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AdaTheDobieDemon Hunter for HireTime RiftRegistered Userregular
Ahhh so happy to have it end that way. If the Eagles just lost out right I’d be quite pleased still but to have a penalty that’s created this much fury already take part in ensuring the loss, sealing the fact that Eagles fans will be unable to do anything except shit themselves in rage about it just makes it so much more hilarious and delicious.
I mean, I just stopped by as a football tourist, I have significantly less skin in this game than most folks in the thread, and I don't know much about Philly's football fans (but do know lots about the abhorrent Chiefs stuff on account of, you know, all the racism)
But on a pure sports fan level the closest thing this comes to is the feeling of a fucked finish in WWE when Vince decides to pull the carpet out under a really good match with some garbage swerve of an ending because fuck you for expecting more
I was cheering for the Eagles because I've watched Sunny and it's fun to yell GO BIRDS even as I couldn't name a single player, but as a casual watcher that call took a fun and competitive sports narrative and turned it into a big fuck you
I would far rather have seen the last 1:40 play out and see Philly lose on their own merits/the Chiefs win decisively than on a call that made that time effectively worthless because now it's like, what could have been?
At the end of the day these things are supposed to be entertainment and when it isn't entertaining people stop watching.
Iunno, I think the NFL has a real problem with reffing right now that they seem completely uninterested in actually solving.
I don't watch a lot of NBA. Is it the one major American sport that doesn't have these game changing reffing issues that everyone on both teams hates after the end of every game?
NFL just happened (edit: also go chiefs) NHL is 110% the same. MLB has the strike zone shit (edit2: also the astros) . Does the NBA have the same issues?
of course. nba refs are honestly the worst of all major sports and it’s not close.
they literally have guys reffing finals games who were implicated in a massive betting scandal the nba buried by saying it was def just one bad ref and not institutional corruption. nba refs are both incompetent and crooked.
Bad ref tier list for major American sports is something like:
S++: Replacement NFL Refs, Angel Hernández, whichever NCAA crew worked the Baylor/UNC game in last year's March Madness
S: College football refs, NFL refs when a defensive player comes within an arms length of the quarterback, NBA refs during the last two minutes of the game
A: NBA Refs during the other 48 minutes of the game
B: NFL Refs, MLB umpires
I don't watch hockey or soccer so they aren't on the list
I mean, I just stopped by as a football tourist, I have significantly less skin in this game than most folks in the thread, and I don't know much about Philly's football fans (but do know lots about the abhorrent Chiefs stuff on account of, you know, all the racism)
But on a pure sports fan level the closest thing this comes to is the feeling of a fucked finish in WWE when Vince decides to pull the carpet out under a really good match with some garbage swerve of an ending because fuck you for expecting more
I was cheering for the Eagles because I've watched Sunny and it's fun to yell GO BIRDS even as I couldn't name a single player, but as a casual watcher that call took a fun and competitive sports narrative and turned it into a big fuck you
I would far rather have seen the last 1:40 play out and see Philly lose on their own merits/the Chiefs win decisively than on a call that made that time effectively worthless because now it's like, what could have been?
At the end of the day these things are supposed to be entertainment and when it isn't entertaining people stop watching.
Iunno, I think the NFL has a real problem with reffing right now that they seem completely uninterested in actually solving.
I don't watch a lot of NBA. Is it the one major American sport that doesn't have these game changing reffing issues that everyone on both teams hates after the end of every game?
NFL just happened (edit: also go chiefs) NHL is 110% the same. MLB has the strike zone shit. Does the NBA have the same issues?
In a way yes, since any one call has less impact then something like defensive holding or a power play. They do seem less consistent quarter to quarter though, one quarter let's a bunch of stuff slide and then the next someone gets 2 quick fouls doing the same thing.
Bad ref tier list for major American sports is something like:
S++: Replacement NFL Refs, Angel Hernández, whichever NCAA crew worked the Baylor/UNC game in last year's March Madness
S: College football refs, NFL refs when a defensive player comes within an arms length of the quarterback, NBA refs during the last two minutes of the game
A: NBA Refs during the other 48 minutes of the game
B: NFL Refs, MLB umpires
I don't watch hockey or soccer so they aren't on the list
for a second I parsed this as non bad ref tier list and was thoroughly confounded
the largest, richest, sporting organization in the world everyone.
maybe they should stop holding the super bowl in garbage places.
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm getting strong "Laces out" vibes from you right now Knight.
Do you think that Ref should die of Gonorrhea?
I mean the field was obviously bad with lots of players slipping and even the terrible commentators mentioned it.
Frank Clark, Chris Jones, and Juan Thornhill all agreed with the Eagles' Mailata that the field was bullshit. Hurts was one of the only guys to change his spikes and he at least was able to maintain his footing pretty well after that.
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His last drive of his career was a 98-yard touchdown drive in the playoffs in a championship season. Good cap on a career for a perennial backup.
I don't think the Chiefs time as the "dominant team" in football is going to hinge entirely on Mahomes. I actually think that Kelce's eventual retirement is going to be the biggest factor in that.
Mahomes also had 4 TDs and more production per play- including that critical 26 yard scramble on two bones just loosely bouncing around in his lower leg not connected to each other anymore
Mahomes also had 4 TDs and more production per play- including that critical 26 yard scramble on two bones just loosely bouncing around in his lower leg not connected to each other anymore
My mans was high as balls on King Ghidorah spunk
Mahomes also didn't have a turnover for a td like Hurts did.
In KCs 2 last 2 Superbowl runs they needed Chad Henne to save them against ….
The Browns, and
The Jaguars
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AdaTheDobieDemon Hunter for HireTime RiftRegistered Userregular
Should qualify all previous statements regarding the Eagles. While I am enjoying the loss for them as a whole and especially for tilted it’s made their fans I have a caveat. I really like Jalen Hurts and by all accounts he’s a stand up human and truly the one way I could root in a manner such that the team he’s attached to won. He’s an outstanding player and genuinely incredible to watch.
I thought the reffing was pretty decent last night up to the last call. As someone without any stake in the game, it was a pretty fun game to watch overall. Lots of big play's that had me yelling 'OMG!". It's interesting that NFL refs can do a pretty decent job for 80% of the time and then just massively fuck up. We saw it last year with the def holding in the exact same situation. We saw it a couple years back in the Saints/Rams championship game. I can't remember any specific bad calls from that game, but there is that one everyone still remembers. Really feels like this SB is going to be marred that same way, other than we'll also remember how the field was so bad the announcers had to spend 2-3 minutes showing players slipping left and right.
It's sad, since this could have gone down as one of the better SB's here if Hurts has a chance and gets it to overtime or the KC defense makes an amazing 4th down stop.
I actually don't think eagles fans are that tilted. I went over their subreddit and it's actually an extremely hopeful/positive outlook that is frankly surprising for any team after losing the super bowl
That’s the 2nd consecutive major US team sports championship they’ve lost
This is the calm before Gritty and/or John Tortorella kill everyone
Mahommes is my pick for mvp based solely on the fact that if I were that high, I couldn't execute basic tasks. Never mind game winning drives that 11 other people really didn't want me to complete.
I actually don't think eagles fans are that tilted. I went over their subreddit and it's actually an extremely hopeful/positive outlook that is frankly surprising for any team after losing the super bowl
That’s the 2nd consecutive major US team sports championship they’ve lost
This is the calm before Gritty and/or John Tortorella kill everyone
I think it's important to remember that in all likelihood the subreddit skews young and younger Philadelphia fans have actually watched a run of pretty decent teams across the board. If you're 30 or under you've seen some stinkers but overall you've seem a pretty good football team, a pretty good baseball team, a middling hockey team, and the perpetual "who the fuck knows" that is the 76ers. The older fans try to pass down the legacy of pessimism and anger but it's just not ground into their bones the same way.
I think if they play that game 10 times the Chiefs probably win 6 or 7, I dunno, the defense just didn't have answers. On a field where the defensive ends weren't slipping and falling down every other play maybe it would have been different (Reddick was just absolutely neutralized by bad footing), if Hurts doesn't have the fumble maybe it's different, if that fucking punt is better and there's no backbreaking return maybe it's different, but it was a hell of a game. The call at the end fucking sucks but they still would have had to drive the length of the field in 1:40 and there's just no guarantees.
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I actually don't think eagles fans are that tilted. I went over their subreddit and it's actually an extremely hopeful/positive outlook that is frankly surprising for any team after losing the super bowl
That’s the 2nd consecutive major US team sports championship they’ve lost
This is the calm before Gritty and/or John Tortorella kill everyone
I'm gonna be real, if gritty decides to end me I probably deserved it
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they have gotten much much better over the years at both making calls, and noticing them
it is likely observer bias to argue that they have made consistent enormous errors
maybe the ai ref will call giving him the business in a robotic voice that would be fun. more fun than this crap anyway.
That and I'd wager replay technology has gotten so good it might actually be easier to get an "objective view" if you're not watching it live.
Which is its own ball of yarn
the largest, richest, sporting organization in the world everyone.
maybe they should stop holding the super bowl in garbage places.
I don't watch a lot of NBA. Is it the one major American sport that doesn't have these game changing reffing issues that everyone on both teams hates after the end of every game?
NFL just happened (edit: also go chiefs) NHL is 110% the same. MLB has the strike zone shit (edit2: also the astros) . Does the NBA have the same issues?
they literally have guys reffing finals games who were implicated in a massive betting scandal the nba buried by saying it was def just one bad ref and not institutional corruption. nba refs are both incompetent and crooked.
S++: Replacement NFL Refs, Angel Hernández, whichever NCAA crew worked the Baylor/UNC game in last year's March Madness
S: College football refs, NFL refs when a defensive player comes within an arms length of the quarterback, NBA refs during the last two minutes of the game
A: NBA Refs during the other 48 minutes of the game
B: NFL Refs, MLB umpires
I don't watch hockey or soccer so they aren't on the list
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm getting strong "Laces out" vibes from you right now Knight.
Do you think that Ref should die of Gonorrhea?
In a way yes, since any one call has less impact then something like defensive holding or a power play. They do seem less consistent quarter to quarter though, one quarter let's a bunch of stuff slide and then the next someone gets 2 quick fouls doing the same thing.
for a second I parsed this as non bad ref tier list and was thoroughly confounded
wish i would so i didn't have to think about how that game ended anymore
I mean the field was obviously bad with lots of players slipping and even the terrible commentators mentioned it.
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Frank Clark, Chris Jones, and Juan Thornhill all agreed with the Eagles' Mailata that the field was bullshit. Hurts was one of the only guys to change his spikes and he at least was able to maintain his footing pretty well after that.
~ Buckaroo Banzai
I love watching players yell at umps so for that very selfish reason I hope they never move over to an automated system for calling pitches.
Let them make bad calls and get dirt kicked at them, it's a hoot.
Oh it was absolute dogshit. Field and the call on the final drive. Absolute terrible football.]
But being this mad about it is probably not good for you.
I don't know I have a terrible migraine now.
His last drive of his career was a 98-yard touchdown drive in the playoffs in a championship season. Good cap on a career for a perennial backup.
I don't think the Chiefs time as the "dominant team" in football is going to hinge entirely on Mahomes. I actually think that Kelce's eventual retirement is going to be the biggest factor in that.
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Hurts was ridiculous last night
I don't think the MVP should necessarily go a guy on the winning team
My mans was high as balls on King Ghidorah spunk
Mahomes also didn't have a turnover for a td like Hurts did.
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Fuck the NFL and the networks and the military industrial complex for what they're doing to Pat Tillman, who was deliberately murdered
They may have lost but there wasn’t a single player in the field last night more important to their team than Jalen Hurts
If the Eagles had won Hurts was the unquestionable MVP but Holmes had an outstanding game.
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Andy Reid has won every time.
I love dumb stats
That game was a thing of beauty, thrilling, an amazing showcase for Hurts and basically more evidence that there’s nothing Mahomes can’t do
And that fucking defensive holding
After the unsportsmanlike in the AFCCG lol
The Browns, and
The Jaguars
It's sad, since this could have gone down as one of the better SB's here if Hurts has a chance and gets it to overtime or the KC defense makes an amazing 4th down stop.
That’s the 2nd consecutive major US team sports championship they’ve lost
This is the calm before Gritty and/or John Tortorella kill everyone
I think it's important to remember that in all likelihood the subreddit skews young and younger Philadelphia fans have actually watched a run of pretty decent teams across the board. If you're 30 or under you've seen some stinkers but overall you've seem a pretty good football team, a pretty good baseball team, a middling hockey team, and the perpetual "who the fuck knows" that is the 76ers. The older fans try to pass down the legacy of pessimism and anger but it's just not ground into their bones the same way.
I think if they play that game 10 times the Chiefs probably win 6 or 7, I dunno, the defense just didn't have answers. On a field where the defensive ends weren't slipping and falling down every other play maybe it would have been different (Reddick was just absolutely neutralized by bad footing), if Hurts doesn't have the fumble maybe it's different, if that fucking punt is better and there's no backbreaking return maybe it's different, but it was a hell of a game. The call at the end fucking sucks but they still would have had to drive the length of the field in 1:40 and there's just no guarantees.
I'm gonna be real, if gritty decides to end me I probably deserved it