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[Star Wars] actually maybe I don't want to talk about Star Wars anymore
Grey Ghost
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I mostly just want to talk about KOTOR, which I finally will play to completion to follow along with the A More Civilized Age podcast playing it instead of covering Star Wars shows due to the writer's and actor's strike. I just left Dantooine! It's the furthest I've ever made it in this game.
But you know, I have to say, there's some interesting stuff going on in Ahsoka. I don't know how it'll pan out, and generally I have not loved the way Dawson plays her, but there are some cool ideas in those first two episodes. And a couple of things that made my KOTOR-playing ass do the DiCaprio pointing meme at my TV
I didn't plan on being the one to make the next thread because I am generally a lot cooler on Star Wars these days than I used to be, and I think they just don't have the juice anymore, but here we are. Anyway, let's all talk about who's the worst KOTOR companion (it's Carth)
I hear tell there are actually other Star Wars games too! y'all probably played this one already:
https://youtu.be/bmj3ty-Wt48?si=bQMfUWL_wXmR_kUA
and this one is coming up and some of you sickos will probably be into it
https://youtu.be/ymcpwq1ltQc?si=hiKtgBTeniJVcKWf
But you know, I have to say, there's some interesting stuff going on in Ahsoka. I don't know how it'll pan out, and generally I have not loved the way Dawson plays her, but there are some cool ideas in those first two episodes. And a couple of things that made my KOTOR-playing ass do the DiCaprio pointing meme at my TV
I didn't plan on being the one to make the next thread because I am generally a lot cooler on Star Wars these days than I used to be, and I think they just don't have the juice anymore, but here we are. Anyway, let's all talk about who's the worst KOTOR companion (it's Carth)
I hear tell there are actually other Star Wars games too! y'all probably played this one already:
https://youtu.be/bmj3ty-Wt48?si=bQMfUWL_wXmR_kUAand this one is coming up and some of you sickos will probably be into it
https://youtu.be/ymcpwq1ltQc?si=hiKtgBTeniJVcKWf Grey Ghost on
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In the distant past. All new characters. We got Sith and Jedi, okay, great.
Then the st
But then that's true for a lot of CRPGs these days for me, I cannot get my attention span to click with that genre for some reason
Also, I'm really interested in this idea that Ahsoka took Sabine as an apprentice and they aren't setting up that she's Force sensitive at all. Just training a regular person to be a Jedi. The flip side of this is that I know in the long run there will be exactly nothing about this concept that sticks around because we ultimately have to wind up in the narrative dead end that is Rise of Skywalker
It's also very much a product of it's time. It was released in 2003 with all of the jank that brings looking at it twenty years later. At the time it was very special.
Steam and whatever fix it mod had the highest rating
It gets discounted to like $0.99 every steam sale
My big problem is that throughout all of star wars, probably (I think) the most core principle is that force users/jedi aren't made, they're born.
We have four seasons of Sabine not only explicitly not being a force user, but also several multi episode arcs where they specifically address that she does not have that connection to the force, and she doesn't need it because she's badass enough on her own.
Let cool characters exist outside of Jedi! Just let them fuckin exist!
I'm hopeful that they have her back in her mando armour at the end of ep2, but give that girl back her jetpack.
I also find rosario dawson is just so stiff. Like yeah ahsoka's been through a lot, and she would be serious when she needed to but at the core of the character she was still a positive person, and during her downtime would tend towards light-hearted moments. She shouldn't just be gloomy all the fuckin time.
Eye of Scion, I think.
As in "heir."
You know, to perhaps some sort of national unit.
Regarding your last point:
Because right now robotic David Tennant is bringing more energy and character to the show than the lead character.
Although I would say this is a signature problem across most of the Disney+ Star Wars television shows. They're so in love with the idea of their lead/legacy characters being epic that they lock them into 'Stoic Badass' mode, which, isn't a choice I as an audience member find all that captivating!
I played through the game several times and by far the best thing to do is romance him and go full sith and you end up scaring the shit out of him and he runs off.
Satans..... hints.....
I don't have Disney so I accidently saw two shorts on YT {and it took be to the unfun place of showing me red pill shit}
Why didn't Ahsoka teach Sabine how to use a light saber? There are people who had light sabers {Most of the people who touched the dark saber} And Grievous. So she could of shown her some of the different styles and see which one worked with her Mandalorian skills?
Give her the jetpack!
And I think that’s the big angle they’re making for the show. That Jedi just aren’t skywalkers and a handful of others and it’s a story line I find more interesting than I thought I would.
Satans..... hints.....
I still feel if Liam Neeson played Qui gon Jinn as his character from Taken it would have made more sense why Obi-Wan believed in more of the noble and justice of the force and was unable to see why Anakin was sliding into the dark side {I know this is not how it was shown in the movies} The less savory and primal aspects
I do make fun of how it was the WEG rpg and certain people ruined Jedi for me. coupled with how they are really trying now to give a background to the Mandalorians other than they fight good
This is why I was disappointed in the Force Awakens movies as I wanted Rey to be herself not part of the Skywalkers or Any of characters to be shown the Force has Awakened
One the biggest missed opportunities of modern Star Wars has been not exploring the different ways the force can manifest in people.
It could be real interesting to see a wide variety of skills or specialties and how some people could have minor force sensitivity.
Instead we get Jedi or Sith with that usual suite of abilities and everyone's a Skywalker.
For some reason the game feels much more insufferably slow and clumsy than KotOR1.
Also a lot more bleak.
And the only interesting character is Kreia. (Who is so very clearly NOT a Sith. Sith? What's a Sith? Never heard of 'em. MUST you label EVERYTHING?)
Kotor 1's backwater coruscant felt like a more appropriate, if generic for star wars, beginning sequence.
Wild that it's been 20 years since the game first dropped! Still don't think the "you're exploring the galaxy as your own character" vibe that game managed to land (granted didn't play the MMO) has been matched - the trailers for those newer games just give the impression of "hey you like star wars for the running gunning jumping pew pew right?!?!"
Kotor2 starts in the survival horror genre and nothing you know from Kotor1, Star Wars in general, or anything Kreia or Atton says is going to help shed light on what is going on until you get off that station. Then you get to build a crew, all of whom are lying to you but will only reward you when you figure out how to act in line with their real goals, fight badguys and/or Jedi Masters whose goals and conflicts are only vaguely explained, have to deal with several storylines that are unfinished dead ends and pin your hopes on really enjoying Kreia's provocative thoughts on the Lightside/Darkside paradigm and its effects on the mechanics of the video game itself. And yeah, the game can be bleak as hell because even if you're trying to shepherd everyone to a Lightside happy ending, not only do you have to uncover/resolve everyone's tragic backstory, your character isn't really saving the universe so much as finishing a fight they never started, and oh by the way Kreia's always there to tell you exactly how much your good intentions are worth vis a vis unintended consequences.
I like playing Kotor2, and I love the overall idea of it, but if you aren't picking up what it's putting down that game is a messy slog whose sole payoff may end up being Kreia simply telling you you played it wrong.
I respect the attempt but I feel like Kreia was more missed opportunity than anything.
If I remember correctly kreia always tells you that you made the wrong choice. What she wants you to say is that you learned a lesson from the interaction.
Satans..... hints.....
Even then, she tells you that you killed her the wrong way and she's very disappointed in your failure to learn her lessons.
Oh no, I am talking about the full Darkside version of the late game scene at the Enclave on Dantooine
However if you killed the Jedi Masters when you fought them earlier, there's no one to face at the Enclave and eventually Kreia berates you for being a failure of a student who refused to listen and to learn from her, robbing her of a victory over the Jedi by forcing them to see she was right. She stabs herself with a lightsaber to disable you through the bond and then tells you to wait here and die with all of her dreams. Kreia then leaves and your companions rescue your comatose form.
It's a very different scene if you played that way
I'm going full light side as is my wont, but I'm in the middle of doing the Genoharadan bounty quest, which gives me dark side points even though all of my targets seem like cartoonishly evil scumbags. Oh well. Companions don't seem to react to this quest at all but I still like to bring Canderous and Juhani along for these encounters because I feel like they'd be least troubled by going to kill some mysterious shady dude just because I said so. Sometimes you gotta do some dirt
Ahsoka episode 4
Well I would have lost my shit if it was these two: