Having only watched the highlights, my takeaway is Minnesota, maybe figure out how to use one of your fifteen 7 footers to stop the alley oop dunk in your face? I know the those make the best highlights but there were A LOT of those.
Also Edwards really threw that one away at the end on like three possessions, ouch.
Game never should have been that close. They had them backed in the corner most of the game.
Stan has been harping on the Wolves approach to doubling Luka leaving the lob so wide open without them adjusting yet
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Remember when Kevin Love absolutely LOCKED DOWN Steph Curry?
That was cool
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The following is a real conversation you can have.
"Man, can you believe how hard KAT wrecked Dereck Lively in the second quarter?"
"Be more specific."
"When he drilled him with his knee dead-on?"
"More specific than that."
"Lively was on his back for like three minutes?"
"Still doesn't narrow it down."
"The one that made everyone cringe seeing it in slow-mo?"
"For the love of . . . which body part?"
"The back of the head one, not the nut shot."
"THANK you. Yeah that looked bad."
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lively is probably out for a week+ if he goes into the concussion protocol which he probably will, but also the timberwolves are cooked and the mavs will have 9 days before game 1 of the finals so he’ll probably be fine for the next meaningful basketball.
Tatum is great, but he's not consistently great and that's what needs to happen for MVP talks. He's frustrating because he doesn't seem to have that visual hatred of losing that other greats have. When the Celtics are down, you can rarely count on him to put the game on his own shoulders and push back, which is the sign of an MVP. It's especially frustrating because I do think he has the talent to be in the MVP discussions, but not when he folds so easily. With a few seconds left, down 2 points, I'd rather put the ball in the hands of anyone else in the starting 5 (and a few off the bench, Horford and Pritchard).
I'm looking forward to the finals (but I'm a Celtics fan). The Celtics/Pacers was a crazy fun series and, except for a few flagrants in game 4, it was much more enjoyable and less stressful than hoping no one got injured by the Heat's "Culture". I'm obviously cheering for the Celtics - I'm in Maine and have been a fan since the 80s. But mostly, I really want Al Horford to get a ring. Also, I admit, as much as I love watching Luka play, I still hold a bit of a grudge against Kyrie from how he handled his time on the Celtics and his stance on Covid (and how it essentially left the Knicks screwed) and even if it had been Mavs/Pacers would have rooted against him.
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I dislike Tatum. Not because of anything he’s done just the ridiculous discourse around him.
I think it’s pretty cool that the Metroplex have the World Series champs and both their NHL and NBA teams are on the verge of making their sports’ finals and yet the Cowboys are hopeless
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I hate all Boston teams but I especially hate how often ESPN acts like they're the home broadcast for the Celtics.
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Hey! Maybe the Timberwolves miraculous come back?
It could happen.
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Tatum has no transcendent skill but he has absolutely no weaknesses. He is well above average at everything. He can fit on any team and gives you endless options for team construction
He’s not going to ever be the best player in the league but I’m not sure when being a top 6 player who wins every single year and who never misses a game and who plays big minutes and whose team is always good and who does all the little things that help a team win and who by all accounts is a good guy and a good father became something to be treated with such contempt
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I think saying Tatum is a top 6 player is pretty bold when he wasn't even the best Celtic in that series. Jaylen Brown, the guy the Celtics continually looked at trading, was the one carrying them on both ends while Tatum repeatedly floundered in the fourth quarter.
That confuses me too - generally speaking he seems liked by most other teams, I think his son has an unofficial "uncle" on every starting 5, and he's not even one of those players who is in a thousand advertisements. I think somehow hatred of Boston sports has transferred to him no matter what he does. I think the consistent visual of him as a great dad is a very positive thing for the NBA and professional sports in general, as it breaks that stereotype of guys with kids in every town they visit.
I just wish he was more consistent when he needs to ramp things up.
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I would’ve rooted for Boston if they had kept Tacko Fall on the team
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I'm on the side of Russell Westbrook in that I find players putting their kids on camera kind of annoying. It's a thing they only do when they win and its not at all indicative of good parenting.
I'm on the side of Russell Westbrook in that I find players putting their kids on camera kind of annoying. It's a thing they only do when they win and its not at all indicative of good parenting.
I think of it as pandering basically. They know what will get them attention and hits and they use their kids to achieve it.
Tatum has no transcendent skill but he has absolutely no weaknesses. He is well above average at everything. He can fit on any team and gives you endless options for team construction
He’s not going to ever be the best player in the league but I’m not sure when being a top 6 player who wins every single year and who never misses a game and who plays big minutes and whose team is always good and who does all the little things that help a team win and who by all accounts is a good guy and a good father became something to be treated with such contempt
I don't really care if he's a good guy or father, I mean it's good that he is, but I don't take that into consideration when considering how good a player is. And making a team win is always going to look bad when the team you're helping win is a team that the majority of the country doesn't like. His tendency to fold when the pressure is on really counts against him a lot.
I think saying Tatum is a top 6 player is pretty bold when he wasn't even the best Celtic in that series. Jaylen Brown, the guy the Celtics continually looked at trading, was the one carrying them on both ends while Tatum repeatedly floundered in the fourth quarter.
Simply not accurate - tatum outperformed Jaylen statistically all series but also in the 4th quarter (and the one OT).
Game 1, where everyone said jaylen carried - that was the only shot jaylen hit all quarter. Tatum was +20 in 46 minutes in a 5 pt win - Celtics were outscored by 15 in the 7 minutes he sat. Jaylen, +4.
Tatum has no transcendent skill but he has absolutely no weaknesses. He is well above average at everything. He can fit on any team and gives you endless options for team construction
He’s not going to ever be the best player in the league but I’m not sure when being a top 6 player who wins every single year and who never misses a game and who plays big minutes and whose team is always good and who does all the little things that help a team win and who by all accounts is a good guy and a good father became something to be treated with such contempt
I don't really care if he's a good guy or father, I mean it's good that he is, but I don't take that into consideration when considering how good a player is. And making a team win is always going to look bad when the team you're helping win is a team that the majority of the country doesn't like. His tendency to fold when the pressure is on really counts against him a lot.
People just selectively forget his massive games in huge situations. This is a guy who has dropped 46 on the road and 51 in elimination game wins in playoff series. The discourse around this guy is so bizarre
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
I think saying Tatum is a top 6 player is pretty bold when he wasn't even the best Celtic in that series. Jaylen Brown, the guy the Celtics continually looked at trading, was the one carrying them on both ends while Tatum repeatedly floundered in the fourth quarter.
Simply not accurate - tatum outperformed Jaylen statistically all series but also in the 4th quarter (and the one OT).
Game 1, where everyone said jaylen carried - that was the only shot jaylen hit all quarter. Tatum was +20 in 46 minutes in a 5 pt win - Celtics were outscored by 15 in the 7 minutes he sat. Jaylen, +4.
Tatum has no transcendent skill but he has absolutely no weaknesses. He is well above average at everything. He can fit on any team and gives you endless options for team construction
He’s not going to ever be the best player in the league but I’m not sure when being a top 6 player who wins every single year and who never misses a game and who plays big minutes and whose team is always good and who does all the little things that help a team win and who by all accounts is a good guy and a good father became something to be treated with such contempt
I don't really care if he's a good guy or father, I mean it's good that he is, but I don't take that into consideration when considering how good a player is. And making a team win is always going to look bad when the team you're helping win is a team that the majority of the country doesn't like. His tendency to fold when the pressure is on really counts against him a lot.
People just selectively forget his massive games in huge situations. This is a guy who has dropped 46 on the road and 51 in elimination game wins in playoff series. The discourse around this guy is so bizarre
I went back and looked at that Game 1 to make sure I wasn't hallucinating things. Jayson Tatum hit two-pointer with 9:44 remaining in the 4th quarter. He then completely disappears for the rest of the quarter (though he does go 0-4 for the rest of the quarter) and is missing for half of OT before helping put things away. I'm also not a huge fan of +/- since it's so lineup-dependent, and doesn't take into account having exceptional defenders like Brown and Jrue Holliday (and even Derrick White) which helps to hide Tatum and allows him to focus fully on offense.
I don't think anyone here really cares about how good of a father he is (hell, I think Lebron actually gets hate for being too loving of a father and trying to get his son a job he is not qualified for), and more a tendency for Tatum to put up gaudy numbers but fade to the background when the going actually gets tough. Having the easiest road to the NBA Finals in a long time is certainly not helping him beat those allegations.
Quote is broken for me, but in response to the kids on camera discourse. . .
Yes, putting your kids on camera is not at all a sign of being a good father. If in anything, its the opposite. Putting kids in the public spotlight and making them public figures almost always fucks them up. Their are endless stories of YouTube family bloggers and reality stars whose kids are all fucked up from being on camera. Now, coming out every now and again to celebrate with your Dad is not nearly the same thing, but its just sus, in my opinion.
Even more-so is how much daughter-washing so many assholes do, in the NBA and elsewhere. Every time a guy is called out for some abusive bullshit, next thing you see is them talking about, or showing around their daughters, and how they can't possibly be a bad guy because they have daughters. Ja Morant did it pretty blatantly last year, as soon as he got back from his suspension, the first thing he did was make sure he was caught on camera after a game playing with his daughter center frame being the post game interview. Kobe is all-timer for daughter-washing. Draymond did it this year, with his ridiculous sob story about being in the basement and his daughter missing him because he was so sad about seeing consequences for his actions (side point: how the fuck Draymond could tell a story about hiding in his basement for a week, to the point where his daughter didn't even know he was home, and that's supposed to make him look sympathetic and persecuted!? I'm sure any Dads here can tell you that they don't get to take a week off from being around their kids whenever they get sad, and everyone is cool with it).
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Game never should have been that close. They had them backed in the corner most of the game.
Christ, Boston must have hired a witch or something; this is getting ridiculous
That was cool
"Man, can you believe how hard KAT wrecked Dereck Lively in the second quarter?"
"Be more specific."
"When he drilled him with his knee dead-on?"
"More specific than that."
"Lively was on his back for like three minutes?"
"Still doesn't narrow it down."
"The one that made everyone cringe seeing it in slow-mo?"
"For the love of . . . which body part?"
"The back of the head one, not the nut shot."
"THANK you. Yeah that looked bad."
Hope Lively is ok and let's fucking go Mavs!!!
cause god, that was a scary ass injury
Well that sucks.
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Nothing against the players just two teams I basically give zero shits about.
Especially with how much more interesting Timberwolves/Pacers would have felt to watch.
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I really hope it’s Luka so we don’t need the dumbass “didn’t get a ring” factor when analyzing where he rates on the all-timer lists
(None of the Celtics guys are dominant enough for this to matter much there)
He’s good, he’s in the all-nba conversation yeah
But it is really awkward trying to put him in the MVP comversation
I'm looking forward to the finals (but I'm a Celtics fan). The Celtics/Pacers was a crazy fun series and, except for a few flagrants in game 4, it was much more enjoyable and less stressful than hoping no one got injured by the Heat's "Culture". I'm obviously cheering for the Celtics - I'm in Maine and have been a fan since the 80s. But mostly, I really want Al Horford to get a ring. Also, I admit, as much as I love watching Luka play, I still hold a bit of a grudge against Kyrie from how he handled his time on the Celtics and his stance on Covid (and how it essentially left the Knicks screwed) and even if it had been Mavs/Pacers would have rooted against him.
I’ll definitely be rooting for Dallas.
I can’t root for a team from Boston.
It could happen.
He’s not going to ever be the best player in the league but I’m not sure when being a top 6 player who wins every single year and who never misses a game and who plays big minutes and whose team is always good and who does all the little things that help a team win and who by all accounts is a good guy and a good father became something to be treated with such contempt
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I just wish he was more consistent when he needs to ramp things up.
Edit: Derrick White is the true MVP.
But then so did Kyrie and Lively
I think of it as pandering basically. They know what will get them attention and hits and they use their kids to achieve it.
I don't really care if he's a good guy or father, I mean it's good that he is, but I don't take that into consideration when considering how good a player is. And making a team win is always going to look bad when the team you're helping win is a team that the majority of the country doesn't like. His tendency to fold when the pressure is on really counts against him a lot.
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Simply not accurate - tatum outperformed Jaylen statistically all series but also in the 4th quarter (and the one OT).
Game 1, where everyone said jaylen carried - that was the only shot jaylen hit all quarter. Tatum was +20 in 46 minutes in a 5 pt win - Celtics were outscored by 15 in the 7 minutes he sat. Jaylen, +4.
People just selectively forget his massive games in huge situations. This is a guy who has dropped 46 on the road and 51 in elimination game wins in playoff series. The discourse around this guy is so bizarre
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
for every game he scores 40 he’s also going to have another where he vanishes off the face of the earth.
https://x.com/slandman33/status/1795163660362322220
I went back and looked at that Game 1 to make sure I wasn't hallucinating things. Jayson Tatum hit two-pointer with 9:44 remaining in the 4th quarter. He then completely disappears for the rest of the quarter (though he does go 0-4 for the rest of the quarter) and is missing for half of OT before helping put things away. I'm also not a huge fan of +/- since it's so lineup-dependent, and doesn't take into account having exceptional defenders like Brown and Jrue Holliday (and even Derrick White) which helps to hide Tatum and allows him to focus fully on offense.
I don't think anyone here really cares about how good of a father he is (hell, I think Lebron actually gets hate for being too loving of a father and trying to get his son a job he is not qualified for), and more a tendency for Tatum to put up gaudy numbers but fade to the background when the going actually gets tough. Having the easiest road to the NBA Finals in a long time is certainly not helping him beat those allegations.
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Yes, putting your kids on camera is not at all a sign of being a good father. If in anything, its the opposite. Putting kids in the public spotlight and making them public figures almost always fucks them up. Their are endless stories of YouTube family bloggers and reality stars whose kids are all fucked up from being on camera. Now, coming out every now and again to celebrate with your Dad is not nearly the same thing, but its just sus, in my opinion.
Even more-so is how much daughter-washing so many assholes do, in the NBA and elsewhere. Every time a guy is called out for some abusive bullshit, next thing you see is them talking about, or showing around their daughters, and how they can't possibly be a bad guy because they have daughters. Ja Morant did it pretty blatantly last year, as soon as he got back from his suspension, the first thing he did was make sure he was caught on camera after a game playing with his daughter center frame being the post game interview. Kobe is all-timer for daughter-washing. Draymond did it this year, with his ridiculous sob story about being in the basement and his daughter missing him because he was so sad about seeing consequences for his actions (side point: how the fuck Draymond could tell a story about hiding in his basement for a week, to the point where his daughter didn't even know he was home, and that's supposed to make him look sympathetic and persecuted!? I'm sure any Dads here can tell you that they don't get to take a week off from being around their kids whenever they get sad, and everyone is cool with it).