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it's tricky to evaluate because one consistency in the GOP voters is that they love strongmen, but hate losers. it's why they have to have so many conspiracy theories about stolen wins
It's harder because "winner in Florida" is what people are using to say DeSantis is #theguy going forward for them, when
DeSantis is going for the presidency and he'll be able to take it from Trump because donors and "normal" republicans like him and he can show the chuds that he can win elections and Trump cant.
The other thing is Trump is now a known entity. He had some plausible deniability as an unknown dark horse in 2016 but now you know you're getting 4 more years of absolutely nothing. He couldn't even get wins when he controlled most of the government. He definitely won't with a Dem senate.
So basically he's already DOA as far as actually having an agenda if he wins. I'm not saying it's in the bag because I have learned never to hope but he's facing a much steeper fight to win this time.
Yeah like obviously never count him out, he's a fascist and you take them seriously, but it's not the same game it was last time. GOP hopefuls, people who want power, watched and learned, and they're going to be better fighters than the joke of a field that they had in 2016.
DeSantis taking the nomination is the worst case scenario for me, because if anybody can take Trump's control of the right wing lunatics it's him. And he is unfortunately far more competent at the fascism than Trump. Trump was the GOP's own worst enemy during his presidency, DeSantis would be the kind of extremist tempered with actual leadership that could cause all the Never Trumpers to get on board with fascism. Or be cowed into it.
For what it's worth a year before the primaries even start, nearly every post-midterm GOP primary poll that includes both Trump and DeSantis now has DeSantis leading, both nationally and in several individual states (including Iowa, New Hampshire, Texas, Georgia and obviously Florida): https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/
Literally anything can happen between now and then, but as of right now it seems like these midterms may actually signal the end of widespread GOP support for Trump.
That said, no one ever went broke betting on the Republican base rallying to Trump against the wishes of the party leaders.
Desantis is absolutely as evil and bigoted and misogynistic and white Christian fascist as trump, but he's more competent and younger, a Desantis win is definitely worse than a trump win
If Desantis wins, we'll be in camps by the end of his first term
There's a reality where 9/11 never happens, Bush leaves office after two terms as the new Republican messiah and in 2016 when Jeb! runs he still gets absolutely pantsed by Trump.
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minor incidentyou can't swim whenyou've been dead a hundred yearsRegistered User, Transition Teamregular
I can’t imagine a single reality in all of the infinite multiverse where Jeb Bush doesn’t get absolutely wedgied to death trying to run for President.
Maybe if there’s an Oops! All Jebs! universe.
Ah, it stinks, it sucks, it's anthropologically unjust
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
I'm pretty comfortable not predicting anything. I don't have any fucking clue what any subsection of voters are going to do. Primary voters are very weird. And in the general we added a special extra nonsense step that can invalidate a huge swathe of the population's preferences regardless.
The pertinent fact is that anyone nominated has a distressingly high chance of winning so we should do what we can to make sure that the Republican nominee is officially one of those dog mayors.
We're all in this together
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
Lanz I love you but WEBP?
makin' me hit print screen? like an animal?
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
edited November 2022
I just hope we get one or two more generations outta this great experiment (we failed), so we can have like, the first openly cool-indie-adult president
like, fuck these grandpas, I want the president to be the uncle that I'd buy weed off of sometimes. the one who gave me those Pavement albums. took me to see Modest Mouse and shit.
I have never once had a president that I could trust to be cool if I called them in the middle of the night to come pick me up because I was too drunk or this party was a bad idea
I bet you it's like, 20/80 narcs on the president list
George Washington all "I cannot tell a lie!" FUCK YOU UNCLE GEORGE
edit: Lincoln would be totally a bro, though. and can you imagine the feats of strength you'd witness if your uncle was Abraham Lincoln?
In slightly brighter news Villanueva of the LASD lost his election and will thus be booted from the position of sheriff. He leaves behind a legacy of terrorism against civilian oversight, de facto sanctioning of cop gangs, and a culture of gratuitous murder without consequences.
I just hope we get one or two more generations outta this great experiment (we failed), so we can have like, the first openly cool-indie-adult president
like, fuck these grandpas, I want the president to be the uncle that I'd buy weed off of sometimes. the one who gave me those Pavement albums. took me to see Modest Mouse and shit.
I have never once had a president that I could trust to be cool if I called them in the middle of the night to come pick me up because I was too drunk or this party was a bad idea
I bet you it's like, 20/80 narcs on the president list
George Washington all "I cannot tell a lie!" FUCK YOU UNCLE GEORGE
edit: Lincoln would be totally a bro, though. and can you imagine the feats of strength you'd witness if your uncle was Abraham Lincoln?
The Presidents would narc on you because you're a little person. They regularly hang with/are upperclass amoral drug addicts.
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
edited November 2022
You'd be out choppin' wood with Uncle Abe and you stop and wipe the sweat from your brow and he's leaning on his axe, looking at you sort of distantly.
it's a tired joke by now, but I went to Wawa this morning and on my way, drove behind a truck with a thin blue line sticker, a Punisher thin blue line sticker, and a Don't Tread on Me
like, okay A) if someone were to do the treading it would be the cops and 2) it's gonna be hard not treading on you when you're down there suckin' the polish off those boots.
I remember the good old days when having a Don’t Tread on Me bumper sticker just meant you were an early American history major/nerd.
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It's harder because "winner in Florida" is what people are using to say DeSantis is #theguy going forward for them, when
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So basically he's already DOA as far as actually having an agenda if he wins. I'm not saying it's in the bag because I have learned never to hope but he's facing a much steeper fight to win this time.
Just...wow.
(The New York Post (a.k.a. The Sun Sans Tits) is a NewsCorp owned paper, and that is the front page for today. Note the bottom of the page.)
I really look forward to all criticisms of Biden and Harris being heresy again
there's no way biden's running again is he???
I can't find the image but there's a screenshot of some anime that goes along the lines of, "The old generation has no right to create the new age."
I think about that line periodically.
@Lanz you're up
Literally anything can happen between now and then, but as of right now it seems like these midterms may actually signal the end of widespread GOP support for Trump.
That said, no one ever went broke betting on the Republican base rallying to Trump against the wishes of the party leaders.
If Desantis wins, we'll be in camps by the end of his first term
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Maybe if there’s an Oops! All Jebs! universe.
The pertinent fact is that anyone nominated has a distressingly high chance of winning so we should do what we can to make sure that the Republican nominee is officially one of those dog mayors.
makin' me hit print screen? like an animal?
like, fuck these grandpas, I want the president to be the uncle that I'd buy weed off of sometimes. the one who gave me those Pavement albums. took me to see Modest Mouse and shit.
I have never once had a president that I could trust to be cool if I called them in the middle of the night to come pick me up because I was too drunk or this party was a bad idea
I bet you it's like, 20/80 narcs on the president list
George Washington all "I cannot tell a lie!" FUCK YOU UNCLE GEORGE
edit: Lincoln would be totally a bro, though. and can you imagine the feats of strength you'd witness if your uncle was Abraham Lincoln?
Vaya con dios you slimy fuck.
Splitting rails left and right
"you know... Willie'd be about your age."
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in this scenario they are your uncle.
Weird, the iterations on my phone are JPEG and PNG
is vanilla converting to WEBP when I attach them?
I dunno, it's been happening lately!
I remember the good old days when having a Don’t Tread on Me bumper sticker just meant you were an early American history major/nerd.