The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
This is a normal conversation for someone under the steady influence of hard drugs. I count at least three red flags for this one. Maybe he should y'know, not do them? Or if none, maybe some prescribed ones? Paranoia, sexual compulsion, sexually centered false imagery, extreme and inappropriate outbursts, poor hygiene, violent mood swings - all very very bad signs.
Is this the young kid under your aunt's guardianship? And you were a huge guy with a black belt in a martial art?
If this is a trend, he is becoming more and more irrational, to the point that it becomes unhealthy. Your aunt should probably contact school and hear if he pulls the same bullshit there. If so: get a shrink to look at him?
I dunno where you came up with the aunt/black belt stuff, but not at all. I think it's specifically me he targets. He's 15, I'm almost 18, his gf just turned 16.
As far as I know the only drug he does is weed. And I'd rather not get my parents involved in this (which means I'm gonna have to think up some excuse for the bruise on my temple thats coming in)
This is someone different from the kid under his aunt's guardianship, people.
The thread Wezoin is talking about was from a long-ass time ago. The auto-prune got it, I think.
Oh geez.
In that case: disregard my previous advice.
Talk to your brother's legal guardian about these accusations he's been screaming through the house and make it clear that he's been lying. (pre-emptive ass-saving) It may also pay off for the parents to talk to people at his school.
I don't think that trying to find actual proof of rape will "cure him".
Trying to fix the problem by yourself is a big task, especially if he's on drugs all the time. You prolly have your life and your own issues to deal with.
You mentioned that your parents are complete morons when it comes to accusations.
Looks to me like you have 2 choices, tell you parents about the pot issue and hope for the best, or seek profesional help. Call a hotline or something. You might need more than words to fix this one, an intervention or some similar shit.
Ah - 15. Virtually the same thing, and for the same reasons - sudden changes in the hardwiring of the brain. He's retarded for doing drugs during this period in his life, fucks with the sense of perceived normalcy for a very long time, but whatever.
Talking to the folks might help, depends on the guardianship principles already in play. The type of accusation is troubling, in the real world, thats a very serious thing to accuse someone of. To do it lightly or even out of anger is pretty unacceptable. He should probably be 'informed' that this is the case, in whatever manner you feel would be effective in bringing the message home.
Personally, I was a stubborn ahole when I was that age, and my older brother would occasionally 'tell' me some of the more serious things that I may have otherwise been unwilling to listen too. Negotiation is a fine thing, but it assumes a certain rationality which isn't always present in the adolescent mind. Some terms are not negotiable, and enforcement requires that the accuracy of the pecking order be immediately reaffirmed.
edit: Ah, I see that while typing, you've hit on the same idea yourself. Good show.
That sounds surprisingly civilized. You may want to drop the 'prove it' angle, to something softer, like 'without a really good reason.' giving option to him to bring those resons forward. Maybe Jade said something to him, maybe theres someting else going on to bring him to that conclusion.
Putting it into a 'put up or shut up' context tends to breed distrust, because a lack of evidence is not proof that something did not occur. That can be twisted pretty easily into 'prove you didn't' which makes you guilty through the same method. Reasons though, are substantially different, letting you get down to the root of why he said it. Maybe he just found a really good shock accusation to stop you in your tracks, maybe he was deliberately being an ass after being corrected or talked down too. Could be lots of things; I'd encourage you to find them out so you can have a better understanding of your situation.
I think he's really dillusional... apparently he thinks I confessed to doing stuff with the last person he accused me of, but I never did. Whatever. He seems to have calmed down to the level of just sitting around expecting an appology or something. I'm just gonna leave him waiting for it. This is lockable if you'd like, although if anyone has anything to say to me about it just send me a pm.
unless the girl is as emotionally unstable as her bf appears to be, i'd hope that she might be able to snap some sense into him. i mean, I'm not a girl, but i sure wouldnt like to hear that my bf is telling people I was raped.
Blake TDo you have enemies then?Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered Userregular
edited June 2007
He seems to have a couple of screws loose and it seems to me to be a good time to involve the 'rents.
Tell them flat out that you think your brother is having some problems with his weed addiction, trying to punch you without any base proof and other things. Do you really think they are going to believe a stoner (even if it's their son) over you, especially if you come to them with this information?
I doubt they'd believe him OVER me, but would get mad at both of us. My parents honestly are the most assuming people on the planet. They probably wouldn't believe the weed thing (they dont understand that not all drugs are LSD, and that just because you're a druggy doesn't mean you're homeless) Although I suppose I could insist they get him tested as my way of adding veritability to my claims of innocense.
I doubt they'd believe him OVER me, but would get mad at both of us. My parents honestly are the most assuming people on the planet. They probably wouldn't believe the weed thing (they dont understand that not all drugs are LSD, and that just because you're a druggy doesn't mean you're homeless) Although I suppose I could insist they get him tested as my way of adding veritability to my claims of innocense.
Call his school and ask what problems he's causing there, also ask them to contact your parents. If they don't listen to you, they might listen to the school.
Aldo on
0
DynagripBreak me a million heartsHoustonRegistered User, ClubPAregular
edited June 2007
So like, what are the odds that Jade told him that you'd raped her? There doesn't seem to be much mention of that in this thread...
Ok, apparently from what he's said she did say that I did... and gave him some scenario that doesn't actually ammount to rape at all... but, I dont even know what it'd be considered...
Apparently she told him that I slapped her on the ass, then lifted her onto my lap and tried to kiss her and she said "no"... It even SOUNDS like a really made up piece of crap, but even if it was true wouldn't ammount to rape, so I dunno.
Also, about the school, he isn't causing trouble there (him and her go to different schools, so most people he goes to school with dont know her)
Alright, I've dropped her a line on facebook, since I dont know her number or anything else. My brother seems to have completely dropped this though, it's really weird. Like, is it possible that this is just his way of getting out of things?
I ask him to clean up after himself, he spews out some outrageous bullshit to try and piss me off so I'll forget about it, then carries it on just so long enough that I wont remember what I asked him to do?
If he's as scatterbrained as it sounds, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't actually mean to say it, but after it came out of his mouth he felt like he had to follow through at the time, and afterwards try to pretend it never happened. Just saving face, ineptly.
Scooter on
0
DynagripBreak me a million heartsHoustonRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Alright, I've dropped her a line on facebook, since I dont know her number or anything else. My brother seems to have completely dropped this though, it's really weird. Like, is it possible that this is just his way of getting out of things?
I ask him to clean up after himself, he spews out some outrageous bullshit to try and piss me off so I'll forget about it, then carries it on just so long enough that I wont remember what I asked him to do?
I think contacting her period is a bad idea. Either drop this completely or get in a discussion with your brother and try to work through why Jade would want to be a lying hose beast. Perhaps she's insecure, something like that. But anyway, talking to her on the side will cause trouble, I think.
I think talking with her is the right thing to do. She may be just insane, I dated this one girl who would say the most outrageous things to get attention from me. Like her dad hit her and she fell through a table completely unbelievable bullshit like that, seems kinda related to me. She probably is incredibly insecure and maybe just talking to her (save the conversations anyway possible!) just in case she tells your brother you are coming onto her.
Posts
How old is he exactly? Maturity about certain things?
If this is a trend, he is becoming more and more irrational, to the point that it becomes unhealthy. Your aunt should probably contact school and hear if he pulls the same bullshit there. If so: get a shrink to look at him?
As far as I know the only drug he does is weed. And I'd rather not get my parents involved in this (which means I'm gonna have to think up some excuse for the bruise on my temple thats coming in)
The thread Wezoin is talking about was from a long-ass time ago. The auto-prune got it, I think.
In that case: disregard my previous advice.
Talk to your brother's legal guardian about these accusations he's been screaming through the house and make it clear that he's been lying. (pre-emptive ass-saving) It may also pay off for the parents to talk to people at his school.
You have bigger problems. Well, he does.
I don't think that trying to find actual proof of rape will "cure him".
Trying to fix the problem by yourself is a big task, especially if he's on drugs all the time. You prolly have your life and your own issues to deal with.
You mentioned that your parents are complete morons when it comes to accusations.
Looks to me like you have 2 choices, tell you parents about the pot issue and hope for the best, or seek profesional help. Call a hotline or something. You might need more than words to fix this one, an intervention or some similar shit.
pleasepaypreacher.net
Talking to the folks might help, depends on the guardianship principles already in play. The type of accusation is troubling, in the real world, thats a very serious thing to accuse someone of. To do it lightly or even out of anger is pretty unacceptable. He should probably be 'informed' that this is the case, in whatever manner you feel would be effective in bringing the message home.
Personally, I was a stubborn ahole when I was that age, and my older brother would occasionally 'tell' me some of the more serious things that I may have otherwise been unwilling to listen too. Negotiation is a fine thing, but it assumes a certain rationality which isn't always present in the adolescent mind. Some terms are not negotiable, and enforcement requires that the accuracy of the pecking order be immediately reaffirmed.
edit: Ah, I see that while typing, you've hit on the same idea yourself. Good show.
Putting it into a 'put up or shut up' context tends to breed distrust, because a lack of evidence is not proof that something did not occur. That can be twisted pretty easily into 'prove you didn't' which makes you guilty through the same method. Reasons though, are substantially different, letting you get down to the root of why he said it. Maybe he just found a really good shock accusation to stop you in your tracks, maybe he was deliberately being an ass after being corrected or talked down too. Could be lots of things; I'd encourage you to find them out so you can have a better understanding of your situation.
3DS Friend Code: 2165-6448-8348 www.Twitch.TV/cooljammer00
Battle.Net: JohnDarc#1203 Origin/UPlay: CoolJammer00
I know you said it'd be difficult for you personally, but it would DEFINITELY call them both on the subject.
If it helps, write down all your talking points before the event, just so you don't get bewildered by emotions and lose track.
3DS Friend Code: 2165-6448-8348 www.Twitch.TV/cooljammer00
Battle.Net: JohnDarc#1203 Origin/UPlay: CoolJammer00
Tell them flat out that you think your brother is having some problems with his weed addiction, trying to punch you without any base proof and other things. Do you really think they are going to believe a stoner (even if it's their son) over you, especially if you come to them with this information?
Satans..... hints.....
Apparently she told him that I slapped her on the ass, then lifted her onto my lap and tried to kiss her and she said "no"... It even SOUNDS like a really made up piece of crap, but even if it was true wouldn't ammount to rape, so I dunno.
Also, about the school, he isn't causing trouble there (him and her go to different schools, so most people he goes to school with dont know her)
I ask him to clean up after himself, he spews out some outrageous bullshit to try and piss me off so I'll forget about it, then carries it on just so long enough that I wont remember what I asked him to do?