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Taste issues

Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED!Registered User regular
So, I have had an issue for awhile now that I can't fully taste things. Some facts:

1. I can taste things on the side of my tongue but basically not at all on the flat part.
2. I have/had no sense of smell issues (as far as I can tell).
3. I have never had a positive case of COVID or symptoms of COVID.
4. My doctor did a brief examination but saw no signs of infection on my tongue. He did suggest going to my dentist for a follow-up up. I don't mind doing that, but it might be months before they can get me in.

It's odd in that I can taste aspects of food - like I just had a cherry and I can taste the "tartness" but not the actual fruit flavor. To further add to it, sour things are much easier to taste than others.

Finally, I've noticed a slight burned/irritated feeling on my tongue but I don't know if that's because I've been overzealous with tongue scraping to try and fix the issue or something else. No part of my tongue looks different than any other part.

It's really very baffling.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I am not a doctor, but from what I know thst could easily be a symptom of long covid as a result of an asymptomatic infection. You sadly do not need to have experienced a noticeable initial infection to get hit with the long term illness. Worth checking for other things, but suddenly noticing your sense of taste has changed is a big red flag.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    What you are describing has a medical keyword - dysgeusia or ageusia, which will help narrow Google search results. However, your description of taste deficiency is more consistent with the ability to perceive flavor, which is an olfactory function. Your tongue might be fine.

    COVID is a cause of dysgeusia and anosmia, but it's hardly the only one. Anything that inflames the olfactory receptors can prevent you from smelling properly. In addition, bacteria and fungi also do not need to cause an overt infection to mess up your sense of smell - overgrowth in a phlegmon or abscess can cause local bad breath that may overwhelm your sense of smell in the posterior nasal cavity and cause it to habituate to strong smells, making it less capable of picking up on subtle flavors. This smell may be so local that you don't have halitosis others can recognize. GERD can also do this.

    Your senses of smell and taste can also be suppressed by factors altering appetite. Certain drugs and foods can also alter taste and flavor. Lack of certain vitamins and minerals like zinc can impair your taste.

    An ENT specialist or an ornithologist can do an in depth examination of your sinuses and taste mapping, but there's not enough investigation into more common things to make it worth the money, especially if it's been stable for a while.

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    I'm also curious what "awhile" means in this instance. A few weeks, and few months, a few years, most of your life?
    And did anything else change when "awhile" started?

  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    It's been years, though I couldn't say when it first started. I have never lost my ability to taste entirely, just on parts of my tongue. Smell has always been fine as far as I can remember. It being only a partial loss is what made me take so long to notice it.

    It's funny because I remember a year or two ago I was eating string cheese and commenting to my wife it tasted bad - not rotten, but off. She stated it tasted fine and I realize now I was stupid and didn't put 2 and 2 together.

    I also notice things lose taste if I keep eating them - for example, grapes. The first few I can taste fine (on the side of my tongue) but after about a dozen or so the flavor is very muted.

    I was able to get a referral for an ENT but the earliest they had was September 25th, so I'll most likely be continuing to deal with this for a bit longer.

  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    I'm trying to figure out why @Paladin recommended seeing an ornithologist. Are birds nesting inside Magus' nose?

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Ringo wrote: »
    I'm trying to figure out why @Paladin recommended seeing an ornithologist. Are birds nesting inside Magus' nose?

    It was an autocorrect from otolaryngologist but I was kind of wondering if anyone would pick up on it

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
  • RingoRingo He/Him a distinct lack of substanceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2023
    Oh, no wonder everyone calls them ENT doctors, that's a mouthful

    Ringo on
  • HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    Magus` wrote: »
    It's been years, though I couldn't say when it first started. I have never lost my ability to taste entirely, just on parts of my tongue. Smell has always been fine as far as I can remember. It being only a partial loss is what made me take so long to notice it.

    It's funny because I remember a year or two ago I was eating string cheese and commenting to my wife it tasted bad - not rotten, but off. She stated it tasted fine and I realize now I was stupid and didn't put 2 and 2 together.

    I also notice things lose taste if I keep eating them - for example, grapes. The first few I can taste fine (on the side of my tongue) but after about a dozen or so the flavor is very muted.

    I was able to get a referral for an ENT but the earliest they had was September 25th, so I'll most likely be continuing to deal with this for a bit longer.

    I'm guessing no but are you a smoker?

  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    I am not, no.

  • KetarKetar Registered User regular
    edited August 2023
    I currently have covid and have lost my senses of smell and taste. What is left of taste for me is very similar to what you're experiencing - I get vague impressions of sweet, bitter or sour, but only on the sides of my tongue near the back. Cannot detect any individual flavors at all.

    Ketar on
  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    I mean, statistically it would make the most sense and I'll take diminished taste over, say, death but yeah. Is losing partial (never full) taste but never losing smell a thing? Do the non-tasting parts of your tongue feel tingly?

    Also, it might explain why I'm chronically tired - I just assumed that was weight gain and lack of exercise and not being able to sleep well.

  • KetarKetar Registered User regular
    It's definitely possible to lose taste or smell without the other, yes. In part or completely.

    I have not noticed any tingling in my tongue.

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Tongue based tastes are very rudimentary. The subtleties of flavor are overwhelmingly based on olfaction. You can discern a hundred thousand different flavors because of your sense of smell.

    This number of flavors can diminish without you noticing a change in your overall sense of smell, much like your ability to hear a broad array of frequencies diminishes without you noticing that you're more deaf. If it happens slowly enough, your brain is trained to ignore the deficit so you don't get stressed out about it. If you test your smell by sniffing coffee or whatever, can you really be sure it smells as strong as it did 10 years ago? With that slow of a change, you can easily lose thousands of flavors over time without noticing that your sense of smell has weakened overall.

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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