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Fasting.

Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
For some personal reasons, I'm going to fast for a week. I've read that I should intake 'herbal tea and diluted fruit juices', but I haven't been able to find exactly which teas/juices would be most important for me to ingest. I was thinking tomato/grapefruit juice and green tea. Any suggestions?

And please, keep the 'fasting is stupid, why would you want to do that?' comments to a minimum, I have my reasons.

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  • japanjapan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Can you define fast? Will you be eating at all, or just liquids?

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Not eating solids at all would be rather extreme and not something i swould condone, but if the OP istruly set on it more power to him.

    I would say drink some orange juice, but if you drink orange juice on an empty belly the acid can you feel a bit ill.

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  • jclastjclast Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I can't offer any advice, but what made you want to fast for a week?

    If any fruit juice will do I find that apple juice is more satisfying on an empty stomach than orange (or any other citrus) juice.

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  • SpackleSpackle Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If you have never fasted before, do NOT fast for a week. This is not smart. Especially if you're doing a straight fast without any solids.

    I suggest a 48 hour period, you might want to look at some special concentrates that you can drink during the day to provide you with your nutrients. Water with fresh squeezed lemon juice also helps to curb your hunger. If your bent on doing a week, consider fruits and veggies.

    Please, be careful. A lot of us are pretty used to eat 3 meals a day or similar, not eating at all can be a shock to your body.

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  • Bob SappBob Sapp Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Well, if your requirement is only liquids, there are plenty of meal replacement shakes out there. Not sure if you'd consider that "cheating" since I don't know what your goal is.

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  • CangoFettCangoFett Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yeah, some people fast from solids
    some from meat
    some from anything that isnt plain ol water.


    If its your first time, do not do it for a week. Thats like having your first experience behind the wheel of a car be at the Indy 500.

    Start off with a 24 or 48 hour period. Personally, I see anything less than 24 hours as not fasting, its just skipping a meal.

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  • pinenut_canarypinenut_canary Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    at korea, i went to a doctor once and he recommended i do this "detox" diet, cuz i have a slow metabolism and a lot of crap build up gets in my intestines. it's basically called like a 7 day detox diet fast thing, and the good part about it was that i didn't fast for 7 days straight, cuz that's pretty dangerous, instead, i would eat 3 meals on the first day, 2 on the second, 1 on the third, none on the 4th, 1 meal on the 5th day, 2 meals on the 6th day, and 3 meals on the 7th day. but they just aren't any meals, it was either rice porridge or a healthy serving of juice that i blended myself, with green tea and other asian teas throughout the day. this was supplemented with this fiber powder stuff that helped me cleanse my innards, along with this green liquid that had vitamins and other stuff so i don't pass out the next day. all in all it helped out a lot, and it's something i do every 2 months or so.

    some people also do it to shrink their stomachs so they don't eat as much, which results in weight loss, and i've considered it, because i am overweight, but i found the best way was to have a healthy diet and exercise. but i did slim down some, like i lost 7 pounds in that week, and then gained like 3 back, so it helps. i'm pretty sure a lot of people have something against, and i'm altogether really not sure if it's a good thing to do, but so far no harm has been done to me, and i feel good afterwards, if not a little tired.

    and anyone is welcome to say anything against what i'm doing or if i'm wrong about something, cuz i'm korean but born in america, and when we visited korea, my parents decided to take me the doctor (and yes it was a doctor, not some health adviser or chiropractor acupuncturist), and i didn't have much idea of what was going on.

    good luck.

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  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Fasting (and detox in general) doesn't actually have any health benefits, quite the opposite. Here's a quick cite on the matter. The only real reason to fast is if you are doing it for spiritual reasons or trying to free India.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Neaden wrote: »
    Fasting (and detox in general) doesn't actually have any health benefits, quite the opposite. Here's a quick cite on the matter. The only real reason to fast is if you are doing it for spiritual reasons or trying to free India.

    And I am doing it for spiritual reasons. So there. :P

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  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Neaden wrote: »
    Fasting (and detox in general) doesn't actually have any health benefits, quite the opposite. Here's a quick cite on the matter. The only real reason to fast is if you are doing it for spiritual reasons or trying to free India.

    And I am doing it for spiritual reasons. So there. :P
    Sorry, that was directed at pinenut who was focusing on health reasons to fast, all of which were incorrect.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    at korea, i went to a doctor once and he recommended i do this "detox" diet, cuz i have a slow metabolism and a lot of crap build up gets in my intestines.

    Wow, neat. Maybe next time he'll let some of your blood to get rid of ill humours.

    I respect people who fast for religious reasons or protest, but I don't understand how you can call it "fasting" if you're drinking a bunch of calories. You might as well be eating.

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  • pinenut_canarypinenut_canary Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    well my eyes are open now.
    as my excuse, i started doing this 6 years ago, and that time it might have been just like a "fad" or whatever, and not much research done into it. but i am going to admit that i'm pretty healthy than i was before, and i'm not giving the diet all the credit.

    and i think your comment on the doc and blood letting is a bit unnecessary Fat. He was a real doctor and my parents didn't take me for some cheap ass medical cure.

    back to the TS, i know people who went on fasts that ranged from 7 days to 40 days, except they would only eat once a day, or eat anytime before noon. and it wasn't some huge meal like steak and potatoes, it's always some form of porridge or something.

    also, i was shown x-rays of myself, and i had this build up in my large intestine of poop, and then after the fast, it was gone, and i pooped pretty well for about 3 months.

    anyways, i don't want to defend myself, i agree that the whole plan is a myth and that it can do more harm than good. thanks.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    well my eyes are open now.
    as my excuse, i started doing this 6 years ago, and that time it might have been just like a "fad" or whatever, and not much research done into it. but i am going to admit that i'm pretty healthy than i was before, and i'm not giving the diet all the credit.

    and i think your comment on the doc and blood letting is a bit unnecessary Fat. He was a real doctor and my parents didn't take me for some cheap ass medical cure.

    back to the TS, i know people who went on fasts that ranged from 7 days to 40 days, except they would only eat once a day, or eat anytime before noon. and it wasn't some huge meal like steak and potatoes, it's always some form of porridge or something.

    also, i was shown x-rays of myself, and i had this build up in my large intestine of poop, and then after the fast, it was gone, and i pooped pretty well for about 3 months.

    anyways, i don't want to defend myself, i agree that the whole plan is a myth and that it can do more harm than good. thanks.
    If it's working it's working.

    The shrinking your stomach part was perfectly reasonable, but everything (or lack thereof) in moderation.

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  • danielof2k6danielof2k6 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    My longest (and first) fast was 3 days, I resumed eating on the 3rd night. It did wonders for my appetite and energy levels,

    the average Americans intestines are packed with terrible things, (mostly beef...) considering most Americans don't miss a meal, they never give the intestines a chance to empty completely. People can claim that fasting has no health benefits: the fact remains they are most likely carrying 2-3 lbs of excess waste :|

    Spiritually, fasting will make meditation and prayer a serious experience. I often found myself sitting with a clear mind without realizing it. Extrenous, stressfull thought becomes less every day. If I had intended to do any serious kind of meditation, I might have had some very incredible experiences. Being my first fast, and feeling this 'zen' nature overcoming me so often I was honestly content to stay inside my everyday conscious mind :lol:

    If you're doing this for prayer or meditation I wish you luck!

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Without going into the spiritual and physical advantages and disadvantages for fasting, to actually answer the OP's question:

    Do not drink grapefruit juice or tomato juice while fasting! You will already have nothing in your stomach, and the acids in those will tear your stomach apart and make you feel very sick. Use something a little more mild like apple juice, as jclast suggested earlier. While they're BS, the base of several detox drinks that you're supposed to fast while taking involves apple juice because it's easier to take on an empty stomach (those detoxers don't really work, but there is a reason for the ingredients involved).

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    the average Americans intestines are packed with terrible things, (mostly French Fries...) !

    Fixed.

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The shrinking your stomach part was perfectly reasonable, but everything (or lack thereof) in moderation.

    This is not meant to be a knock but is there any evidence of the whole "stomach shrinking" thing? I always thought hunger was caused by hormones.

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  • Battle JesusBattle Jesus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    So, an infection in my throat had me fasting all last week (except, probably to a more extreme level than you are - I couldn't ingest more than a couple hundred ml of water a day). Go see a doctor before you do this, they'll check to make sure you're A-okay and whatnot before hand.

    I don't know if the calorie-rich drinks will prevent this, but you could very well end up with some seriously nasty symptoms (vomiting, diarrhea, etc) by the end of the week.

    You also need to be careful once you stop fasting - don't go back to three large meals a day right away, you should work your way up slowly over a few days, else you run the risk of your body rejecting the nutrient-rich foods that you're taking in, which also isn't pleasant.

    Also - are you allowed smoothies? Because if so, just blend a bunch of fruit and berries and some protein powder or something like that into a smoothie and you should be pretty good to go nutrition-wise. At least, for a week.

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  • pinenut_canarypinenut_canary Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The shrinking your stomach part was perfectly reasonable, but everything (or lack thereof) in moderation.

    This is not meant to be a knock but is there any evidence of the whole "stomach shrinking" thing? I always thought hunger was caused by hormones.

    i don't have any hard evidence of that stuff working either, but afterwards i did eat less, and gastric bypass surgery basically makes the stomach smaller, and also allows food to bypass the small intestine, and it yields good results for people who are like morbidly obese or have some other problems. but hormones and other chemical triggers probably do have some signficant effect on hunger, as there are supplements that repress hunger.

    i'm just saying what's going on in my head, i don't have any source for this stuff.

    also, on the fasting thing, the people i mentioned who did 40 days were like pastors and missionaries. are you planning on fasting completely for 7 days with like water and tea? if you are, i really commend you for that. i did a month fast once (religious reasons also), and i only ate before noon, and it was only either fruit or porridge, and i ruled out all forms of media such as tv, music, books (cept the bible), and playing guitar. cutting out tv was easy, because i didn't watch much tv anyways, but this was during the summer, and the order of the phoenix was coming out, and it's pretty standard for albums to come out during the summer so it was a bit of a pain. also, i had to quit playing in the band i was in during that month, which lead to the band breaking up altogether. all that was pretty hard. food wasn't much of a problem after the first week and a half or so.

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  • GoodOmensGoodOmens Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Raiden, if you're going to try this for a week, I'd very much recommend talking to your doctor (if you haven't already) to make sure that you're well enough to do so.

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