[Retro Games] II: The Adventure of Gex (Coming to Switch, PS4/5, Xbox S|X, & Steam)

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  • LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    Donnicton wrote: »
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I did try out a Commander Keen game and realized that it was more complex than I gave it credit for.
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    I loved Commander Keen as a kid, we had a couple of the games on our 486.

    Tried it again recently and uhh it's HARD!
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    tsmvengy wrote: »
    I loved Commander Keen as a kid, we had a couple of the games on our 486.

    Tried it again recently and uhh it's HARD!
    The shareware episodes are fairly simple. And then the paid episodes very much go "okay, you gave us money, that means you're serious". As a kid I remember getting really mad at one of the city levels in the first game's episode 2 where you're supposed to ride a horizontal elevator and then pogo jump up into an opening above and there were enemies walking up there.

    I can honestly call the first game's sharewere episode a formative experience for my younger self. Because of the way the levels were fairly vertical, with keys you needed to find to unlock sections of them, and there were secrets with platforms that you could only spot if you paid attention, it really made my imagination run wild as to how much bigger the game could be.

    I spent so much time trying to reach places I could see, or getting out of bounds, I must've replayed that episode dozens of times. Probably why one of the things I still prize most in games is exploration- if you sell me on your world you can be as jank as you want, I'm in there.

    After seeing bits of these online, I really wish they'd get gathered up into a collection and sold on consoles.

    Not even asking for a remaster or anything, just a console-compatible bundle.

    That would require id to recognize that it has anything in its portfolio beyond Doom, which is a problem id has had since... well, Doom.

    Bethesda to some minimal credit tried to do something with it a couple years ago, but at the same time some executive gorilla decided the route to go with it was a mobile tactics game... which went over with fans about as well as you'd expect and was ultimately cancelled.

    So now we only have what they dumped onto Steam: Eps 1-5, a glorified fanmod version of Dreams that nobody asked for that they also pulled the original off of Steam to replace it with, and 6 being entirely verboten in the halls of copyright. And that's likely all the effort we'll ever see put into the IP.

    I forgot what happened with 6. I need to look that up later.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Fans have remade Fallout 1 as a Fallout 4 mod. A demo came out a few hours ago.

    https://www.thegamer.com/fan-made-fallout-1-remake-will-be-playable-later-this-week/
    this project aims to recreate Fallout 1 with the Fallout 4 engine, letting us experience the original game in the series in first-person and with real-time combat

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    I got my Everdrive N8 Pro in the mail. Blows the Chinese knockoff out of the water.

    I can actually play Getsu Fuma Den now.

    So, I learned that the Chinese knockoffs do not work as well. They don't support all the games.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    I got the transparent red case on the Everdrive N8 Pro.

    I like to get the red cases on them to make it more obvious it is an Everdrive.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 9
    Is it ok to update Launchbox or does it screw up your game collection? I am always hesitant about updating it.

    Launchbox is kind of touchy.

    Do you really need to config a controller on MAME or are the defaults fine. It usually seems like the defaults are ok.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    It sounds like you can play Guitar Hero with PCSX2 with no problems now. You just need a USB adapter.

    Not certain if I want to plunk down money for a fake guitar.

    Reminds me of that South Park episode.

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    PDP just put out new guitars for whatever that RB-like thing in Fortnite is.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    PDP just put out new guitars for whatever that RB-like thing in Fortnite is.

    I wonder if they would work with PCSX2. Not certain if the mapping is the same.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    I went ahead and bought an old PS2 Guitar Hero guitar. I am going to use an adapter on it and see if it works with PCSX2.

    I may also try it on a PS3.

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    IIRC the PS3 RB/GH controller was wireless/required a dongle of some sort. But maybe that will work if it's just recognizing inputs.

    I guess as long as it has USB it should be okay?

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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    PS3 guitars are wireless yeah. People have taken to selling guitars and dongles separately because they can gouge. But the dongles are USB.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    I got a PS3 guitar when I bought a complete PS3 RB1 set on Craigslist a few years ago (came with drums, a mic, and a bunch of PS3 RB games), but I think the seller might have (on purpose or by mistake) given me a different dongle that doesn't work for that guitar. It's grey and my research indicates the RB1 guitar dongle should be black.

    Maybe the guitar is broken but I've not gotten it to connect to the dongle and be useful at all.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    I am just loving how these Amazon reviews are making it uncertain that the PS2 controller to USB adapter works.

    There is one review saying that it works with a Guitar Hero guitar and a PC. He is saying that the whammy bar does not work. Not certain why that would happen. It is supposed to directly map a PS2 controller.

    There is another review saying it works great in Retroarch.

    The rest of the reviews bitch about it not working. I assume they are idiots.

    Ok. Maybe I am being too harsh. I just hate it when people contradict each other.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    What PCSX2 and Duckstation do is that they use SDL to interface all Playstation controllers.

    So, the adapter should work. I suspect that the Playstation 3, 4, and 5 consoles also use SDL.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    I went ahead and ordered that PDP Riffmaster guitar. I got the XBox and PC one. Microsoft owns Guitar Hero now.

    I thinK I can get it to work with the emulators. I assume it uses X-Input.

    No one has tried it out yet, which is odd. It works with Clone Hero and Fortnight.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Really, it seems like the cool Guitar Hero games are the PS2 ones.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    Really, it seems like the cool Guitar Hero games are the PS2 ones.

    The 360 version of GH2 was good too, although I guess fundamentally the same game.

    After that there was the Harmonix/Activision schism. I followed Harmonix and went over to Rock Band. Still happy with that choice.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Here is the review. It seems like it is best to get the XBox and PC version of the controller.
    https://youtu.be/bbmNkhZr8vY?si=RLXMYJ8nuAmjB2ks

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    You can't get Rock Band 4 on the XBox store. I had to find a disc copy on eBay. It seems like they tried to force people to get a guitar with the game.

    I assume you can still buy songs for it on XBox One.

    Edit. Ah. I see what they did. They made a new bundle.
    https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/rock-band-4-rivals-bundle/brs6zckhrnvx#activetab=pivot:overviewtab

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Do any of the emulators have anything to deal with audio/video latency? I remember most of the old music games didn't have in-game calibration options, which made a lot of them unplayable on modern TVs.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 10
    Dirty wrote: »
    Do any of the emulators have anything to deal with audio/video latency? I remember most of the old music games didn't have in-game calibration options, which made a lot of them unplayable on modern TVs.

    That I don't know about. I would have to look into it.

    Edit: It seems like latency on PCSX2 is fine, but people are complaining.
    https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/issues/7268

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 11
    Duckstation and PCSX2 do have latency sliders.

    Do the PS3 Guitar Hero games have more songs than the PS2 versions or is it the same?

    It does seem like the PS3 versions are better versions.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    This guy on NeoGaf pointed me to what I need to get the Riffmaster to work with the emulators.

    You need this utility.
    https://github.com/TheNathannator/RB4InstrumentMapper/blob/main/README.md#rpcs3

    The guitar uses special packets that need to be translated to X-Input. Someone already figured it out.

  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Personally, I just don't really like Guitar Hero after Harmonix left. Activision didn't really put as much care into the note charts, and I don't think they did a good job of translating the OG art style into HD. It just seemed uglier and less fun to play, unless you were obsessed with skittle-vomit tracks.

  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    Dirty wrote: »
    Personally, I just don't really like Guitar Hero after Harmonix left. Activision didn't really put as much care into the note charts, and I don't think they did a good job of translating the OG art style into HD. It just seemed uglier and less fun to play, unless you were obsessed with skittle-vomit tracks.

    It's weird to say, but it felt like Harmonix had musicians on staff and the note charts were more intuitive because of it.

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    Harmonix definitely had musicians in their staff. Back before music labels were on board with offering master track access, they relied on covers, and I think those were done in-house.

    There's also just a huge difference in design philosophy between a studio that was literally founded to make music-based video games and a studio that was simply assigned to music games because they were available.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    edited August 11
    I remember one reviewer back in the day describing the difference as words to the effect of "Guitar Hero (meaning GH3 or later) is the game, Rock Band is the fantasy". And I think that was broadly accurate - GH really started to lean into skittle-vomit tracks (thanks @Dirty :lol: ) for challenge and game-y purposes, while Harmonix's Rock Band went more for accuracy in note charts as well as the feel - obviously aided by the whole up-to-4-player, different instruments, you-guys-ARE-a-band setup (which GH tried to ape later). Rock Band even managed to achieve that feel in single-player up to a point, especially in RB2 when you could finally wilfully choose to be the bassist in single-player!

    There was even the competition with the instruments - I played on 360 so I don't recall well the situation on PS3, but on 360 at least, Rock Band (Harmonix) maintained compatibility with GH guitars, but Guitar Hero 3 onwards (Activision) very deliberately would NOT work with RB guitars due to Activision wanting players to buy their hardware and more of it. If I'm remembering right, anyway.

    That had the weird knock-on reversal effect of some players who didn't keep up on the news thinking that Rock Band/Harmonix was in fact stopping their instruments from working on Guitar Hero. Which I'm sure suited Activision just fine.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 11
    I will have to collect the Green Day and The Beatles Rock Band games. Are there any other special ones like that?

    Here is a pretty good guide to the guitars.
    https://wiki.clonehero.net/books/guitars-drums-controllers/page/all-first-party-guitars

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    The Beatles Rock Band games are dirt cheap for some reason. I found a PS3 copy with Rock Band 2 for $17.

    I guess it had a really high print run.

  • JazzJazz Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    I will have to collect the Green Day and The Beatles Rock Band games. Are there any other special ones like that?

    No other band-specific ones. Guitar Hero had a few others though: Aerosmith, Metallica, and Van Halen.

    Both had other spin offs like Guitar Hero: Rocks the '80s and Lego Rock Band.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Krathoon wrote: »
    The Beatles Rock Band games are dirt cheap for some reason. I found a PS3 copy with Rock Band 2 for $17.

    I guess it had a really high print run.

    They're dirt cheap because they were put out as if they were going to be as popular as a Rock Band 4. Boomers are delusional about the stuff they like.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 11
    Wow. It is a colossal pain in the ass to find a receiver for a Guitar Hero 5 guitar.

    I might as well just use the Riffmaster guitar and the PS3 emulator.

    Edit: I found some on Amazon, but they are like $89 and $94.

    That is absurd.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    Really, it sounds like it is better to get a 360 guitar compared to a PS3 one.

    The 360 guitar uses a generic 360 controller receiver. Much easier to come by. More standardized.

  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    edited August 11
    I sent back the 2X-Pro a couple of weeks ago because I don't think any of my TVs/monitors could handle the 480 signal.

    Yesterday I got the 5X-Pro and it works! Looks pretty good and it's a trip playing Super Mario Kart again on original hardware.

    Edit: I updated the firmware. HDR and CRT emulation! Oh, this is nifty.

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  • Cameron_TalleyCameron_Talley Registered User regular
    Someone finally made a Virtual Boy emulator for Apple Vision Pro (and iPhone/iPad)

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/10/24217643/vision-pro-nintendo-virtual-boy-emulator-virtualfriend-impressions

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  • GlalGlal AiredaleRegistered User regular
    Someone finally made a Virtual Boy emulator for Apple Vision Pro (and iPhone/iPad)

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/10/24217643/vision-pro-nintendo-virtual-boy-emulator-virtualfriend-impressions
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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    There are independant Demon's Souls and Little Big Planet servers. I may try using them.

  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 12
    Now I am messing around with PS3 emulation. Seems pretty good. I need to test some games out.

    I was going to try out Lightning Returns. That was a game that seemed to have emulation trouble a couple of years ago.

    I am assuming the emulation is pretty much licked now. RPCS3 seems to have a pretty good reputation.

    The game list on the emulator does have this annoying thing were, if you hide a game, it is permanently marked as hidden. They need to fix that.

    Edit: Ah. I found a way to disable that.

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  • KrathoonKrathoon Registered User regular
    edited August 12
    The compiling of the PPU Modules may get annoying.

    I tried Lightning Returns and Jak and Daxter and the emulator works really well.

    There is a slight bit of jankiness when it loads things.

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