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What's the most narcissistic form of art?

StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
There's a hundred different types of art, and they're all made by artists, artists who believe their work is important. Sometimes they believe it is singularly important, the most important thing in the world, the true panacea to all of our problems.

But my question is, who believes that the most?

Up for the title we have:
- Literature: Whether it's Dante putting all of his petty nemeses in hell or John Updike writing yet another story about an attractive young woman who falls in love with her middle aged English professor, writers have been doing this for years.
- Fine Arts: What proof do you need beyond the self-portrait, really? But before that truly came to prominence in its own right, you have Michelangelo using himself as a model for St. Bartholomew, Clara Peeters hiding herself in a still life, and the whole entire bizarre psychosexual thing going on with Caravaggio's David that I do not have time to unpack right now.
- Theatre: Every narcissism of a writer and then some - when the play's the thing to catch the conscience of a king, isn't that just showing off how important plays really must be? Or in modernity, you've got your Noises Offs and your Producers, plays about the production of other plays.
- Movies: The heavyweight contender here, we all know how well movies about Hollywood do in award season when they get voted on by other people who are also connected to Hollywood. We've got your Mank, your Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, your La La Land, and we go from there all the way back to Sunset Boulevard.
- Television: Much like movies, but on a smaller and significantly more drawn out scale. Who doesn't love the antics of the crew who are tasked with making a weekly TV sketch or variety comedy show? Am I talking about 30 Rock, the Dick Van Dyke Show, Studio 60, or The Muppet Show? Who knows!
- Videogames: I actually don't have much for this one. Like, I'm sure there's a Game Dev Tycoon or whatever out there, but maybe this is what keeps videogames from being true art?
- Music: After love, one of the most popular things to sing about is music itself. Joan Jett loves rock and roll, Billy Joel is more of a piano man, and Barry Manilow writes the songs that make the whole world sing.
- Other: You have to explain this one yourself, I cannot do it for you.

What's the most narcissistic form of art? 70 votes

Literature
12%
ButlerSonelanDJ EebsmrpakuFCDAiouaPeenRT800SLyM 9 votes
Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
22%
Kane Red RobeShadowfiresponoSkeithRingoZombie GandhiPinfeldorfJokermanCaptain InertiaMrMonroe3cl1ps3TynnanBlackhawk1313WyvernNobeardMadican 16 votes
Theatre
22%
MulysaSemproniusGarthorHouk the NamebringersarukunZekSirToastyUnbrokenEvaDepressperadoOlivawMetzger MeisterDisruptedCapitalistSolarJusticeforPlutoGvzbgulIlpalaasofyeun 16 votes
Movies
11%
HacksawMaddocRhesus PositiveEndless_SerpentsDaypigeonElvenshaeLucedesGenusOneTopology 8 votes
Television
2%
tynicPreciousBodilyFluids 2 votes
Videogames
1%
BahamutZERO 1 vote
Music
12%
Machwingmatthias00Magic PinkDelzhandCraigopogoPwnanObrienOghulkSir FabulousDr. Flamingo 9 votes
Other
12%
The GeekastrobstrdVeldrinUrielMr FuzzbuttgavindelJuggernutdiscriderYoshisummons 9 votes
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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    electric wankbox

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    MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    Only one of these has tried in complete earnestness to argue to me that the others "aren't really art".

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    A painting of Narcissus

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Other
    The perverted arts

    https://youtu.be/lKPZDq9IQIU

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    I want to explain my vote.

    I don't think all fine arts are narcissistic, but I think the people that do the really fart-sniffy avant-garde stuff are entirely up their own asses. Regular paintings and sculptures and stuff are cool.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    Videogames
    obviously gamers are the most important

    that was the question right?

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Other
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I want to explain my vote.

    I don't think all fine arts are narcissistic, but I think the people that do the really fart-sniffy avant-garde stuff are entirely up their own asses. Regular paintings and sculptures and stuff are cool.

    What's a regular painting or sculpture?

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    I want to explain my vote.

    I don't think all fine arts are narcissistic, but I think the people that do the really fart-sniffy avant-garde stuff are entirely up their own asses. Regular paintings and sculptures and stuff are cool.

    See this to me feels more like pretentious than narcissistic

    Both can be true, naturally, but that's a distinction I would make

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    oh god I remember once when I was at the campus bar there was a b.fa sophomore dude who was trying to argue that movies weren't "real" art, because movies were only cheap recordings that aped theatre/opera, which were the "most pure" forms of artistic expression

    and the girl he was attempting to argue with just kept on laughing at him and knocking back shots, and when b.fa dude got to his "well I guess if you're not willing to debate me then you concede that I'm correct" shapiro-esque moment, she just kinda said "uh-huh" and threw up all over him




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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Other
    God creating humans in his image

    What a jerk

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    Other
    photography

    specifically, the subgenre known as "selfies"

    broken image link
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    RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    Literature
    You must think your words are pretty important and impressive if you go to the trouble of writin' 'em down.

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    Up JobUp Job Registered User regular
    my ass

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    Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    Movies
    I wanted to pick other because I am a narcissist and what to be original all the time, but no, no one can deny Hollywood has been crawling up it’s own ass for so long it’s a Junji Ito spiral at this point.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I wanted to pick other because I am a narcissist and what to be original all the time, but no, no one can deny Hollywood has been crawling up it’s own ass for so long it’s a Junji Ito spiral at this point.

    Even when movies aren't about Hollywood, they're about Hollywood.

    See:Inception, Menu

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    I have personally been party to multiple people with fine arts degrees expounding on how it's the only real art and they're the only True Artists.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    A mirror

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    #pipe#pipe Cocky Stride, Musky odours Pope of Chili TownRegistered User regular
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    DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    Theatre
    theater, definitely

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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    whatever it's called when I draw a picture of myself and jerk off on it

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    JuggernutJuggernut Registered User regular
    Other
    This one probably

    895buxnrz6x4.jpeg

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    VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    The Art of Racing in the Rain

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    posting

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    AJRAJR Some guy who wrestles NorwichRegistered User regular
    Wrestling

    Aaron O'Malley. Wrestler extraordinaire.
    Facebook
    Twitter
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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    https://youtu.be/UVl0rdtE9iM

    The art of selling yourself short

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    The most narcissistic artwork I can think of is Jeff Koons’ Made in Heaven. It’s just him and his wife fuckin. Full on penetration, anal, close up. Indistinguishable from hardcore porn. The narcissistic part is he thinks him fuckin his young wife is somehow meaningful. All he did was make amateur porn. Which, fine, whatever, but there ain’t anything special about it.

    ***DO NOT GOOGLE AT WORK OR SCHOOL IT REALLY IS JUST PORN***

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Reggaeton

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Other
    Probably those Trump pictures he was selling and overvaluing to his charity or whatever

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Probably those Trump pictures he was selling and overvaluing to his charity or whatever

    I did consider including the art of the deal as an option

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    ChallChall Registered User regular
    A painting of Narcissus

    A selfie of Narcissus

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    discrider wrote: »
    Probably those Trump pictures he was selling and overvaluing to his charity or whatever

    That's just money laundering like regular art.

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    SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    Theatre
    I don't really think any forms of art are inherently narcissistic but boy howdy are the majority of artists really full of themselves.

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    Chall wrote: »
    A painting of Narcissus

    A selfie of Narcissus

    Holding mini daffodils

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    Most artists I know are completely not full of themselves and needs to be actively bullied into admitting that they do something beautiful and/or worthwhile

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    Most artists I know are completely not full of themselves and needs to be actively bullied into admitting that they do something beautiful and/or worthwhile

    Yes, I know way more artists that undervalue themselves than overvalue.

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    MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Movies
    Are movies more obsessed with movies about making movies, or is TV more obsessed with TV shows about TV shows?

    I think I'm leaning toward movies, if only because movies about making movies is also considered award bait

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Fine Arts - painting, sculpture, et cetera
    Took my girls to visit their aunties studio during open hours a month or so back and my 4-year old loved it

    She has since taken over our living room and calls it her “art studia”

    She goes in there to put on stick-on earrings and kid makeup and then rip up junk mail into pieces and then tape the pieces colorfully onto other pieces of paper and then demand we mail it to grandma as her Christmas/birthday/valenstines present

    So whatever the most narcissistic form of art is it’s the opposite of that

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    JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    Theatre
    Maybe Fine art is more inherently narcissistic, but I feel Theater has the largest number of narcissists present.

    From what remember from high school, everyone in theater club was either A) the most humble down to earth person (Usually the crew) or B ) a narcissist (usually the actors).

    There was no inbetween.

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Literature
    I think the sheer quantity of self-insert fanfiction makes literature the winner

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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