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SomeBODY once told me some Sad News (RIP Steve Harwell)

Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
I was a big Smashmouth band when they first came out. They had a unique sound and made some fun music.

As they got more commercial later on and started doing more covers I tapered off but they were never bad.

His death comes from liver failure due to alcoholism that began when his 6 month old son died of Leukemia.

He did manage to raise $15,000 for a children’s hospital when he accepted a dare to eat 24 eggs.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    https://youtu.be/NdW4XhYLzbk

    Steve Harwell was a complicated fuckin' character, and all that comes up in the magic 8 ball of my brain right now is this video

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    Walking on the sun is a great song about how the boomers were only in it for the money.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Jeez... To drink yourself to liver failure. I.. don't have words.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Mentioned this in another thread, but Smash Mouth was my first ever favorite band, and is tied into some pretty formative memories for me. 56 is way too young, and it's terrible his last few years were so rough

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    UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Mortal Sky wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/NdW4XhYLzbk

    Steve Harwell was a complicated fuckin' character, and all that comes up in the magic 8 ball of my brain right now is this video

    Why does the one on the left look like Drew scanlon the blinking white guy

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2023
    Athenor wrote: »
    Jeez... To drink yourself to liver failure. I.. don't have words.

    I can’t imagine losing a child at 6 months old.

    That’s also the same way my Dad died though add in a LOT of hard drugs over the years too.

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    TayaTaya Registered User regular
    I don't know anything about Mr. Smash Mouth and what he was like as person or what he believed in, but some people are retweeting this tweet:



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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    I hear he was doing nazi salutes and saying slurs on stage towards the end so that tweet is a pretty wild juxtaposition
    he collapsed on stage the same year as that tweet, I wonder if he had a stroke that fucked with his head

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    I hear he was doing nazi salutes and saying slurs on stage towards the end so that tweet is a pretty wild juxtaposition
    he collapsed on stage the same year as that tweet, I wonder if he had a stroke that fucked with his head

    I'm not saying it's excusable, but he was pretty fucking drunk after his child died.

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    He was doing the doing the IRL version of posting through it.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User, Moderator mod
    I want to believe it was just the probable stroke fucking him up and he didn't just fall down the radicalization hole, but we'll probably never know, and whatever the reason he did fall down that hole. A shame. I will still enjoy Astro Lounge.

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    Mercutio87Mercutio87 So build that wall and build it strong cause We'll be there before too longRegistered User regular
    One thing about advanced cirrhosis is since your liver isn’t effectively filtering toxins out of your body, it can impair thinking. To the point where the person can seem drunk all the time, have personality shifts, confusion, etc. We have a relative who’s been slowly dying from alcoholism, it is not a fate I’d wish on anyone, he stopped being the person we knew him as years ago.
    Walking on the sun is still a great song.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Mercutio87 wrote: »
    One thing about advanced cirrhosis is since your liver isn’t effectively filtering toxins out of your body, it can impair thinking. To the point where the person can seem drunk all the time, have personality shifts, confusion, etc. We have a relative who’s been slowly dying from alcoholism, it is not a fate I’d wish on anyone, he stopped being the person we knew him as years ago.
    Walking on the sun is still a great song.

    He was also diagnosed with wet brain so yeah, pretty much.

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    JokermanJokerman Everything EverywhereRegistered User regular
    Fuckinv tragic way to go

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Smash mouth was my first concert.

    Saw em in the 8th grade. Took some friends from home economics class (my dad's job had gotten him tickets and he didn't want to go).

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I don’t remember a negative thing about Steve Hartwell until closer to the end when he was just completely fucked up.

    You can look at it either way, but I’m choosing to believe that was never “him” doing the awful shit.

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    Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Jokerman wrote: »
    Walking on the sun is a great song about how the boomers were only in it for the money.

    Yeah and Fush Yu Mang as an album has a lot of songs that go way harder than their later stuff, even if some of the lyrics haven't necessarily aged perfectly

    It's a bummer that a sudden spike in fame was followed so sharply by sudden subsequent personal tragedy, Harwell clearly had a complex life in a way basically no one deserves

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    I unironically love All Star.

    It's a constant in my running playlist and always makes me smile. Just a positive, fun song.

    And they never seemed to be embarrassed about it success either, even though they had plenty of other enjoyable songs. Dude always seemed glad to sing it.

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    MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I can't try to understand what the death of a child would do to me, but I can confidentlysay it would not lead me to saluting Nazis.

    (I've seen enough footage of that concert to feel confident that is what he was doing)

    I am in the business of saving lives.
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    mcpmcp Registered User regular
    The last week or so when I'm practicing my bass, I've been playing All Star for a few minutes. It's just fun little song

    Everytime something like this comes up, I learn new shit about alcohol. Wet brain? What the fuck

    Makes me reconsider poisoning myself with the shit

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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    I once walked in on my brother and his girlfriend going at it to Might As Well Be Walking On The Sun.

    You can tell it was a long time ago, because teens were going at it to Smashmouth and because a kid walked in to tell one of the participants that her mom had called and was currently waiting on the landline.

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    NobeardNobeard North Carolina: Failed StateRegistered User regular
    Mercutio87 wrote: »
    One thing about advanced cirrhosis is since your liver isn’t effectively filtering toxins out of your body, it can impair thinking. To the point where the person can seem drunk all the time, have personality shifts, confusion, etc. We have a relative who’s been slowly dying from alcoholism, it is not a fate I’d wish on anyone, he stopped being the person we knew him as years ago.
    Walking on the sun is still a great song.

    There are very, very few things that can plausibly explain away a Nazi salute or going COVID denier. Advanced alcoholism is one of those things.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    I can't try to understand what the death of a child would do to me, but I can confidentlysay it would not lead me to saluting Nazis.

    (I've seen enough footage of that concert to feel confident that is what he was doing)

    I don’t think anyone is trying to forgive what he did but provide context. At that point of his life his brain had been destroyed to the point where I don’t want to hold him accountable for his actions now that he’s died.

    I don’t begrudge anyone for making that choice but I know and have seen what alcohol/drugs can do firsthand so I’m probably more forgiving than most.

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