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my house is so goddamn cold

The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
its winter. I'm freezing. One wall of by bedroom is 100% unglazed 70's era glass. Same goes for the living room. Its like living in a meat locker. I need efficient, cheapass ways to stop the heat shooting straight out the windows. Is there some kind of better curtaining I should get? Eventually I'll buy a space heater for my room, but the power bill is bad enough as it is, and I'd like to not have to use it too much. The non-glass walls are nice and thick at least, so I don't have to worry about them.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Have you already winter-sealed around the edges of your windows? If not, check out the first 3 paragraphs of this. I did this in my old place (with terrible windows) and it made a difference.

    http://money.howstuffworks.com/how-to-make-your-home-energy-efficient3.htm

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Marty81 wrote: »
    Have you already winter-sealed around the edges of your windows? If not, check out the first 3 paragraphs of this. I did this in my old place (with terrible windows) and it made a difference.

    http://money.howstuffworks.com/how-to-make-your-home-energy-efficient3.htm

    This is truth, and honestly I didn't notice a huge difference in my power bill with two space heaters running. On top of space heaters you might want to look into an electric blanket as well (although it's so hard to get out of your warm bed into your cold ass house).

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  • BelketreBelketre Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You live in Brisbane. You have no business complaining about the cold. I was up there last month and people thought it was cold at 26 degrees. It was about -4 here thismorning. heh.

    Anyway, those rubber backed curtains seem to help a bit with large windows. I have a couple of big windows, and a large sliding door to the back yard which all had shitty curtains covering them when I bought my place. Putting the thick, rubber backed ones on made a fair bit of a difference.

    As for space heating, those radiator style things are pretty damn cheap to run. They take a while to warm up though.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    its winter. I'm freezing. One wall of by bedroom is 100% unglazed 70's era glass. Same goes for the living room. Its like living in a meat locker. I need efficient, cheapass ways to stop the heat shooting straight out the windows. Is there some kind of better curtaining I should get? Eventually I'll buy a space heater for my room, but the power bill is bad enough as it is, and I'd like to not have to use it too much. The non-glass walls are nice and thick at least, so I don't have to worry about them.


    You can buy plastic sheeting which attaches to your window frames with double sided tape to attempt some extra insulation. I would imagine your local hardware/Do it yourself store can help you out.

    Also, wear some slippers.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    17c in Brisbane today. That is shorts and tshirt weather here when it is sunny. Do you take a multivitamin? maybe you have a B complex defficiency? Add plastic to the windows as stated above, it will help with the wind escaping through the cracks in the wall around the sill. Also, get some heavy curtains, two layers and keep them closed at night. Wearing an extra layer and slippers in the house works well too. Wearing a hat will have a dramatic effect as well. I will usually grab a hat before a sweater to keep warm inside.

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  • bbmartinibbmartini Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    buy something like this:
    http://www.amazon.com/3M-Company-2141-Indoor-Insulation/dp/B00002NCJI

    should be available at any hardware and larger retailers

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    stigweard wrote: »
    17c in Brisbane today. That is shorts and tshirt weather here when it is sunny. Do you take a multivitamin? maybe you have a B complex defficiency? Add plastic to the windows as stated above, it will help with the wind escaping through the cracks in the wall around the sill. Also, get some heavy curtains, two layers and keep them closed at night. Wearing an extra layer and slippers in the house works well too. Wearing a hat will have a dramatic effect as well. I will usually grab a hat before a sweater to keep warm inside.

    I'm used to 27C and more, is the problem. Temperature adaptations are relative, too. Most of you guys living in Fargo-esque places would be on the verge of suicide in summer here ;)

    The sealing stuff looks pretty good, but I'm a renter so I don't know whether I'm allowed to do stuff like that. Worth checking out, though, so thanks. Maybe the curtains would be best. The ones I have are very old...

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The temperature stuff is very true. I was in Barcelona once in January, and me and my fellow Canadians were wearing short sleeves and shorts quite a bit, while the locals were wandering around in sweaters and scarves.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I guess it depends what you are used to and where you live. Our record high is ~39c and our record low is ~-47c. We tend to average a low around -15 - -20c in the winter before windchill and 24 - 28 before the humidex in the summer. We have some of the strangest weather in North America.

    Do you normally acclamate to the winter temperatures after a few weeks or are you cold all winter? Iwouldn't rule out diet if this is the first winter that is bothering you. Warm stews, spicy foods, and hot drinks can all go along way to making you feel warmer too.

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    In San Francisco, Canadians would go swimming. That water is fucking cold. Hell, the water in LA is fucking cold.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    In San Francisco, Canadians would go swimming. That water is fucking cold. Hell, the water in LA is fucking cold.
    I could hop in the river, but I'd probably dissolve.

    That is terrible weather, stig. Inland? Word to the warm food though.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    stigweard wrote: »
    17c in Brisbane today. That is shorts and tshirt weather here when it is sunny. Do you take a multivitamin? maybe you have a B complex defficiency? Add plastic to the windows as stated above, it will help with the wind escaping through the cracks in the wall around the sill. Also, get some heavy curtains, two layers and keep them closed at night. Wearing an extra layer and slippers in the house works well too. Wearing a hat will have a dramatic effect as well. I will usually grab a hat before a sweater to keep warm inside.
    I'm used to 27C and more, is the problem. Temperature adaptations are relative, too. Most of you guys living in Fargo-esque places would be on the verge of suicide in summer here ;)

    The sealing stuff looks pretty good, but I'm a renter so I don't know whether I'm allowed to do stuff like that. Worth checking out, though, so thanks. Maybe the curtains would be best. The ones I have are very old...
    Ask your landlord about sealing it. It actually adds value to the place if it's not losing as much heat. See if you can get them to pay for the stuff to do it if you agree to provide the labor.

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Have you considered... acclimating?

    If you put too much effort in to getting warm, you're going to be used to higher body temperatures and, when you're seperated from that warmth, -you will freeze your ass off-.

    Try to keep yourself just on the barely chilly side, and you may not need as much heat to stay comfortable.

    Also may want to try just doing a few push ups or jumping jacks to get your body heat up.

    I use these methods to survive in an area where it can snow during Winter and reach almost 45C in Summer.

    I don't even use my car's A/C that often during summer after the sun roof and large windows let all that direct light onto my black leather seating. So this stuff does work.

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  • telcustelcus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Oh yes, it is freaking cold here at Sydney at the moment. My girlfriend brought one her electric heaters (for some reason her parents have about 5 o_O) over because my room is an icebox in winter.

    It kinda works if I sit directly in front of it, but my bed turns to ice by about 4am in the morning as keeping an electric heater on when your sleeping seems kind of like a waste of electricity and a potential fire hazard.

    Is there such a thing as a special kind of doonah or blanket that retains a ton of heat? Not like space blankets or something but something I can put on my bed and actually use.

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    you usually want either a very dense blanket or a very fluffy and big comforter. or layer both.

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  • SporkAndrewSporkAndrew Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    When I rented my 1900s era flat back at uni the old sash window used to make the curtains billow even when fully shut. I attached a heat-shrink see-through plastic insulation sheet to the window frame with a hairdryer and that turned the room from colder than outside to a nice toasty place with my halogen heater..

    When the lease was up and I moved out I just ripped the insulation off, sanded down and re-painted the window frame. It helped that my between uni years job was as a painter and decorator..

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I was going to second (third?) the window thing, but 17C is about 63F, which is a cool spring/fall day. I'd be afraid to know what kind of meat locker Cat frequents...

    Anyway, it's more important to know what the indoor temperature currently is, and what temperature Cat would prefer. Blankets are only convenient for lying around, really, and they do a poor job of heating your extremities. I think window treatment mixed with space heaters, if the heat that services the apartment is unreliable or useless, is the best plan of action for heating a general space, although it's best to set them up in a room, close the door, and stay bundled up or keep a jacket around if you're going to be moving through the rest of the house.

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  • bbmartinibbmartini Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    stigweard wrote: »
    17c in Brisbane today. That is shorts and tshirt weather here when it is sunny. Do you take a multivitamin? maybe you have a B complex defficiency? Add plastic to the windows as stated above, it will help with the wind escaping through the cracks in the wall around the sill. Also, get some heavy curtains, two layers and keep them closed at night. Wearing an extra layer and slippers in the house works well too. Wearing a hat will have a dramatic effect as well. I will usually grab a hat before a sweater to keep warm inside.

    I'm used to 27C and more, is the problem. Temperature adaptations are relative, too. Most of you guys living in Fargo-esque places would be on the verge of suicide in summer here ;)

    The sealing stuff looks pretty good, but I'm a renter so I don't know whether I'm allowed to do stuff like that. Worth checking out, though, so thanks. Maybe the curtains would be best. The ones I have are very old...

    I used it in my apartment and it doesn't leave any residue. Its a 2 sided roll of tape and thick plastic pretty much.

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  • drinkinstoutdrinkinstout Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    the taped-on, heat-shrunk plastic really helps - I had to use a mess of it when we had a couple solid weeks of sub-zero temps and I live in the basement. It's cheaper than buying new heavy drapes too! But if yours are old and dingy, I'd buy new drapes and the plastic :)

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Oh: Another freebie trick that may or may not be obvious: When you're in a blanket or decently-insulated top, -breath into it-.

    Trapping your warm breath between the cloth and your body will do a lot to keep you warm.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    EggyToast wrote: »
    I was going to second (third?) the window thing, but 17C is about 63F, which is a cool spring/fall day. I'd be afraid to know what kind of meat locker Cat frequents...

    The daytime isn't the problem. The apparent temperature falls to around 6C or so for most of the afternoon and night, and early morning. But yeah, you're all really big and tough and pointing that out first is essential to answering my questions. jesus christ.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    bbmartini wrote: »
    I used it in my apartment and it doesn't leave any residue. Its a 2 sided roll of tape and thick plastic pretty much.

    Do you know if it comes in sheets big enough to cover sliding doors? Because that's basically what the bedroom and living room walls are; a sliding door and a big floor-to-ceiling panel next to it. They're high ceilings, too.

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  • bbmartinibbmartini Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    bbmartini wrote: »
    I used it in my apartment and it doesn't leave any residue. Its a 2 sided roll of tape and thick plastic pretty much.

    Do you know if it comes in sheets big enough to cover sliding doors? Because that's basically what the bedroom and living room walls are; a sliding door and a big floor-to-ceiling panel next to it. They're high ceilings, too.

    http://www.amazon.com/Patio-Door-Insulation-Kit-2144W/dp/B0000CBJ80/ref=pd_bxgy_hi_text_b/104-0491947-5837511

    its 84" x 112", and the window kit is 62" x 252. so about 2.1m x 2.8m and 1.6m x 6.4m for you metric folk. if they don't fit you could always just overlay them, i don't see any problem in that.

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