh three years have seen countless 9/11s worth of deaths repeated week after week, if not often day after day, and the ruling hierarchies shrug those off as just the cost of a resumed normality.
To say nothing of the rest of the cynical and deplorable ways 9/11 was exploited for nightmarish ends (jingoism, the wars in the Middle East, racism and xenophobia against Muslims, Arab Americans, Sikhs and other brown-skinned minorities at home, etc) and ignored because those lives were expendable enough (first responders valorized for propaganda ends yet their medical needs left to rot, the issues surrounding public air health for a duration around the site of ground zero, etc)
RAISE HELL PRAISE DALE
Well they have less time to show it as often now with all the active shooter drills
Anyways, death to America. I hope the people of Chile can prosper and heal against the generational trauma caused by the US Govt backing Pinochet's coup.
The jingoism that came out of that day has never calmed back down.
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oh yeah, they absolutely won so much harder than they could've predicted
This is an absolutely horrifying glimpse into the mind of a madwoman.
They completely fucked air travel since then and we haven't figured out how to make TSA work smoothly in 20 years
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So when Allende says, “ History is ours, and people make history.” I feel inspired by that. These evil people don’t get the final word. Humanity will endure and one day, we’ll be able to live in a post capitalist society that respects the inherent dignity of the individual. What keeps me going day after day is slowly chipping away at the cliff side, building community bonds, showing people that good things are possible, and helping people to see there are other, better ways
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The event as a whole and it’s impact on the country are open season for me anymore
Yeah like, I think it’s important to make a clear distinction between USA the state and USA the collection of people. I absolutely consider the victims of 9/11 to be (albeit indirect) victims of the US’ unchecked colonialist tendencies. The people deserve sympathy. I think even if the worst case, you say, “oh, the people in the WTC were working for exploitative multinationals” and to me, even in those cases, that’s not a capital crime
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The blood of untold hundreds of thousands of Iraqis is on the hands of George W. Bush and his administration for perpetrating an invasion and occupation justified by knowingly falsified intelligence and pretenses.
I'm not being glib when I say that, nor when I ask you this: Lacking the ability and resources to hold those responsible accountable for their crimes against humanity, what can be expected of us but a fair amount of bitter sardonic commentary?
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(Further down the comments.)
Rather, her ability to seem incredibly shallow while expressing the nuances of survivor's guilt is impressive given she's a paid writer. The full quote that they pulled the headline from is slightly less egregious: "[...] fashion is one of the diversions, like sports and movies, that might help us heal and that we shouldn't feel guilty for enjoying."
If you read the article (sorry!),
https://mobile.twitter.com/g026r/status/1569399497272315905/photo/1
it's clear she was in survival mode and coping via the neural pathways her brain treads most, which is what most of us do when confronted with trauma and catastrophe. She defaulted to what she knew, but recognized at least in retrospect how profound and terrible that moment was.
I was definitely aghast as a first reaction to the tweet thread, but now I'm at that person having a very human response to something overwhelming.
She's apparently just bad at being anything but a fashion reporter. They say write what you know!