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The Holy Grail: The Threesome

powersspowerss Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
I've been with my girlfriend for three and a half years, and I'm looking to spice it up.

Does anyone have any experience with this - where to get started, thoughts on problems down the line, et cetera?

Or should I just forget the idea.

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  • Bionic MonkeyBionic Monkey Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    and I'm looking to spice it up..

    How's your girlfriend feel about the idea?

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yeah, I should have mentioned that I need advice on how to easily broach the subject without her feeling like I don't love her anymore, et cetera. :)

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  • KyanilisKyanilis Bellevue, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    First off, this takes a special type of relationship. For most people, you can't introduce a "third" and not have it cause problems. I'm also assuming that you are trying to add another female to the mix, but may I remind you that you only have one lovestick anyway.

    So whereas the idea of a threesome SOUNDS good on paper, in practice its sloppy. And you mentioned you are looking to spice it up, which means your idea? Well ok, you suggest it, she says yes just to make you happy, it leads to problems later since really, who wants to watch their significant other get it on with someone? Or she says no, and then uses it against you. Not something you want to mess with.

    The ideal scenario would be for HER to suggest it (and not because you directly hint at it), suggesting that she completely is for the idea and at this point, it'd be less likely to turn out badly. So unless this is the case, I suggest you try and find another way to spice things up, really.

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  • meekermeeker Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You can't. The only times a 3-some would ever possibly work is if the woman brought it up. You will be considered an insensitive jerk at best and dumped and kicked in the nuts at worst. Find some other way to spice things up.

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fuck. I kinda figured this. I'll wait for more to chime in.

    And yes, it would be another female.

    powerss on
  • whuppinswhuppins Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    After three and a half years, I bet you already know whether your girlfriend would be into it. Come on, be honest with yourself.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    meeker wrote: »
    You can't. The only times a 3-some would ever possibly work is if the woman brought it up. You will be considered an insensitive jerk at best and dumped and kicked in the nuts at worst. Find some other way to spice things up.

    Umm, no. You're wrong.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    Fuck. I kinda figured this. I'll wait for more to chime in.

    And yes, it would be another female.

    And what if she says sure, and already has another guy picked out?

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    ege02 wrote: »
    meeker wrote: »
    You can't. The only times a 3-some would ever possibly work is if the woman brought it up. You will be considered an insensitive jerk at best and dumped and kicked in the nuts at worst. Find some other way to spice things up.

    Umm, no. You're wrong.

    Even if that's the case, I'm willing to bet on the "Horribly rejected and kicked in the nuts" rather then the "O hey threesome sure!".

    However, there is one question that will improve his odds.

    Is the girlfreind Bi?

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    I'd say ease here into it by letting her have a threesome with you and that guy she's friendly with at her work first.

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  • Evil GummyEvil Gummy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You know, as a girl who was in a long term relationship where this was brought up, and it seemed like a fun idea and all, there was one major issue that popped up.



    FINDING the other girl.


    The reason it didn't work for me and my ex (ex for unrelated reasons), was because he wanted ME to find the other girl and do all the work to convince her to join us in rhapsody and all that.


    That turned me off the idea, because it was easy enough to get other girls interested in fooling around with me, but not with the both of us at the same time.

    So, my advice if she does seem interested in the idea, and you work out the other issues, (at least upfront, all sorts of things pop up in the future.) that you take a very proactive hand in helping the fantasy along if she doesn't want all the responsibility.

    Nothing is worse then the idea that "the fact we're not having threesomes is your fault, try harder." :/

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    stigweard wrote: »
    powerss wrote: »
    Fuck. I kinda figured this. I'll wait for more to chime in.

    And yes, it would be another female.

    And what if she says sure, and already has another guy picked out?

    D:

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Evil Gummy wrote: »
    You know, as a girl who was in a long term relationship where this was brought up, and it seemed like a fun idea and all, there was one major issue that popped up.



    FINDING the other girl.


    The reason it didn't work for me and my ex (ex for unrelated reasons), was because he wanted ME to find the other girl and do all the work to convince her to join us in rhapsody and all that.


    That turned me off the idea, because it was easy enough to get other girls interested in fooling around with me, but not with the both of us at the same time.

    So, my advice if she does seem interested in the idea, and you work out the other issues, (at least upfront, all sorts of things pop up in the future.) that you take a very proactive hand in helping the fantasy along if she doesn't want all the responsibility.

    Nothing is worse then the idea that "the fact we're not having threesomes is your fault, try harder." :/

    Excellent points. I will keep this in mind.

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  • DiscGraceDiscGrace Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    stigweard wrote: »
    powerss wrote: »
    Fuck. I kinda figured this. I'll wait for more to chime in.

    And yes, it would be another female.

    And what if she says sure, and already has another guy picked out?

    D:

    So you want her to be okay with another girl in your bed, but you're not okay with having another guy there? That's not very Good, Giving, and Game of you.

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Not so much the other guy. It's the idea that she'd have him picked out already. :)

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Most of what others have said is good. While men and women are usually of very different minds on this topic, I'd think long and hard about how *you* would want to be approached about it if she wanted to invite another guy into the mix.

    Also, if it does work out, do *NOT* use a girl that you both already know/are friends with. That is a recipe for a fucking disaster.

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  • misbehavinmisbehavin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Honestly, this has disaster written all over it...

    First of all, why do you want to "spice it up" with another woman? There are great many other ways to enjoy a healthy sex life without adding another person into the mix... And when added to the fact that you seemed horrified at the prospect of another guy instead of another girl, to be truthful, it sounds more like you just want to fuck another woman, and if that is the case, man up and break it off and just find another woman...

    If that is not the case and you really are looking to spice things up, I suggest mentioning to her that you are bored with your sex life and want to spice things up and come up with ideas TOGETHER. Don't just surprise her one day with "sex has become boring, how about another chick?"

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  • CaswynbenCaswynben Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If you are afraid that bringing it up with her will make her upset and make her think that you want to hook up with another girl, that probably means that any coersion on your part to get her to do it would be morally bankrupt, and that she is already worried you don't find her attractive.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think you should surprise her... you know, she comes home and there you are with another girl in your bed... she could have a big bow on. Then you shout surprise and the fun begins.


    Or... perhaps you should mention to her that you want to spice up your love life, and she what ideas she has that maybe doesn't involve you jeopardizing your entire relationship...

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Whether or not it will work, at least initially, depends on how comfortable you both are with the idea of your partner having sex with another person. This varies from person to person, and also on the specifics of the situation as well. Some women, for example, are more comfortable with their man having sex with another woman if they get to have sex with another man (couples swapping). Some only feel comfortable if they have sex with the woman, too (called "confirming"). These are things on which people's opinions can change over time, too.

    The way I brought it up with my wife, and the way I think is probably the best, is to directly state a) your desire for more than one partner and b) that this does not mean that you don't love her (assuming that's actually the case).

    What I said to my wife was something along the lines of "The desire for more than one sexual partner is something that's always been a part of me, as much as any other personality trait of mine. I've always fantasized about it, always wanted to do it, and always wanted to see you do it, too. If we don't do swinging it would be something that I'd miss, but no matter what I'll always love you and I'll never leave you whether or not we have sex with other people." A few months later we went to our first swing club , that was 3 years ago, and we've been doing multiple partners ever since. Of course, we were also together for 9 years and married for 5 before I brought it up, so that might play a part in it, too.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    by the way, the 3-some is not the holy grail.



    :winky:

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  • tony_importanttony_important Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    powerss wrote: »
    stigweard wrote: »
    powerss wrote: »
    Fuck. I kinda figured this. I'll wait for more to chime in.

    And yes, it would be another female.

    And what if she says sure, and already has another guy picked out?

    D:

    So you want her to be okay with another girl in your bed, but you're not okay with having another guy there? That's not very Good, Giving, and Game of you.

    How dan savage of you.

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  • tony_importanttony_important Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sentry wrote: »
    I think you should surprise her... you know, she comes home and there you are with another girl in your bed... she could have a big bow on. Then you shout surprise and the fun begins.


    Or... perhaps you should mention to her that you want to spice up your love life, and she what ideas she has that maybe doesn't involve you jeopardizing your entire relationship...

    I have my doubts that the first idea would actually work (I know it was in jest).

    I do think that you should at least talk to get about getting things more spiced up... but Sentry is right, you should ask her and kind of play around with different ideas.

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  • CojonesCojones Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Everyone I know of who's gone on to have a threesome has later regretted doing so; it tends to create a lot of awkwardness and some negative thoughts for at least one of the parties, usually along the lines of "wasn't I enough" or similar.

    It's understandable if your relationship is on the rocks and you're looking pretty desperately for some spice. Someone invariably gets hurt when this kind of thing's involved and I've never seen the point aside from some (really fucking minor) bragging rights the next day.

    Avoid, it really isn't worth it. Oh, and it really isn't the holy grail.

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    edited June 2007
    whuppins wrote: »
    After three and a half years, I bet you already know whether your girlfriend would be into it. Come on, be honest with yourself.

    Yeah, exactly.

    Anybody who knows me knows that I have absolutely no problem with group experiences and I'm not one of the fearmongers who will tell you that all threesomes end in disaster or some such thing.

    However if you have to "broach the subject," don't. If it hasn't come up naturally in the last three years, it isn't going to happen.

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You've been dating your girlfriend for long enough that you should know how she'll react.

    If she needs to be talked into it, persuaded, and begged - maybe you shouldn't go ahead. She'll feel resentful if she doesn't enjoy the thought of it, feel like the entire thing was like watching you cheat on her, etc. etc. I mean, if she's straight and doesn't want to touch the other girl, it's not like she'll be having the same fun with it you are.

    If she's bi and has mentioned being open to the idea in the past, then go ahead.

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  • Peter PrinciplePeter Principle Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    powerss wrote: »
    Evil Gummy wrote: »
    You know, as a girl who was in a long term relationship where this was brought up, and it seemed like a fun idea and all, there was one major issue that popped up.



    FINDING the other girl.


    The reason it didn't work for me and my ex (ex for unrelated reasons), was because he wanted ME to find the other girl and do all the work to convince her to join us in rhapsody and all that.


    That turned me off the idea, because it was easy enough to get other girls interested in fooling around with me, but not with the both of us at the same time.

    So, my advice if she does seem interested in the idea, and you work out the other issues, (at least upfront, all sorts of things pop up in the future.) that you take a very proactive hand in helping the fantasy along if she doesn't want all the responsibility.

    Nothing is worse then the idea that "the fact we're not having threesomes is your fault, try harder." :/

    Excellent points. I will keep this in mind.

    Looking for a SBiF? Swingers websites. Google "swingers" and/or "lifestyle". Better, though, are to go to the on-premise (that is, sex allowed on premise) clubs. That's probably your best bet...of relatively long shot options. I've mentioned this before on here, but it bears repeating: There's a reason the hot single bi female is also known as the "unicorn".

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  • Ashaman42Ashaman42 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Haven't read the entire thread but I've been told by someone with experience in this matter that you should nbever have a threesome with people you actually care about, it just doesn't end well as at least one person will get hurt by it.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    It sounds like by spice up you mean "I want to fuck other women and have my current woman be ok with that". So it would be best at this point to just break up with your girlfriend and keep looking for the greener grass.

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  • SonosSonos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    have one do the sack while the other gives the blowjob.

    wait...what?

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I still have no idea why anyone would want a threesome. It is way too much work for one man, and no one wants another man to help. Even if you've got porn-star stamina, the positions seem pretty limited. And by limited I mean one.

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  • misbehavinmisbehavin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Preacher wrote: »
    It sounds like by spice up you mean "I want to fuck other women and have my current woman be ok with that". So it would be best at this point to just break up with your girlfriend and keep looking for the greener grass.

    This was my sentiment exactly.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    misbehavin wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    It sounds like by spice up you mean "I want to fuck other women and have my current woman be ok with that". So it would be best at this point to just break up with your girlfriend and keep looking for the greener grass.

    This was my sentiment exactly.

    Let's not be so hasty with conclusions.

    The guy is saying "i want a threesome" and you're saying "uh oh! sounds like you're unhappy! better break up!"

    What the fuck.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I still have no idea why anyone would want a threesome. It is way too much work for one man, and no one wants another man to help. Even if you've got porn-star stamina, the positions seem pretty limited. And by limited I mean one.

    Untrue. Fantastically, wonderfully untrue.
    Haven't read the entire thread but I've been told by someone with experience in this matter that you should nbever have a threesome with people you actually care about, it just doesn't end well as at least one person will get hurt by it.
    Only if one person is holding back or being selfish about why they're doing it. Sex isnt' some magical mystery - it's rubbing your slippery bits on someone else for fun. If you're fooling around with two people, be honest about why (sex feels good) and be extra giving.
    Looking for a SBiF? Swingers websites. Google "swingers" and/or "lifestyle". Better, though, are to go to the on-premise (that is, sex allowed on premise) clubs. That's probably your best bet...of relatively long shot options. I've mentioned this before on here, but it bears repeating: There's a reason the hot single bi female is also known as the "unicorn".
    Truth. See also legal brothels.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    ege02 wrote: »
    misbehavin wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    It sounds like by spice up you mean "I want to fuck other women and have my current woman be ok with that". So it would be best at this point to just break up with your girlfriend and keep looking for the greener grass.

    This was my sentiment exactly.

    Let's not be so hasty with conclusions.

    The guy is saying "i want a threesome" and you're saying "uh oh! sounds like you're unhappy! better break up!"

    What the fuck.

    I don't know ege, it sounds like "Well I want to have a sexual threesome, (even to go as far to name the subject The holy Grail: The Threesome) and I have been with my girl for 3+ years so she obviously has some affection for me, maybe it's time I can worm my way into using that against her to do a sexual act I fantasize about, but she might not be to fond of" Especially with his responses regarding convincing her.

    If you want to fuck 2 girls at the same time, and you don't know if your current g/f of 3 years would be down for it, the answer is probably no she wouldn't. If you think that fucking another woman with your g/f will "spice up" your love life then you are looking at it from a purely selfish viewpoint, seeing you get to live out a male fantasy and hoping that in pleasing you, your partner is somehow enriched.

    So yeah my advice break up with your girl if this is what you want and go get a couple hookers for an evening.

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  • misbehavinmisbehavin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    ege02 wrote: »
    misbehavin wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    It sounds like by spice up you mean "I want to fuck other women and have my current woman be ok with that". So it would be best at this point to just break up with your girlfriend and keep looking for the greener grass.

    This was my sentiment exactly.

    Let's not be so hasty with conclusions.

    The guy is saying "i want a threesome" and you're saying "uh oh! sounds like you're unhappy! better break up!"

    What the fuck.

    No, wrong. He didn't say "hey, I want a threesome", he said "hey, I want to spice up my current relationship by having a threesome" and THEN he responded very shocked when some suggested the idea of having a second guy instead of girl... While there is nothing definitive, this does scream "i want to fuck someone else without breaking up with my current girl."

    If I am wrong, however (AS I said earlier) then I suggested working WITH his gf to try and spice up their sex life, as a threesome is not the only way to get some excitement out of sex.

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  • FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    misbehavin wrote: »
    ege02 wrote: »
    misbehavin wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    It sounds like by spice up you mean "I want to fuck other women and have my current woman be ok with that". So it would be best at this point to just break up with your girlfriend and keep looking for the greener grass.

    This was my sentiment exactly.

    Let's not be so hasty with conclusions.

    The guy is saying "i want a threesome" and you're saying "uh oh! sounds like you're unhappy! better break up!"

    What the fuck.

    No, wrong. He didn't say "hey, I want a threesome", he said "hey, I want to spice up my current relationship by having a threesome" and THEN he responded very shocked when some suggested the idea of having a second guy instead of girl... While there is nothing definitive, this does scream "i want to fuck someone else without breaking up with my current girl."

    If I am wrong, however (AS I said earlier) then I suggested working WITH his gf to try and spice up their sex life, as a threesome is not the only way to get some excitement out of sex.

    He wants to act out a fantasy, and his fantasy has only one penis. You would be hard pressed to find a man who prefers a 2 man-1 woman setup over a 2 woman-1 man setup. I think it's a difficult fantasy to enact, but he doesn't think so, along with others here, and as long as it is understood as simply a fantasy there should be no real issues.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I was in a relationship where my girlfriend was curious about threesomes.

    We never got it to work, cause she wanted me to find a chick, and I wanted her to find a chick.

    I think it would have worked with some teamwork. If we both worked a little harder, dammit, it could have worked.

    But yeah, I knew she was probably into it and she brought it up to me. It wasn't that big of a surprise.

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  • Not SarastroNot Sarastro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Sweet! Be sure to tell us what happens if you are stupid enough to decide to ask this of your (it seems pretty apparent) long-term straight girlfriend who has never brought the subject up before.

    Just give some warning first - I'll need to heat up the popcorn.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Unless other "spicing up" has been investigated, is not including a 3rd kind of ... advanced? Seems like there's plenty of things a couple could do together to spice things up. Watch some movies together; if seeing hot girls and guys doing it while you 2 are intimate doesn't direct her thoughts to at least fantasize about a group/threesome experience, I think it unlikely she'd be interested in it herself (and if she's not, don't try to get her to do it "for you" unless you want to F things up).

    Also, there's the finding of the 3rd. You may find that if you chat up the 3rd, she may want to play with you and not your girl; and if she chats up the 3rd, she may want to play with your girl, but not you.

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