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How to End it Swiftly (Girlfriend)

SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
My girlfriend and I have been going out for a year and... whatever. I don't really recall.. I love the girl to death. We've been through so much together, but in the end its just been too much fighting since we've hit the year point. At that time I really started talking to other girls while still with her. It never amounted to much, just talking. The closest it got to "cheating" was another girl and me started talking about her giving me a blowjob and other stuff. I told her about that. She was obviously crushed, but reassured by the fact that I stopped myself before I let anything happened.

I always held her accountable when it came to the fear of "cheating." Lo and behold I was simply being a hypocrite and talking behind her back. I mean he WAS being obvious about flirting with her and I'm sure she would have broken off with him sooner or later, but... I still feel guilty. Recently I told her that I was wanting to talk to other girls when I want to college; just to know what was out there. She's my first kiss, real girlfriend, and all kinds of other firsts. I want to make sure, regardless of how many times I've told her we're perfect for eachother I know I've done her wrong.

Which brings me to the fact that I simply must end it. I've fallen for a girl I met at a leadership camp a year ago and recently came back into contact with. I'm the dick, sleeze, asshole... whatever. I know I've fucked up. I want to put it to her as best as I can, but still letting her know that she's special to me.

Simply I'm asking for ways to build the courage and just let it go and tell her. I also want to do it easily, I don't want it to be messy. I still would love to be her friend, but I just... cannot stay with her. For no particular reason, but at this point I just want/need something different.

Thank you guys in advance.

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  • FellhandFellhand Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    It's something you just do. Think of it like a band aid where if you tear it off fast it's better then pulling it off slow. Just be kind about it and remember that you're the one doing the break up and you're the one breaking her heart so you need to be calm and patient while she yells at you, but then you're free.

    Just be respectful of her feelings while you're doing this.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    First off your an ass and you don't know what love means if what you did to this woman is what you do to people you love then never tell anyone you love them ever again. Second straight up tell the woman "I found someone else, you and I won't go anywhere I am breaking up with you". You will not be a friend to someone you stepped out on. She has every right to hate you and never talk to you again.

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  • FellhandFellhand Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    He's not an ass and you have a very narrow view of reality if you think that. He's obviously just fucking human.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Preacher wrote: »
    First off your an ass and you don't know what love means if what you did to this woman is what you do to people you love then never tell anyone you love them ever again. Second straight up tell the woman "I found someone else, you and I won't go anywhere I am breaking up with you". You will not be a friend to someone you stepped out on. She has every right to hate you and never talk to you again.


    Don't tell me that I never loved her or that I don't know what it is. I fell head over heels for this girl, I moved the fucking universe to make her happy. After a while I just lost romantic interest in it all. I should have it ended it long ago. I understand I messed up, I've stated that. If she doesn't want to talk to me again, I'm not going to force her. I love many people and I do my best to not hurt them. Fact of the matter is I can't do everything right, ok?

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  • SonosSonos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Preacher wrote: »
    First off your an ass and you don't know what love means if what you did to this woman is what you do to people you love then never tell anyone you love them ever again. Second straight up tell the woman "I found someone else, you and I won't go anywhere I am breaking up with you". You will not be a friend to someone you stepped out on. She has every right to hate you and never talk to you again.


    inexperience for the lose.

    Fellhand had the correct answer with the band-aid analogy.

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  • LondonBridgeLondonBridge __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    Prepare for some crying, it's gonna be ugly if she doesn't want to let go.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Prepare for some crying, it's gonna be ugly if she doesn't want to let go.

    Thats what I'm afraid of. I know she's really falling for me at the moment. She's loving everything, and I just... just simply can't.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    How long have you been thinking about this? Have you slept on the idea?

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  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Take 4 shots of vodka, no more, no less, wait 30 minutes, then call. You'll be golden.

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Break up with her to her face. No phone calls. Don't be drunk while you're doing it. That's incredibly disrespectful.

    There are no magic words that make it easier. Keep it short. Don't listen to any pleading or crying. Don't comfort her.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Preacher wrote: »
    First off your an ass and you don't know what love means if what you did to this woman is what you do to people you love then never tell anyone you love them ever again. Second straight up tell the woman "I found someone else, you and I won't go anywhere I am breaking up with you". You will not be a friend to someone you stepped out on. She has every right to hate you and never talk to you again.
    You are not an ass for breaking up with your first girlfriend because the relationship isn't working anymore. That's a retarded argument. If it weren't, we just wouldn't bother with the whole "dating" thing, and go straight to marriage, right off the bat, which would be fucking stupid.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I decided yesterday. I took her out to lunch since I just got back from camp. The whole time we were eating I realized I was talking to Alyssa, the girl from camp. I got home and just at. She called me, noticed I was sleepy and wanted to come wake me up. I asked her to call back. She called a few times, but I couldn't bring myself to answer.

    I've been contemplating this for a good while, but now do I feel like I really need to do something. Honestly, though I don't know what the fuck I want. The girl I am talking to is two hours away, and its not even a guaranteed thing. My current girlfriend, or soon to be ex, is a great person. We click on a lot of cylinders, but when it comes down to it we contrast too much for my tastes. The things I'm really passionate about (video games, sports, the leadership camp) she knows nothing about. She's gone to a couple of OU games with me, played a few video games but its just not there. It just... I don't know. I just don't know.

    To make things more complicated, I don't know if I want to do this before we go to Beta Convention in about a week just because I want everything to go smoothly there. We'll be together for four days, not alone, so I'm sure at some point it might get awkward. Her mom will be there too, so I don't want anything to happen.

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  • Vrtra TheoryVrtra Theory Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If you've decided this is what you have to do, do it as soon as possible. Sit her down in person, let her know it's over, you enjoyed your time together, etc. Expect a lot of sorrow, potentially outrage, and a generally bad experience.

    Don't say "I hope we can be friends" - you can't expect that and it's basically a slap in the face anyway.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    There's nothing wrong with talking. The jerky thing with sleeping around or other sexual activities is the level of intimacy and the fact that you could expose your significant other to disease or other problems without them having any idea.

    But yeah, just end it. Say "hey, I really feel like a jerk but I think we need to call it quits. we've been having a lot of fights and I'm going off to college and I really want both of us to have a clean slate."

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  • april__29april__29 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    sit her down and calmly as her "remember that boyfriend you used to have" hopefully she'll say who and then you go "me" and walk out

    in all seriousness i agree with below

    If you've decided this is what you have to do, do it as soon as possible. Sit her down in person, let her know it's over, you enjoyed your time together, etc. Expect a lot of sorrow, potentially outrage, and a generally bad experience.

    Don't say "I hope we can be friends" - you can't expect that and it's basically a slap in the face anyway.

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  • BruanBruan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I kinda went through something like this.

    I simply told her I was digging somebody else; that I didn't see a future with her. It sucks to do it, but that's the best way. The band-aid analogy is perfect.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Take 4 shots of vodka, no more, no less, wait 30 minutes, then call. You'll be golden.

    Fuck that, don't ever fucking break up on the phone. The only time phonecall breakups are permissable is when your girlfriend calls you from Australia to tell you about the gangbang she just had.

    Or possibly if you've just been abducted by aliens but for some reason your cellphone still works, you can call your significant other to give them the heads up that you're now ET's bitch. But that's it.

    As for the actual (in person) breakup that you enjoyed your time together, will never forget, etc, and that you just don't see a future. Personally I'm on the fence about bringing up the other woman.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    No, no. I'm more chivalrous than to get drunk and to call her. I don't drink anyhow, and I wouldn't do her the injustice of it being on the phone. Thank you everyone, so far.

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  • supertallsupertall Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't do it at your place. Do it at her place if you can, somewhere public if you can't. If it's at her place you can just leave once you're done, and she's not a mess out in public, another potential embarrassment.

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't bring up the other woman. She just helped you to realize the inevitable - you're not leaving your girlfriend for her, you're leaving your girlfriend for you. It'll only bring up unnecessary guilt and stress.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't bring up the other woman. She just helped you to realize the inevitable - you're not leaving your girlfriend for her, you're leaving your girlfriend for you. It'll only bring up unnecessary guilt and stress.

    Ya, but thats why I feel compelled to tell her. I told her I'd be open and honest with her and I obviously haven't been. I know I'm trying to do this easy, but my intentions were to let her know what exactly was going on. If its really best to not say anything, then I won't.

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  • SonosSonos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't bring up the other woman. She just helped you to realize the inevitable - you're not leaving your girlfriend for her, you're leaving your girlfriend for you. It'll only bring up unnecessary guilt and stress.


    she is going to get it out of him.

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SoonerMan wrote: »
    Don't bring up the other woman. She just helped you to realize the inevitable - you're not leaving your girlfriend for her, you're leaving your girlfriend for you. It'll only bring up unnecessary guilt and stress.

    Ya, but thats why I feel compelled to tell her. I told her I'd be open and honest with her and I obviously haven't been. I know I'm trying to do this easy, but my intentions were to let her know what exactly was going on. If its really best to not say anything, then I won't.

    I may be wrong, but the way I see it is that you may not even get together with this other girl, and the fact that you're having urges to start new relationships with other women isn't even reliant on this girl - you want a clean slate and your current girlfriend just isn't compatible with you anymore. There's nothing wrong with saying "I just don't see a future, I want to see other people" and not getting into the specifics.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Would it be too much to say, "If it is to be, it will be. But for right now it isn't." I know it sounds melodramatic and everything, but once she gets to college NEXT year (she'll be a senior this year, I'm obviously and incoming freshman) it may or may not be time to try things out again.

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  • Dread Pirate ArbuthnotDread Pirate Arbuthnot OMG WRIGGLY T O X O P L A S M O S I SRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SoonerMan wrote: »
    Would it be too much to say, "If it is to be, it will be. But for right now it isn't." I know it sounds melodramatic and everything, but once she gets to college NEXT year (she'll be a senior this year, I'm obviously and incoming freshman) it may or may not be time to try things out again.

    I don't know, man, that seems kind of like you're giving her false hope if you don't want to get back together, and it seems unfair to put her on a backburner while you chase other girls. If you tell her you want a break to sort your feelings out and decide what you want to do with her, I can see that working out a lot better than "I want to date other girls but I think I might want to date you in the future too"

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  • SonosSonos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SoonerMan wrote: »
    Would it be too much to say, "If it is to be, it will be. But for right now it isn't." I know it sounds melodramatic and everything, but once she gets to college NEXT year (she'll be a senior this year, I'm obviously and incoming freshman) it may or may not be time to try things out again.


    that sounds like you are stringing her along. I'd advise against this if you want to remain friends.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I honestly would like to give it another shot later. Right now its just not working. I don't know what I want. I've already told her that I want to talk to girls in college. At this point, I just don't know which path to take. End it completely or tell her this is it for the moment?

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  • Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Don't prepare lines. There is no "how-to" guide for this sort of thing.

    Don't make it like the office where you have a little sit down chat and you're firing her. Don't pretend like everything is okay. Don't ask if you can be friends, if she wants to see you still chances are she will call the next day and you two will talk about it (be careful not to get sucked back in here). Do it in person, with the utmost honesty and sincerety. Tell her that you don't want to be with her anymore. If she asks you why then tell her; avoid using specific names if she knows the other girl.

    Be assertive but not aggressive, be kind but not supplicating. It's okay if she wants to cry or wants to be held, just, when she goes in for the kiss, which she may, continue to be assertive.

    This will be tough, but you will both feel better if you are honest about the situation and your feelings and compassionate towards hers.

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  • SonosSonos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SoonerMan wrote: »
    I honestly would like to give it another shot later. Right now its just not working. I don't know what I want. I've already told her that I want to talk to girls in college. At this point, I just don't know which path to take. End it completely or tell her this is it for the moment?

    end it completely unless you are just trying to mess with her. in my humble opinion you don't care at all for her well being if you want her to stick around waiting in the background until you have found yourself or whatever. she will hate you for it later and rightfully so.

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  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    SoonerMan wrote: »
    I honestly would like to give it another shot later. Right now its just not working. I don't know what I want. I've already told her that I want to talk to girls in college. At this point, I just don't know which path to take. End it completely or tell her this is it for the moment?

    Everyone's giving you good advice as to how to break it off -- quickly, respectfully, in person. I have to say, however, that hoping that you'll be able to break up with her and then get back together with her later is unrealistic. Even if it's realistic, it's kind of cruel to keep her hoping.

    Either break up with her and know that it's forever, or don't break up with her and try to make it work. Trying to have it both ways is just going to end up with one (or both) of you frustrated, lonely, and bitter.

    Seriously. Take it from one who knows too well. :(

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Well, the only thing I can say is, in my experience, faster, uncaring break ups actually got me over it faster. I know, its weird, but let me explain.

    My last girlfriend called me on valentines day, and left me a message. She basically said "I know, its valentines day, its fucked up, but I just don't like you enough".

    It was like I was hit by a bus, but then the next day, I felt oddly good about things, and wanted to get back out there already.

    Not saying this is exactly what you may want to do, but it was my experience.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    No the bus approach is the way to do it. If you seriously don't want to see the person as a boyfriend/girlfriend, stringing it along is just painful for both people involved. The "let's be friends," or "i need space, but I still love you and want to be with you, just not in person or on the phone" approach is like a knife wound where you leave the blade in. You know it hurts and something should be done, but you don't pull the knife out and get to the healing process -- it just stays in there and hurts and sometimes if you don't move you don't really feel it, but you still know something's not right.

    Maybe that's a bad analogy, but the OP shouldn't fool himself that maybe it'll work in the future. Maybe it will -- maybe they'll get back together after college and realize that the people they've become work together fantastically. But that's not something you tell someone when you break up with them, because it simply lets them sit on the 1st stage of coping with loss -- denial. The bus approach gets you through all of the stages pretty quickly, because you know that it's over.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yeah, I once broke up with a girl using the whole 'it's just not working out right now' thing back when I was young(er) and stupid(er), and she's STILL calling me.

    It's just a bad idea to do anything other than end it completely if it's going to end.

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  • AbsoluteZeroAbsoluteZero The new film by Quentin Koopantino Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I know you've decided to break it off with her and everything already but I'd just like to throw this out there... You don't have to have everything in common with someone in order to have a great, fulfilling relationship with them. In fact the differences in interests between yourself and a significant other can often be the part of your relationship that keeps you interested for years. All you really need is some common ground, which I'm pretty sure you have with this girl, love, and the desire from both parties to work out any differences you may have that lead you to fight or whatever.

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  • SudsSuds Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If you want to end it end it. If you want to see what will happen in the future then it sounds like you have some work to do in the relationship.

    You have to decide what it is you really want. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
    You don't have to have everything in common with someone in order to have a great, fulfilling relationship with them. In fact the differences in interests between yourself and a significant other can often be the part of your relationship that keeps you interested for years. All you really need is some common ground, which I'm pretty sure you have with this girl, love, and the desire from both parties to work out any differences you may have that lead you to fight or whatever.

    I'd like to second this opinion. Honestly, if my wife had everything in common with me it would drive me insane. Eventually you just want your own alone time, and it's nice to have your own personal interests to fall back on in those situations. When I want some companionship then we have that common ground.

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  • misbehavinmisbehavin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I know you've decided to break it off with her and everything already but I'd just like to throw this out there... You don't have to have everything in common with someone in order to have a great, fulfilling relationship with them. In fact the differences in interests between yourself and a significant other can often be the part of your relationship that keeps you interested for years. All you really need is some common ground, which I'm pretty sure you have with this girl, love, and the desire from both parties to work out any differences you may have that lead you to fight or whatever.

    Third'd.

    If you find someone that is exactly like you, you'll find out just how much you hate yourself in a very short period of time.

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  • witch_iewitch_ie Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think you have to keep in mind that if you break up with her - and I'm not entirely convinced you want to do this, you have to understand that she could move on and see other people too. It seems like you don't want to miss out on new experiences in college. You keep mentioning "talking" to other girls, but I don't think this is really what you mean since you think it means that you're being unfaithful or need to break up with your current girlfriend in order to do it.

    You can't just put her on a shelf and say, I'm gonna see what else is out there, but keep you here for later. If you're sure you want to be with her later, or even if you're not, but thing you might want to be, I would recommend NOT breaking up with her. You have to remember that if you break her heart, if you tell her you want to see/"talk" to other people, nothing will go back to the way it was before. That might be a good thing.

    You could always try some space away from each other...don't call it a break, just give each other room to grow as people. You can always break up with her later if that doesn't help you get your head straight. Also, even though this has not been my personal experience, I hear that you can be friends with the opposite sex without there being anything more than friendship there. From the way you tell it, you feel like you can't be.

    If you do end it, I suggest you be kind, be honest, and be patient. You may think of it as a bandaid being ripped off, but that's not how it's going to seem from her perspective. So be prepared for tears, for questions, recriminations and the like. I'm not saying this will all happen as it will depend on how she takes your break up, but they are things to be prepared for. Also, make sure this is something you really want first - you'll need that resolve to follow through.

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  • orochiReikoorochiReiko Registered User new member
    edited June 2007
    SoonerMan wrote: »
    To make things more complicated, I don't know if I want to do this before we go to Beta Convention in about a week just because I want everything to go smoothly there. We'll be together for four days, not alone, so I'm sure at some point it might get awkward. Her mom will be there too, so I don't want anything to happen.

    If you do break up with her, kiss Beta Convention good-bye. Neither she nor her mom (ESPECIALLY her mom) will want to be stuck around you after breaking her heart.

    What is the driving force behind dating? To find someone to potentially spend the rest of your life with. (If that's not your answer, then that's not dating ;-)) So if you've got the idea that she is someone you would want to be with for a long time, then breaking up, running the entire dating race, then trying to win her back seems like a round-about way to get where you already are. And if she might be that someone, getting together at a later date doesn't mean those problems you're having now will go away. It sounds like your relationship has evolved from the honeymoon stage to the real part of the relationship, with real problems. A solid, trusting relationship takes understanding, self-awareness, empathy, compromise, an open mind, and a hell of a lot of time and effort.

    What about these other girls excites you in ways that your girlfriend doesn't? More importantly, what has been lost in your current relationship that originally brought you two together in the first place? I agree with witch_ie's viewpoint: once you're available, she's available too. From the standpoint of the dumped who found better, find out what you truly want before you do something you regret.

    "Nothing worth having comes easy."

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  • LachesisLachesis Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I honestly would like to give it another shot later. Right now its just not working. I don't know what I want. I've already told her that I want to talk to girls in college. At this point, I just don't know which path to take. End it completely or tell her this is it for the moment?

    You say she is still in love with you; therefore, you need to break it off completely. She will be upset. She will cry. And for a while, she will still hope that you two will get back together. If YOU are going to date around, then you need to give her the clean break she needs to be able to date around herself.

    My ex and I broke up with the "This is a break, we might get back together" clause. He initated the breakup. I, however, realized that it was a chance for me to have a clean break and date around -- I found a great guy a few months later. My ex was heartbroken. He figured we would get back together after I had "straightened my life out". I straightened my life out... and cut him out of it. It took him months to realize that we would never get back together, and even now, he cannot talk to me or be around me because of his old feelings. We broke up 1.5 years ago.

    So please, for the benefit to both of you, make it a clean break. No if, ands, or buts. If she says "Will we ever get back together?", do not say "Later, I just want to see what else is out there." Neither of you should put your lives on hold. Make it so you can BOTH move on with your lives. And maybe, if you decide you miss her and want to try again, give her a call. Just don't let her have lingering hope that the relationship will be there later, when it most likely won't.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Do it at her place, do not do it at your place as it is rude to kick someone out. Do not do it in a public place because you should respect the lady too much to let her (or you cause a scene). At her place you can leave when you want and control the situation better.

    It's not working out, I want to see other people is all you need.

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