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TimFijiTimFiji Beast LordHalfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
My mom is trying to quit smoking and wants to try to use a vape to start the process. I know vapes aren't the best for you but they gotta be better than inhaling smoke? Does anyone have any recommendations for a good one I could get her?

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    The biggest reason vape pens are controversial as a means to wean off smoking is because vape pens can have 25-50x as much nicotine as a regular cigarette, and nobody is forced to be precise with the dosage. I know people who have tried to wean from smoking but instead worsened their nicotine addiction by an obscene amount because of this. You have to be careful with drugs that aren't regulated by the FDA.

    Nicotine patches, lozenges, and gum have a strictly regulated dose of nicotine, FDA approval, quality control with actual stakes, and evidence that they help smoking cessation. They also are ingested differently than cigarettes, so they help wean off the psychological habits of the act of smoking.

    Any particular reason she prefers the vape method?

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  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    The biggest reason vape pens are controversial as a means to wean off smoking is because vape pens can have 25-50x as much nicotine as a regular cigarette, and nobody is forced to be precise with the dosage. I know people who have tried to wean from smoking but instead worsened their nicotine addiction by an obscene amount because of this. You have to be careful with drugs that aren't regulated by the FDA.

    Nicotine patches, lozenges, and gum have a strictly regulated dose of nicotine, FDA approval, quality control with actual stakes, and evidence that they help smoking cessation. They also are ingested differently than cigarettes, so they help wean off the psychological habits of the act of smoking.

    Any particular reason she prefers the vape method?

    Not sure if prefer is the word since she has never used it. she just wants to quit the actual smoking part and use a vape as a step down. Is it possible to get the cartridges with less nicotine in it?

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  • CelloCello Registered User regular
    TimFiji wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    The biggest reason vape pens are controversial as a means to wean off smoking is because vape pens can have 25-50x as much nicotine as a regular cigarette, and nobody is forced to be precise with the dosage. I know people who have tried to wean from smoking but instead worsened their nicotine addiction by an obscene amount because of this. You have to be careful with drugs that aren't regulated by the FDA.

    Nicotine patches, lozenges, and gum have a strictly regulated dose of nicotine, FDA approval, quality control with actual stakes, and evidence that they help smoking cessation. They also are ingested differently than cigarettes, so they help wean off the psychological habits of the act of smoking.

    Any particular reason she prefers the vape method?

    Not sure if prefer is the word since she has never used it. she just wants to quit the actual smoking part and use a vape as a step down. Is it possible to get the cartridges with less nicotine in it?

    Some retailers will sell them yeah, but the types of cartridges available might vary locally so you may want to just go to a local shop and ask for some help

    No reason why she couldn't use the Nicotine patch or whatnot while also using the vape with nicotine-free juices to wean herself off the habit itself, too

    The NHS has a handy intro guide

    https://www.nhs.uk/better-health/quit-smoking/vaping-to-quit-smoking/

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Do not trust vape liquid ingredients, as I understand it they lie constantly. Their only goal is to get you more addicted to nicotine so you get reliant on it, same as cigarettes but more nicotine. Not a useful tool for quitting at all.

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  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    Ah poop on that, but thanks for all the info

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    If you live in the UK it might be different, but I went through the NHS site and it didn't have much info on trusted brands.

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