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Basic attacks, you say...
Well, it seems like there's a lot less value for killing them if you're not using a dot team, but I'll certainly see if Qingque can do some work anyway.
Basic attacks, you say...
Well, it seems like there's a lot less value for killing them if you're not using a dot team, but I'll certainly see if Qingque can do some work anyway.
And Dragon Dan.
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AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
Basic attacks, you say...
Well, it seems like there's a lot less value for killing them if you're not using a dot team, but I'll certainly see if Qingque can do some work anyway.
As someone just starting this game should I spend tickets on Sparkle or save them for someone else? I definitely don't have the party or items to make best use of her skills but I really like her design. The only other Quantum element person I have is Qingque.
As someone just starting this game should I spend tickets on Sparkle or save them for someone else? I definitely don't have the party or items to make best use of her skills but I really like her design. The only other Quantum element person I have is Qingque.
Sparkle will be useful pretty much no matter what, so rolling for her is certainly not a bad idea. Getting some good support options early is very helpful, so you can't go wrong. That said, if I was being purely objective, I think I'd recommend prioritizing picking up a strong defensive character. Luocha is getting a rerun next week, and then Aventurine is being released after that, and Fu Xuan is expected to get a rerun sometime after that. Any one of those characters would be incredibly helpful for you.
As someone just starting this game should I spend tickets on Sparkle or save them for someone else? I definitely don't have the party or items to make best use of her skills but I really like her design. The only other Quantum element person I have is Qingque.
Sparkle will be useful pretty much no matter what, so rolling for her is certainly not a bad idea. Getting some good support options early is very helpful, so you can't go wrong. That said, if I was being purely objective, I think I'd recommend prioritizing picking up a strong defensive character. Luocha is getting a rerun next week, and then Aventurine is being released after that, and Fu Xuan is expected to get a rerun sometime after that. Any one of those characters would be incredibly helpful for you.
I got Gepard as my free 5 star but haven't used him yet as I don't have a true healer yet but I should be getting Natasha soon.
As someone just starting this game should I spend tickets on Sparkle or save them for someone else? I definitely don't have the party or items to make best use of her skills but I really like her design. The only other Quantum element person I have is Qingque.
Sparkle will be useful pretty much no matter what, so rolling for her is certainly not a bad idea. Getting some good support options early is very helpful, so you can't go wrong. That said, if I was being purely objective, I think I'd recommend prioritizing picking up a strong defensive character. Luocha is getting a rerun next week, and then Aventurine is being released after that, and Fu Xuan is expected to get a rerun sometime after that. Any one of those characters would be incredibly helpful for you.
I got Gepard as my free 5 star but haven't used him yet as I don't have a true healer yet but I should be getting Natasha soon.
If you've got Gepard, you really can't go wrong chasing Luocha.
Not because they have much by way of synergy, but because it'll let you match your support to the situation and they're both rock-solid.
Yeah, if you have Geppy, that dramatically reduces the demand for Aventurine. Would still recommend either Luocha or Fu Xuan. Not to say that you have to hoard for one of them; you can absolutely get by with Gepard and Natasha (and eventually Lynx).
I've seen Aventurine throwing out shields big enough that teams have been replacing their healer entirely with him, so he will absolutely still be a good pick when he comes around. He just won't be around for a good two months yet.
Gallagher is rolling around in a little over a week as well and he won't be too hard to hit as he's also a 4*. He will also be an option on a free 4* choice we'll get some time next patch as well.
Great, good to know. I'm so early in the game I'm not hugely concerned about getting the perfect synergy as long as I have the right elements for the enemies I'm fighting.
Shielder or healer ("sustain")
Support (buffer)
Support (buffer or debuffer) or off-DPS
Main DPS
And for endgame stuff you are asked to field two separate teams.
Sparkle is a very good buffing support. And unlike Bronya, who is all over all of the content you will read from the first year of the game, Sparkle should work pretty well even as you're progressing. (Bronya is almost incapable of actually doing her job until you're pretty deep into the endgame grind, IMO).
That said, there are lots of 4* characters that do a fine job in various supporting roles (Pela, Tingyun, Hanya, Guinafen) so you may not need her.
I might recommend rolling some on Sparkle now, and then next update (about a week out) you have a choice between Acheron who is supposed to be nutso busto DPS and Luocha who is a very strong healer. Both banners will have Gallagher in the 4* slot, who should also be a fairly strong healer.
Fry on
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ShadowfireVermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered Userregular
Also early on, your team comp is gonna be TrailBlazer and your three favorites. Don't worry too much about anything besides that for now. If you really like Sparkle's design, she's a strong support that will likely stay strong for a long time. You can't go wrong there.
Apparently there's some sort of DoT and basic attack buff this MoC, but those trotters and all the bosses are weak to Quantum, so it was finally E6 Xueyi's time to shine. I just retired Dan and gave Fall of an Aeon to her, probably for good. I even had a chance to use Bronya and Ratio.
Sam's not very scary when you chew through his entire toughness bar in a turn or two. I probably should've ran Ruan Mei with her to make it even faster, though.
Xueyi is seriously so underrated. Or maybe just underrepresented? Too many people have Seele since she was the first limited character, plus Qingque's existence. Xueyi's really not far behind at all.
After the dire situation with quantum weak things last time, I'm glad they threw us a bone this time.
Xueyi is seriously so underrated. Or maybe just underrepresented? Too many people have Seele since she was the first limited character, plus Qingque's existence. Xueyi's really not far behind at all.
After the dire situation with quantum weak things last time, I'm glad they threw us a bone this time.
I think there has to be a high confluence of things for a given account to be able to field Xueyi:
- she really wants a lot of eidolons. Definitely at least 2, probably all 6. And she's only been featured on I think one banner?
- you need to not already have another sick Quantum DPS, and older accounts probably at least have QQ built up
- you need to be able to field a team that is constantly hitting weakness. This is the main problem for me right now, honestly, as a newer player who rolled on one of her banners; I'm very limited in what elements I can hit with my sustains and supports
Never got Seele, and QQ is still somehow at E3. But Xueyi's niche seems way more fun than theirs, and much less frustrating than gambling every turn.
And yeah, nobody making the tier lists and videos is going to bother using her when there's easier options. Her entire gimmick also makes her ineligible for 0 cycle clears.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
Yeah the way the meta is, if Aventurine couldn't act as a solo sustain, he would be the worst limited character released by a mile and nobody would use him.
Outside of the 4* options, you are generally running one Preservation or Abundance.
Also, the next MC class will actually probably help Xueyi
Xueyi is seriously so underrated. Or maybe just underrepresented? Too many people have Seele since she was the first limited character, plus Qingque's existence. Xueyi's really not far behind at all.
After the dire situation with quantum weak things last time, I'm glad they threw us a bone this time.
I think there has to be a high confluence of things for a given account to be able to field Xueyi:
- she really wants a lot of eidolons. Definitely at least 2, probably all 6. And she's only been featured on I think one banner?
- you need to not already have another sick Quantum DPS, and older accounts probably at least have QQ built up
- you need to be able to field a team that is constantly hitting weakness. This is the main problem for me right now, honestly, as a newer player who rolled on one of her banners; I'm very limited in what elements I can hit with my sustains and supports
She's also currently is dead weight on enemies that are already weakness broken. This will be helped by the next TB path, but she'll probably need to be permanently paired with them to be of good use.
Trust me, Xueyi is still hitting for 30k-50k with skill or ult on already broken enemies. Her damage is still fine, it's just the breaks and Quantum damage debuff that's really nuts.
Basic attacks, you say...
Well, it seems like there's a lot less value for killing them if you're not using a dot team, but I'll certainly see if Qingque can do some work anyway.
Qingque can, in fact, do work. Wound up clearing this entire MoC using basically the same two teams:
DoT team: Kafka, Ruan Mei, Luocha, and either of Sampo/Luka/Guinaifen depending on enemy weaknesses
Mono Quantum: Fu Xuan, Qingque, Sparkle, and either Silver Wolf or Pela depending on if the elites were all already weak to quantum or not.
There were no concerns for time, but health did get a little dicey in 12-2, which I expected. Actually had to retry it, because I accidentally took Pela over Silver Wolf the first time, and that turned out to not be at all sufficient.
I would be cautious about Acheron for a new player. She needs a very, very specific team comp to work, and right now, that's really limited. It'll naturally open up as more units come out, but your checklist should probably be something like:
Have at least two of Silver Wolf/Pela/Guinaifen built? Preferably at least E1 on Pela/Guinaifen?
Have Resolution Shines like Pearls of Sweat?
Have enough pulls to get her AND her signature light cone?
Each of those you answer no to, her power is going to drop a very significant amount, and even at max, she looks comparable to the current top characters. And even then, you still likely want a shielder with Trend of the Universal Market to really get her juiced, which is also not a given since those are pretty much just Gepard, Fu Xuan, and Aventurine (though FMC does absolutely work for PF). She still won't play well with any busted upcoming Harmony characters coming up, though with three pretty recently, I wouldn't be surprised to see a break from them for a span. That said, there has been a Nihility sustain datamined that will open up Acheron immensely, but no promise it's coming any time soon.
Also, Jingliu is a few weeks later, and is a beast in a rare DPS element that tons of enemies are weak to, who gets a boatload of free stats, so is much easier and simpler to build.
So, Emanator of Finality after all then? I don't think an Emanator of the Hunt would be able to pull off the metaphysical torture rondo Black Swan got sucked into.
Looking forward to 2.1 and staying well clear of HSR main reddit just in case.
Going to need to try and get Jingliu's E1 for sure, and her light cone. However I still will have to roll on Acheron because Gallagher will be the featured on her banner but will NOT be on Aventurine/Jingliu's banner, annoyingly. (Lynx/Luka/Serval banner, bleh)
Also worth noting that they've already announced they will be resetting the first time top-up bonuses on the crystals in 2.1 so if you were thinking of putting any money in and you've already previously gotten the benefit, I'd recommend holding off until the patch.
I see they weren't content with just the in-game animation creep, and had to go super hard on the animated short for Acheron as well. That video was something else. Really makes me look forward to her character trailer.
I don't know that I'll be able to justify rolling for her, though... not only am I content with Kafka for my AOE lightning needs, but they would be fighting over the same light cone. Maybe I'll just roll a little bit, hope to get Gallagher, and be happy if Acheron shows up. I suppose that alt account I was using with Xueyi is lacking a lightning DPS, so maybe I can get her there. That account lacks Silver Wolf and Guinaifen, though...
Acheron is neat as a character, and I do think she's going to be very strong because she's a Raiden/Mei aka Hoyoverse's favorite child, but yeah I'm having a hard time thinking of ways I'd "need" her. Her LC choices are very limited, her team compositions are strict, and while her technique is a nice to have in SU I'm not really having any problems blowing up trash mobs already between Team Nihility and Team Have An Ice Day.
I'll just pick up Gallagher from the 4 Star Choice Ticket we'll be getting for anniversary. They've already revealed he's gonna be on it.
I'm thinking about going after Jingliu. She should work well with Bronya, yeah? Between her turns not always requiring SP, and having the massive amount of Crit Rate to take advantage of Bronya's buffs to Crit Damage.
I kinda don't need any of these characters and I think i hit my limit pulling on sparkle so I'll be at 60 pity for whomever is next. I think the jingliu lightcone might actually be the right call for me since I omega lucked into a double jingliu pull on her first run.
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ShadowfireVermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered Userregular
I'm thinking about going after Jingliu. She should work well with Bronya, yeah? Between her turns not always requiring SP, and having the massive amount of Crit Rate to take advantage of Bronya's buffs to Crit Damage.
Am I crazy or is Acheron's cone super-good for Welt?
Yeah, I don't see why not. The only asterisk I can think of is that his skill doesn't necessarily hit all enemies, so his ult would not be boosted against anything he didn't hit.
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AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
Am I crazy or is Acheron's cone super-good for Welt?
Yeah, I don't see why not. The only asterisk I can think of is that his skill doesn't necessarily hit all enemies, so his ult would not be boosted against anything he didn't hit.
Right. It's really more that it's an Erudition cone dressed up as Nihility, which is kind of what he's been waiting on since launch.
The thing about Welt is that he can be used in different ways. Yeah, if your priority is setting back the enemies to the stone age, then Acheron's LC probably isn't his best choice. But it might allow him to serve as a pretty solid plain-old damage dealer.
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AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
The thing about Welt is that he can be used in different ways. Yeah, if your priority is setting back the enemies to the stone age, then Acheron's LC probably isn't his best choice. But it might allow him to serve as a pretty solid plain-old damage dealer.
Yeah, I've been using him mostly as a Sub-DPS for Ratio since I got him off 300. It Is Not Your Turn teams are fun, though.
Wow. The long/detailed description for Why Hasn't Everything Disappeared Yet is somehow more confusing/misleading than the short description. All this time I thought it was "one random DoT ticks an extra time", no, it's every DoT ticks an extra time. That would've been nice to know
Wow. The long/detailed description for Why Hasn't Everything Disappeared Yet is somehow more confusing/misleading than the short description. All this time I thought it was "one random DoT ticks an extra time", no, it's every DoT ticks an extra time. That would've been nice to know
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Well, it seems like there's a lot less value for killing them if you're not using a dot team, but I'll certainly see if Qingque can do some work anyway.
And Dragon Dan.
And Blade, and especially Luka.
Sparkle will be useful pretty much no matter what, so rolling for her is certainly not a bad idea. Getting some good support options early is very helpful, so you can't go wrong. That said, if I was being purely objective, I think I'd recommend prioritizing picking up a strong defensive character. Luocha is getting a rerun next week, and then Aventurine is being released after that, and Fu Xuan is expected to get a rerun sometime after that. Any one of those characters would be incredibly helpful for you.
I got Gepard as my free 5 star but haven't used him yet as I don't have a true healer yet but I should be getting Natasha soon.
If you've got Gepard, you really can't go wrong chasing Luocha.
Not because they have much by way of synergy, but because it'll let you match your support to the situation and they're both rock-solid.
Gallagher is rolling around in a little over a week as well and he won't be too hard to hit as he's also a 4*. He will also be an option on a free 4* choice we'll get some time next patch as well.
Shielder or healer ("sustain")
Support (buffer)
Support (buffer or debuffer) or off-DPS
Main DPS
And for endgame stuff you are asked to field two separate teams.
Sparkle is a very good buffing support. And unlike Bronya, who is all over all of the content you will read from the first year of the game, Sparkle should work pretty well even as you're progressing. (Bronya is almost incapable of actually doing her job until you're pretty deep into the endgame grind, IMO).
That said, there are lots of 4* characters that do a fine job in various supporting roles (Pela, Tingyun, Hanya, Guinafen) so you may not need her.
I might recommend rolling some on Sparkle now, and then next update (about a week out) you have a choice between Acheron who is supposed to be nutso busto DPS and Luocha who is a very strong healer. Both banners will have Gallagher in the 4* slot, who should also be a fairly strong healer.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
Sam's not very scary when you chew through his entire toughness bar in a turn or two. I probably should've ran Ruan Mei with her to make it even faster, though.
After the dire situation with quantum weak things last time, I'm glad they threw us a bone this time.
I think there has to be a high confluence of things for a given account to be able to field Xueyi:
- she really wants a lot of eidolons. Definitely at least 2, probably all 6. And she's only been featured on I think one banner?
- you need to not already have another sick Quantum DPS, and older accounts probably at least have QQ built up
- you need to be able to field a team that is constantly hitting weakness. This is the main problem for me right now, honestly, as a newer player who rolled on one of her banners; I'm very limited in what elements I can hit with my sustains and supports
And yeah, nobody making the tier lists and videos is going to bother using her when there's easier options. Her entire gimmick also makes her ineligible for 0 cycle clears.
Outside of the 4* options, you are generally running one Preservation or Abundance.
Also, the next MC class will actually probably help Xueyi
She's also currently is dead weight on enemies that are already weakness broken. This will be helped by the next TB path, but she'll probably need to be permanently paired with them to be of good use.
Qingque can, in fact, do work. Wound up clearing this entire MoC using basically the same two teams:
DoT team: Kafka, Ruan Mei, Luocha, and either of Sampo/Luka/Guinaifen depending on enemy weaknesses
Mono Quantum: Fu Xuan, Qingque, Sparkle, and either Silver Wolf or Pela depending on if the elites were all already weak to quantum or not.
There were no concerns for time, but health did get a little dicey in 12-2, which I expected. Actually had to retry it, because I accidentally took Pela over Silver Wolf the first time, and that turned out to not be at all sufficient.
I would be cautious about Acheron for a new player. She needs a very, very specific team comp to work, and right now, that's really limited. It'll naturally open up as more units come out, but your checklist should probably be something like:
Have at least two of Silver Wolf/Pela/Guinaifen built? Preferably at least E1 on Pela/Guinaifen?
Have Resolution Shines like Pearls of Sweat?
Have enough pulls to get her AND her signature light cone?
Each of those you answer no to, her power is going to drop a very significant amount, and even at max, she looks comparable to the current top characters. And even then, you still likely want a shielder with Trend of the Universal Market to really get her juiced, which is also not a given since those are pretty much just Gepard, Fu Xuan, and Aventurine (though FMC does absolutely work for PF). She still won't play well with any busted upcoming Harmony characters coming up, though with three pretty recently, I wouldn't be surprised to see a break from them for a span. That said, there has been a Nihility sustain datamined that will open up Acheron immensely, but no promise it's coming any time soon.
Also, Jingliu is a few weeks later, and is a beast in a rare DPS element that tons of enemies are weak to, who gets a boatload of free stats, so is much easier and simpler to build.
Looking forward to 2.1 and staying well clear of HSR main reddit just in case.
Also worth noting that they've already announced they will be resetting the first time top-up bonuses on the crystals in 2.1 so if you were thinking of putting any money in and you've already previously gotten the benefit, I'd recommend holding off until the patch.
I don't know that I'll be able to justify rolling for her, though... not only am I content with Kafka for my AOE lightning needs, but they would be fighting over the same light cone. Maybe I'll just roll a little bit, hope to get Gallagher, and be happy if Acheron shows up. I suppose that alt account I was using with Xueyi is lacking a lightning DPS, so maybe I can get her there. That account lacks Silver Wolf and Guinaifen, though...
I'll just pick up Gallagher from the 4 Star Choice Ticket we'll be getting for anniversary. They've already revealed he's gonna be on it.
Yep, they're great together for sure.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
Yeah, I don't see why not. The only asterisk I can think of is that his skill doesn't necessarily hit all enemies, so his ult would not be boosted against anything he didn't hit.
Right. It's really more that it's an Erudition cone dressed up as Nihility, which is kind of what he's been waiting on since launch.
Eyeballing it, it looks like it's roughly similar to his signature LC, except it also has a free 36 Crit Damage, because lol
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
Yeah, I've been using him mostly as a Sub-DPS for Ratio since I got him off 300. It Is Not Your Turn teams are fun, though.
MAOR DOTS!