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Ok, i'm technologically challenged and i need some help. What kind of computer should i get? I game alot like battlefield 2 and whatnots online, but i have a limit of about $1100. I know nothing about computers besides what they do to make me happy :P. Help me !! please?
Well, you have two options at the most base level.
1) Buy a premade computer. (Dell, HP, etc)
- These are easy yo set up and use, but come with bloat, and generally a premium
2) Build your own. You can buy the parts on www.newegg.com then put it together yourself. It sounds like you don't know anything about putting one together. However, it's really easy, and you can ask us for help.
For $1000 you're looking at a pretty sweet comp if you build it yourself, and use some parts from your old PC (depending on how old it is). If you go the premade route, you're looking at a more midrange PC, which could be fine just for playing BF2. Depends on how much you care about teh graphix.
A friend of mine picked up a HP Laptop with vista, tv card, and everything else possible the world has to offer. I am really impressed with it. So, I would say go with an HP.
There is always the Alienware, Shuttle, Falcon and what note way to go, but from what I remember those are pricey.
thanks tons guys, my computer is almost ten years old and on dial up heh...i got to an internet cafe to play BF2 and i was addicted to the everquest for a while before when i was staying with my older brother. i've really got no idea what the inside of a computer even looks like lol. But custom seems to be the way to go.
Just get something cheap with an open PCIe slot, then put a ~$120 video card in it. That should be all you need for BF2. If it doesn't like your onboard sound solution then you can add a soundcard in later.
Doooon't get a laptop for gaming. But if you must, get the extended warranty.
Buffalo Firestix FSX800D2C-K2G 2GB 2X1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL5-5-5 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory
Limit to 1 per customer.
In Stock 23691 $99.00 $99.00
They assemble everything for you, install the OS, make sure everything works then ship it out to you. comes out to $1,089.62 before tax and shipping
The problem with pre-builts from hp/dell/wherever is even if they have an open pcie slot, the psu isn't powerful enough to power new video cards, and they often take non-replaceable proprietary psus.. + you won't find a prebuilt w/ the high quality parts i just listed in the build above
oh absolutely, building one yourself is absolutely the way to go.
basically, the most basic way to explain how to put a computer together is to figure out what kind of video card you want (PCI-E or VGA...I'd really not recommend VGA since PCI-E is kinda the replacement) then base your motherboard on your videocard choice + your CPU choice. the CPU is your "speed" per se. I'm an AMD guy so that's my choice, others have great things to say about Intel too (the pentium guys). Then decide on your ram and sound card and any extra stuff you might want.
basically, it all fits together like a puzzle. the videocard can only go into 1 type of slot, the sound card can only go into 1 type of slot and the CPU can only go in the CPU socket...etc. Once you get past the jargon of what everything really means, putting one together yourself is very easy and usually intimidates people because of termonology + fear of "fucking up and losing everything" which is harder to actually do than it sounds.
I fully back Talio's suggestion. I hadn't heard of NCIXUS until now. Neat service. Those are quality parts too. I would have picked nearly the same.
NCIX.com is Canada's Newegg.
Newegg won't assemble it for you though, which is pretty cool. I assume it comes at a cost though.
yeah, if you look at the parts i listed one of them is
" PC ASSEMBLY AND TESTING (PRE-CONFIG OS IF PURCHASED)
In Stock 7842 $39.45 $39.45"
40$ to avoid the hassle and make sure none of your parts have any problems before being shipped to you really isn't all that bad a price, especially if you've never dealt with the innards of a computer before
That sounds just about perfect for the OP. All the benefits of building your own system (price, quality components) without any of the confusion that a first time system builder would face.
It's pretty easy but if the OP is as clueless about computers as he says and has no desire to learn then this truly is the best option.
Antec Sonata II Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 3X5.25 2X3.5 4X3.5IN 450W Air Duct 120MM Fan
In Stock 15422 $104.87 $104.87
Awesome post. You put together a great system for him that can be built within his price range that will kick ass.
But I'd change one thing, the Antec Sonata case. Why? Well you're already buying a separate power supply, so why double dip and pay for two? Especially when an absolutely top rate Antec case, the P180, can be had for under $30 more. Or, to save money, get the 900 gaming case for a mere $78.
Antec Sonata II Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 3X5.25 2X3.5 4X3.5IN 450W Air Duct 120MM Fan
In Stock 15422 $104.87 $104.87
Awesome post. You put together a great system for him that can be built within his price range that will kick ass.
But I'd change one thing, the Antec Sonata case. Why? Well you're already buying a separate power supply, so why double dip and pay for two? Especially when an absolutely top rate Antec case, the P180, can be had for under $30 more. Or, to save money, get the 900 gaming case for a mere $78.
The 900 is fucking top notch. My friend has it. It's amazing.
The 900 is fucking top notch. My friend has it. It's amazing.
I'm currently using a Sonata case, because I was worried about noise. But the one fan in the back leaves a bit to be desired when it gets warm. Any estimation on how loud the 900 is?
I have a wishlist going for a DX10 rig I'm building in about a month with the Nine Hundred on it. $129.99 from Newegg.
Perhaps Canada's Newegg will be my new Newegg.
Seriously, NCIX has made me pay attention lately. I used to be a Newegg first guy, but their prices are getting more and more competitive. In your example, thats and extreme difference.
And while I'm generally comfortable messing with the computer, the option to get it put together for me in a professional manner without any fuss? Well worth the money they charge.
I don't mean to derail this further (though it is just further reinforcing the idea to go with NCIXUS), but I just looked up the monitor I was going to buy from Newegg. The BenQ FP241W.
$729.99 from Newegg
$679.99 from NCIXUS
WTF!?!!?
They also have the EVGA 8800GTX for almost $40 less than Newegg (though it is out of stock at the moment).
The only thing they're beating the Egg on at the moment is the motherboard I selected.
These price differences and the fact that I won't get raped on sales tax (I'm in CA and so is NewEgg, 8.25% tax) is making me seriously reconsider.
EDIT:
I just did a side by side comparison, almost part for part (or their equivilants) with NCIX and Newegg on a full order. The final price difference ended up being $346 after tax and shipping were included. I didn't realize NCIXUS was still shipping out of Canada, so it's about $125 to ship it FedEx air to the U.S. as opposed to $38 for UPS 3 Day (I get it next day living less than 50 miles from the Newegg warehouse). No tax with NCIXUS, $176 for Newegg. Basically the Tax and shipping charges were reversed, with about $30 in shipping insurance being added to the NCIXUS order.
It would probably take a few more days to get here but $350 isn't something to blink at for me.
And you guys are suggesting he build his own system?
I expect a post in a few weeks along the lines of...
"LOLZ! I CAN"T GET MY COMPUTER PUT TOGETHER AND WORKING!!! WHAT IS THE BEEPING SOUND?!?! GUYZ HALP!!!"
Umm, did you even read past the second post?
I just glanced and assumed that the $40 was to make sure your parts aren't fried. That's some CHEAP labor to build and test a system for $40.
I agree, it sounds like a really good deal. It does say that they assemble everything, install whichever OS you buy and test it. From what I read on the site that includes installing all the drivers included on the CD's but not actually downloading the latest. Still, can't beat all that for $40.
Also, it looks like you can have them just do the hardware for $23 and if you spend more than $2000 they do it all for free.
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1) Buy a premade computer. (Dell, HP, etc)
- These are easy yo set up and use, but come with bloat, and generally a premium
2) Build your own. You can buy the parts on www.newegg.com then put it together yourself. It sounds like you don't know anything about putting one together. However, it's really easy, and you can ask us for help.
For $1000 you're looking at a pretty sweet comp if you build it yourself, and use some parts from your old PC (depending on how old it is). If you go the premade route, you're looking at a more midrange PC, which could be fine just for playing BF2. Depends on how much you care about teh graphix.
There is always the Alienware, Shuttle, Falcon and what note way to go, but from what I remember those are pricey.
Doooon't get a laptop for gaming. But if you must, get the extended warranty.
EVGA E-GEFORCE 8800GTS 576MHZ 320MB 1.7GHZ GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV HDCP DIRECTX10 Video Card
In Stock 22689 $262.31 $262.31
Antec Sonata II Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 3X5.25 2X3.5 4X3.5IN 450W Air Duct 120MM Fan
In Stock 15422 $104.87 $104.87
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 320GB SATA2 3GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache NCQ Hard Drive
In Stock 18409 $80.50 $80.50
Mushkin HP-550 550W ATX 12V 24PIN SLI Ready ATX Power Supply 120MM Fan
In Stock 19508 $73.45 $73.45
Samsung SH-S182 DVD+RW 18X8X16 DVD-RW 18X6X16 DL-8X DVD Writer IDE Lightscribe Black OEM W/ Software
In Stock 21331 $35.56 $35.56
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 Conroe 2.00GHZ 800FSB 2MB Retail
In Stock 23694 $149.34 $149.34
Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM
In Stock 6527 $145.46 $145.46
PC ASSEMBLY AND TESTING (PRE-CONFIG OS IF PURCHASED)
In Stock 7842 $39.45 $39.45
EVGA Nforce 650I Ultra Conroe LGA775 ATX 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 RAID Sound GBLAN Motherboard
In Stock 24185 $99.68 $99.68
Buffalo Firestix FSX800D2C-K2G 2GB 2X1GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL5-5-5 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory
Limit to 1 per customer.
In Stock 23691 $99.00 $99.00
They assemble everything for you, install the OS, make sure everything works then ship it out to you. comes out to $1,089.62 before tax and shipping
The problem with pre-builts from hp/dell/wherever is even if they have an open pcie slot, the psu isn't powerful enough to power new video cards, and they often take non-replaceable proprietary psus.. + you won't find a prebuilt w/ the high quality parts i just listed in the build above
basically, the most basic way to explain how to put a computer together is to figure out what kind of video card you want (PCI-E or VGA...I'd really not recommend VGA since PCI-E is kinda the replacement) then base your motherboard on your videocard choice + your CPU choice. the CPU is your "speed" per se. I'm an AMD guy so that's my choice, others have great things to say about Intel too (the pentium guys). Then decide on your ram and sound card and any extra stuff you might want.
basically, it all fits together like a puzzle. the videocard can only go into 1 type of slot, the sound card can only go into 1 type of slot and the CPU can only go in the CPU socket...etc. Once you get past the jargon of what everything really means, putting one together yourself is very easy and usually intimidates people because of termonology + fear of "fucking up and losing everything" which is harder to actually do than it sounds.
NCIX.com is Canada's Newegg.
yeah, if you look at the parts i listed one of them is
" PC ASSEMBLY AND TESTING (PRE-CONFIG OS IF PURCHASED)
In Stock 7842 $39.45 $39.45"
40$ to avoid the hassle and make sure none of your parts have any problems before being shipped to you really isn't all that bad a price, especially if you've never dealt with the innards of a computer before
It's pretty easy but if the OP is as clueless about computers as he says and has no desire to learn then this truly is the best option.
Awesome post. You put together a great system for him that can be built within his price range that will kick ass.
But I'd change one thing, the Antec Sonata case. Why? Well you're already buying a separate power supply, so why double dip and pay for two? Especially when an absolutely top rate Antec case, the P180, can be had for under $30 more. Or, to save money, get the 900 gaming case for a mere $78.
Warframe: TheBaconDwarf
The 900 is fucking top notch. My friend has it. It's amazing.
I have a wishlist going for a DX10 rig I'm building in about a month with the Nine Hundred on it. $129.99 from Newegg.
Perhaps Canada's Newegg will be my new Newegg.
I'm currently using a Sonata case, because I was worried about noise. But the one fan in the back leaves a bit to be desired when it gets warm. Any estimation on how loud the 900 is?
Warframe: TheBaconDwarf
Seriously, NCIX has made me pay attention lately. I used to be a Newegg first guy, but their prices are getting more and more competitive. In your example, thats and extreme difference.
And while I'm generally comfortable messing with the computer, the option to get it put together for me in a professional manner without any fuss? Well worth the money they charge.
Warframe: TheBaconDwarf
Yeah, it's an amazing deal on it.
Hewn: The 900 is fairly loudish. If it matters that much to you, just buy a few 3rd party fans. I personally prefer these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185005
$729.99 from Newegg
$679.99 from NCIXUS
WTF!?!!?
They also have the EVGA 8800GTX for almost $40 less than Newegg (though it is out of stock at the moment).
The only thing they're beating the Egg on at the moment is the motherboard I selected.
These price differences and the fact that I won't get raped on sales tax (I'm in CA and so is NewEgg, 8.25% tax) is making me seriously reconsider.
EDIT:
I just did a side by side comparison, almost part for part (or their equivilants) with NCIX and Newegg on a full order. The final price difference ended up being $346 after tax and shipping were included. I didn't realize NCIXUS was still shipping out of Canada, so it's about $125 to ship it FedEx air to the U.S. as opposed to $38 for UPS 3 Day (I get it next day living less than 50 miles from the Newegg warehouse). No tax with NCIXUS, $176 for Newegg. Basically the Tax and shipping charges were reversed, with about $30 in shipping insurance being added to the NCIXUS order.
It would probably take a few more days to get here but $350 isn't something to blink at for me.
Cheaper at either:
jab-tech.com
or
endpcnoise.com
And you guys are suggesting he build his own system?
I expect a post in a few weeks along the lines of...
"LOLZ! I CAN"T GET MY COMPUTER PUT TOGETHER AND WORKING!!! WHAT IS THE BEEPING SOUND?!?! GUYZ HALP!!!"
Umm, did you even read past the second post?
I just glanced and assumed that the $40 was to make sure your parts aren't fried. That's some CHEAP labor to build and test a system for $40.
I agree, it sounds like a really good deal. It does say that they assemble everything, install whichever OS you buy and test it. From what I read on the site that includes installing all the drivers included on the CD's but not actually downloading the latest. Still, can't beat all that for $40.
Also, it looks like you can have them just do the hardware for $23 and if you spend more than $2000 they do it all for free.