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[Dwarf Fortress] with acceptable, SD graphics.

MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin techRegistered User regular
edited December 2022 in Games and Technology
Old DF thread

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Dwarf Fortress is a single-player fantasy game. You can control a dwarven outpost or an adventurer in a randomly generated, persistent world. Created by the brothers Adams: Toady One and ThreeToe over at Bay12 Games, Dwarf Fortress is one of the games that inspired the popular hits like Minecraft, Terraria, Rimworld, Prison Architect etc.

Today the game is available in a new premium version over at:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/975370/Dwarf_Fortress/
https://kitfoxgames.itch.io/dwarf-fortress?
Published by Kitfox Games, the premium version features a full amazing soundtrack and ambience, as well as a huge detailed tileset created by Ironhand, Neoriceisgood, Caroart, Meph and yours truly. And on Steam - Steam Workshop integration!

The bay12games.com version remains free and will feature all the GUI improvements of the premium version, while keeping the classic ASCII display. But supporting the Adams brothers in their now 20-year-old endeavour to create the most complex fantasy world simulation game ever is appreciated. You can also support them directly at the Bay12 website.

Example screenshots:
Free:
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Premium:
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Useful links:
Famed Fortresses:
Useless links:
Previous PA DF threads:
I've been looking into Dwarf Fortress history.

I think Penny Arcade forums were one of the first epicenters of Dwarf Fortress, alongside Something Awful and of course the Bay12 forums. There are early references at Bay12 about what's been said "over at PA" like everyone was aware of the places to talk about DF online.
Unfortunately it looks like PA's archives only go back to threads created at the start of 2007. In the earliest DF thread I can find here, there's a link in the OP to the current SA thread "since the old PA DF megathread fell off the forums." :(
Unless the dates got screwed up, it looks like we went through two 60 page threads in just May 2007. As noted by Captain K, it was possibly the most active thread on the forum at the time.

(first thread lost forever)
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/21581/dwarf-cancels-sleep-playing-dwarf-fortress-nsf56k/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/22572/dwarf-fortress-a-section-of-the-thread-has-collapsed-nsf56k/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/23989/dwarf-fortress-toady-one-withdraws-from-society-nsf56k/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/38984/dwarf-fortress-new-ver-released-now-in-3-ascii-dimensions-nsf56k/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/41106/dwarf-fortress-fishing-interrupted-by-carp/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/51764/dorf-fortress-quot-toady-one-has-created-a-masterpiece-quot/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/58103/dwarf-fortress-the-goblin-slams-into-an-obstacle-and-blows-apart/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/72813/dwarf-fortress-when-you-wake-up-in-the-morning-consider-torture/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/85511/dwarf-fortress-knowing-no-mercy-toady-one-destroyed-our-lives/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/89547/dwarf-fortress-be-sure-to-quot-neuter-quot-your-cats-at-the-butchers-shop/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/vanilla/discussion/116092 - thread lost :(
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/117872/dwarf-fortress-is-that-a-legendary-sock/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/133553/dwarf-fortress-0-31-25-probably-got-flying-cars-powered-by-plump-helmets-and-beards/p1
https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/153867/dwarf-fortress-with-amazing-hd-graphics/p1

The release of the new version is today, expect a lot to change. The game will now feature a basic in-game tutorial to help you start, but other than that, be on a look out for new content. The mechanics stay the same, but the way you do things will change a lot, what with the mouse UI and such. Utilities like DFHack and its derivatives (like Dwarf Therapist) will also not work until they're updated.

I'll try to update the OP with new stuff as it emerges. Strike the Earth!

Mayday on
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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    The new soundtrack sounds great, too

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Mayday wrote: »

    Thanks for finding it! I was searching all over the forums for times between specific dates...I figured it should still be around somewhere.

    I don't know if there was a thread somewhere in that 2009-2010 gap. I feel like there must not have been, since the new one after that made a clean break from the previous format.

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  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    It's possible there was one, the one after the break mentions getting content from jdarksun, who suffered a loss of all content since the beginning up to 2012.
    EDIT: Yea, it was located at https://forums.penny-arcade.com/vanilla/discussion/116092
    RIP.

    Mayday on
  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Oh geeze I see why I didn't find thread 7. It's because it was named Dorf Fortress.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    Engraved on the wall is a finely-designed image of a dwarf and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarf is laughing.

    Cugshilkás, "The Worthless Quietness"

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2022
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Engraved on the wall is a finely-designed image of a dwarf and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves and dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarf is surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are surrounded by the dwarves. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarves are screaming. The dwarf is laughing.

    Cugshilkás, "The Worthless Quietness"

    I knew it was from one of the PA threads but couldn't remember where. I had copied and posted it to my Facebook page years ago (everybody in my friend's list was confused by it lol) and got a reminder about it last Friday and it got me all excited about today's release. Speaking of, it should be out nowish!

    edit: oooo, it is! $30 ain't a bad price either! Now I just gotta finish this 12 hour workday so I can go home and play

    Darmak on
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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    It's available on Steam now

    Strike the earth

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    I will buy it anyway because game has given me entertainment for free for so long but 30 bucks seems steep for DF.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    My world is complete - default settings, took maybe two minutes to create 100 years of history

    My tutorial fortress of Clappedlances, in the world of Numthur ("The Windy Universes") is ready to go

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    I will buy it anyway because game has given me entertainment for free for so long but 30 bucks seems steep for DF.

    I dunno, I've spent way more money on games that were way less fun and that I played for waaaayyyy less. Obviously that sort of thing is subjective, but I don't ever want creators and artists to undervalue their work. Especially when a third party like Steam is getting their cut

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    One quality of life thing unrelated to the game itself: I now have two screens so can have the wiki up full time

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    Darmak wrote: »
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    I will buy it anyway because game has given me entertainment for free for so long but 30 bucks seems steep for DF.

    I dunno, I've spent way more money on games that were way less fun and that I played for waaaayyyy less. Obviously that sort of thing is subjective, but I don't ever want creators and artists to undervalue their work. Especially when a third party like Steam is getting their cut

    I understand the economics and logistics. Just in this age and what DF provides 30 bucks may cause some pushback outside of "our" demographic. Again I will buy it because it is DF but I am kind of scared to watch some of these big streamers and the general reaction about the price of it... especially from the mob.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    I will buy it anyway because game has given me entertainment for free for so long but 30 bucks seems steep for DF.

    Whereas I am surprised it's not at least $40. They are generous developers.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    One quality of life thing unrelated to the game itself: I now have two screens so can have the wiki up full time

    I've heard that the help has been overhauled and in some ways amounts to an in-game wiki? I plan on checking it out.

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  • QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    We made it!

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    It's started well: I've created two stockpiles and small rooms coming off them for workshops

    One stockpile is everything but wood, and one stockpile is just wood

    Guess which stockpile I built the carpenter's workshop adjacent to

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    It's started well: I've created two stockpiles and small rooms coming off them for workshops

    One stockpile is everything but wood, and one stockpile is just wood

    Guess which stockpile I built the carpenter's workshop adjacent to

    The first one?

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    Yikes... the Rimworld DLC Steam Auto Regional Pricing thing happened it looks like for DF. Saw a thread where it costs what amounts to 1/20th of total monthly income for DF in Turkey.

    Jubal77 on
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    I've got my first artifact: The Grasp of Speeches
    This is a tetrahedrite madush. All craftdwarfship is of the highest quality. It is encircled with bands of round tetrahedrite cabochons. On the item is an image of The Grasp of Speeches the tetrahedrite madush in native platinum.

    The madush is a huge stationary silk-stringed instrument with a wooden body. The instrument rests flat as the musician plays the fifty-nine strings with a stone bow. Tuning is accomplished by pegs. The instrument has a five octave range going from an extremely low to a middle pitch. At all pitches, the instrument has a thin wobbling quavering timbre. It has two registers. The low register has a rippling timbre. The high register begins at very low pitch and has a raspy muddy timbre.[/spoiler]

    Just in time for my tavern to be built, too

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Well a buddy of mine gifted me this on Steam, so now I have to retaliate somehow 😡😤

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  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    Kruggsmash is streaming the Steam version today.

    A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
  • MvrckMvrck Dwarven MountainhomeRegistered User regular
    Axen wrote: »
    Kruggsmash is streaming the Steam version today.

    Everyone is streaming the steam version today.

  • QanamilQanamil x Registered User regular
    23.6k viewers on twitch alone, it's popping off.

  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    Even I was steaming the stream version today.

  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    It'd be funny if all Forgotten Beasts generated as Steam for a week or so

    I ate an engineer
  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    My first caravan requested splints and sceptres

    I've made so many splints and sceptres

    Although I've got a dwarf in a strange mood asking for (I think) silk, which I don't have, so unless he can hold off for two seasons I think I might have my first fatality coming up

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    I booted this up, played a few minutes before work meetings kicked off...this is going to be addictive.

    Workshop support as well, dear god help me.

  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Dixon wrote: »
    I booted this up, played a few minutes before work meetings kicked off...this is going to be addictive.

    Workshop support as well, dear god help me.

    Dwarf Fortress has always had workshops and supports.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    STRIKE THE EARTH

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  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    First fortress annihilated in the first season by a passing Evil Gloom. One moment I'm fine, the next I'm watching most of my dwarves suddenly start craving flesh.

    A horrible way for those dwarves to die, but a good omen for the Steam release!

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    There is so much to learn, anyone know if the Kitfox streams covered more than the starting tutorial?

  • MaydayMayday Cutting edge goblin tech Registered User regular
    edited December 2022
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    There is so much to learn, anyone know if the Kitfox streams covered more than the starting tutorial?

    Umm, you want me to do a tutorial stream? (they mostly didn't).

    Mayday on
  • Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    There is so much to learn, anyone know if the Kitfox streams covered more than the starting tutorial?

    I'm finding that the overall mechanics are all but identical to the classic version, the options are simply hotkeyed differently and tucked into different menus than before.

    Case in point: assigning rooms. Instead of the old way of making a room from a piece of furniture, you designate and assign the room from Zones. So to make an office, you place your furniture, designate the space as an Office, then select it in the Zone menu and assign the owner from there. Some stuff is actually so conveniently placed now that, by standard Dwarf Fortress logic, it's counter-intuitive. Need to look at your stocks? No need to menu dive, there is literally a stock button at the top of the screen. Need to know the mood of the fortress? The dwarf moods are right there at the top of the screen. I'd say there still needs some work on the UI front, but it's now sort of bizarre how convenient a lot of this stuff is now. Instead of the build list being a pile of items, some related and some not, everything is grouped much more logically such as farming/food production stuff is its own whole sub-menu for construction instead of being piled in with all the other workshops.

    Beyond things like that, I'm not seeing any mechanics that really differ significantly from the classic version. Do the basics of securing a fortress area, set up basic food/drink production and sleeping quarters, get some basic crafts going for early trade, and set up the bare minimum of worship/entertainment stuff. Then expand as your priorities are made clear by the environment.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    There is still some major bugginess here. Just saw the farming bug is still there. Which is a pretty significant one. The game will zoom to arable land and it can be unexplored areas and thus pointing you to caves that has damp earth.

  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Whoops!

  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Wow, world generation seems a lot faster. Saving is faster too.

    Really love the graphics and music. I hate the mouse and hotkeys, but I'll get used to them.

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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