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Moving to New Zealand

[Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctorNorwayRegistered User regular
One of my brothers and his family (wife, boys 12 and 10) are moving from Norway to New Zealand for nine months (the maximum allowed on a regular visa) probably from this August.

(The standing joke is that they're moving from to the country that is both the furthest away from and looks the most like Norway.)

They would like to live in on the South Island (they like mountains and are very outdoorsy) in a small but not tiny town (as a frame of reference, there's 200k people in the town they live in in Norway; anything larger is big). They originally looked at Nelson, but the schools there apparently don't allow foreigners.

They're having some trouble finding another location with a school that will take them. And they can't get the visa (or accommodation for that matter) sorted out until they have the school situation in order.

Any Kiwis have any sage advice? On that or other matters. (I'm allowing myself the batsignal of @lonelyahava )

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Oood.

    That's exciting for them! I don't know much about south island living or towns, really.

    For schools that might accept foreign students, you might need to look into the bigger areas like Christchurch, Dunedin, Invercargill.

    Lemme tag some folks that might help as well and then I'll try and do more checking tomorrow (it's just after midnight)

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  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    :heart:

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  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    I'd definitely recommend Nelson as a first pick, so it's a shame they're having trouble there.
    I find it weird that Nelson schools won't take international students. I know Naylund college has an international stream (I helped host some Argentinian students on an inter-school visit once, more than a decade ago), but maybe the school rolls in Nelson are full at the moment.
    Also worth checking Richmond - it's basically south Nelson, but sits across a regional border so technically isn't within city limits and has separate civic services and sometimes doesn't come up in searches if you're looking for 'Nelson'. Motueka is a commutable distance from Nelson, too.

    You could try some of the southern touristy locations that have traditionally had large visa-worker populations, but living there is usually horridly expensive. Queenstown had a bit of a economic crash, they lost so many international workers during lockdown, but I'd probably look to Wanaka over Queenstown. Maybe Cromwell, where you can commute to either.

    Blenheim in Marlborough could be an option - it's a nice enough place, and you can go places from there.

    The cities ahava mentioned are fine also, but it might be worth considering Napier/Hastings in the North Island also? It's a lot like Nelson.

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  • AntoshkaAntoshka Miauen Oil Change LazarusRegistered User regular
    Oddly enough, I'm pretty sure that Timaru had at least one high school that had an international student program.
    However, Blenheim seems like it's likely to have had a fair number of workers for vineyards with similar visas, so probably worth looking into

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  • MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    I'd like to move to Norway, we can swapsies.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Rotorua might even have international streams for school, if we're opening up to the North Island.

    As for living here, things are.... Expensive. Even normally but now, very expensive.

    Food prices have gone up something ridiculous like 20% compared to last year. And that's not really counting on all the extreme weather events lately. We are a nation of islands in the back end of the world, it takes planes and boats to reach us with things, shipping from afar is ridiculous prices.


    That being said, I'm still very happy they I'm here.

    Oh

    @Tef might have some insights on international streams. I think he does work with migrant workers? But that's based off a bad old memory.

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  • MortiousMortious The Nightmare Begins Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Can't give any advice on schools, but both Rotorua and Hastings are very nice.

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    I would highly recommend Rotorua, and if not Rotorua itself, there are some tiny lake towns nearby they might like. My wife are into hiking, camping and mountaineering and we had 1st class walks we could walk to from our front door when we lived in Rotorua. It’s a little different from the more alpine stuff they are probably used to, but I like to think it’d be a refreshing change for them. 5 minutes from the town centre you’re in rainforest that feel like you are about to walk into a dinosaur

    I don’t like the South Island to live. Canterbury is pretty fuckin racist/small minded, though being Norwegian that will be less of an issue but you’ll still cop some of it being a foreigner. Down south there’s a big rich vs poor divide that can be really grating, and it would suck to be on the wrong side of. Dunno what they are doing for work, either taking a sabbatical or working remote I assume? Nice place to visit, wouldn’t want to live there again.

    I’d like to recommend Hawkes bay, but it’s so fuckin expensive here. Maybe somewhere like Waipukurau or Waipawa would be alright, but even then, your outdoorsy stuff is more limited than lakes district or South Island. I feel like it’s mostly cycling or hunting around here.

    Auckland and further north the weather is miserable. Hot, humid, often rainy. Traffic in auckland is really bad, public transport is really bad if you live away from the train lines.

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  • TefTef Registered User regular
    Oh but Rotorua smells like Sulfur very frequently. It’s all geothermal vents and it makes everything smell like rotten eggs. I actually got used to it, but I’ve also spent a lifetime working around industrial chemicals so maybe my perspective is fucked up :shrug:

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  • FishmanFishman Put your goddamned hand in the goddamned Box of Pain. Registered User regular
    Rotorua is close enough to the Central Plateau that you can get to Tongariro and Ruapehu for a weekend if mountains are a thing, while still being handy to Tauranga if you want to head to the Bay of Plenty for a beach day.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    and the 3 times that I've been to Rotorua, I barely noticed the sulfur smell.

    Found a website that has some info on schools that take international students
    http://isenz.com/schools-and-institutions/high-schools/
    ISENZ (International Student Education New Zealand) is a New Zealand based Education Specialist which takes the hassle out of arranging study in New Zealand. We enrol students in a wide selection of top schools, universities, polytechnics and English language schools. We give free advice, help with selecting the best course and institution, and assist in the enrolment process.

    This looks like a govt blog about studying in NZ
    https://blog.studywithnewzealand.govt.nz/category/study/secondary-schooling-in-new-zealand/
    Looks like it links back to this main website
    https://www.studywithnewzealand.govt.nz/en

    This looks more like a local-aimed sight from MoE (Ministry of Education) about what schools are required/needed to have to host International students
    https://www.education.govt.nz/school/student-support/international-student-visitors/

    This is more geared to high school/college instead of secondary school, and to kids that are coming over and living with an NZ family. But might still have some good info on the schooling system in general like on this page https://www.gotonewzealand.co.nz/school-new-zealand/

    I'm going to echo the Central North Island idea of things. Rotorua, Hamilton, Napier, Tauranga. You don't really have to go too far down here to find mountains and nature and outdoorsy things. Even in Auckland, you are still going to be tripping over bushwalks and public reserves and parks.

    I honestly for truth love living in Greater Auckland. I do not live in the city, but up on the North Shore. My area is small enough to really contain all the amenities that I need, I very rarely find having to go into the city for anything (synagogue if I wanted, or the American Food Import Store). Other than that, my own suburb area has cafes, a mall, a swimming pool and gym run by the council, parks and reserves, small block of shops with a fish & chip shop, a Dairy/convenience store, a Bakery (with some amazing pies), and a hair salon. Schools tend to be within walking (on a map) distance (maps always look flat....).

    What I'm trying to say is, while I'm technically in the Big City, I'm in a smaller suburb that feels a lot more like a small town than part of the city.

    There's not much here that's really out of reach of anywhere else here. A 2 hour small plane trip can get you to most of the country.

  • [Expletive deleted][Expletive deleted] The mediocre doctor NorwayRegistered User regular
    Thanks for the input, guys. You're the best. I'll talk to my brother.

    (As for expenses, I'm not concerned. It's not like Norway is cheap, either.)

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    Tef wrote: »
    I would highly recommend Rotorua, and if not Rotorua itself, there are some tiny lake towns nearby they might like. My wife are into hiking, camping and mountaineering and we had 1st class walks we could walk to from our front door when we lived in Rotorua. It’s a little different from the more alpine stuff they are probably used to, but I like to think it’d be a refreshing change for them. 5 minutes from the town centre you’re in rainforest that feel like you are about to walk into a dinosaur

    I don’t like the South Island to live. Canterbury is pretty fuckin racist/small minded, though being Norwegian that will be less of an issue but you’ll still cop some of it being a foreigner. Down south there’s a big rich vs poor divide that can be really grating, and it would suck to be on the wrong side of. Dunno what they are doing for work, either taking a sabbatical or working remote I assume? Nice place to visit, wouldn’t want to live there again.

    I’d like to recommend Hawkes bay, but it’s so fuckin expensive here. Maybe somewhere like Waipukurau or Waipawa would be alright, but even then, your outdoorsy stuff is more limited than lakes district or South Island. I feel like it’s mostly cycling or hunting around here.

    Auckland and further north the weather is miserable. Hot, humid, often rainy. Traffic in auckland is really bad, public transport is really bad if you live away from the train lines.

    Just wanted to second the cantebury/racism stuff. I visit Christchurch regularly (once a year), and it is noticeably VERY white, very colonial compared to Auckland and Wellington (my other usual haunts). also Seconding Auckland on hot, humid and wet - It's sandwhiched between the Waitakere ranges on one side and the barrier islands on the other, and the results are.. yick. Not quite sure how climate change is hitting things - i grew up there, but haven't visited for a couple of years.

    Wellington's pretty lovely, though i'm biased as i live here. Public transport is... okay. Ish. Getting worse currently due to train issues, acceptable if you're near bus lines, small enough that depending on where you live and where you go livery services can actually be a semi-decent (if steep) option.

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  • AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    I live in Christchurch and while I don't mind it, this is not where I would like to live in NZ the most if I had the choice.

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  • The Zombie PenguinThe Zombie Penguin Eternal Hungry Corpse Registered User regular
    I will say that it's inner city is pretty nice. Doing better than Aucklands (last i heard/visited) or Wellington's for sure. But like, that's... nice to visit and things.

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