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COMPUTER CRASHED!!! HELP!!!

strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Games and Technology
my computer crashed after someone took off the power plug. I restarted and had to reboot the whole system. I have a 100 GB harddrive and there only seems to be only 5 GB left on the computer now and i have no idea where everything has gone!!

files in "all users" have remained for some reason. I have a hp pavilion using XP edition on my computer. Please help me get back this important information. thank you.

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Do you mean you are missing a ton of data or do you mean that all of your free space has gone missing?

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    my computer crashed after someone took off the power plug. I restarted and had to reboot the whole system.

    What the hell does this even mean? If someone took out the power cable, it was off. Then you turned it back on on, and then restarted again? Once it finished booting after you restarted, 95GB of data was missing?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Restore everything from the regularly scheduled backups you've been making.

    disclaimer: this post is about as useful as your OP.

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  • RaereRaere Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Run chkdsk?

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I have a somewhat related problem.

    I have a 150gb HDD hooked up to my PC. After installing a new GPU motherboard and CPU it is now only being recognised by windows at 30gb.

    Bear in mind i did format the main drive which is still being read at its correct size. I have two HDDs.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Wait so both HDs are external? That could be why the computer crashed when the power plug was removed.

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  • Shujin KatanaShujin Katana ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    a similar problem happened to my girlfriend

    her step father is blind and has prosthetic eyes

    he took them out one night, woke up, one was missing, no dogs were present

    that was about a week and a half ago, no one has been able to locate it, they have no clue what happened

    (shits cost 2000 a piece)

    and man seeing a person without eyes in is absolutely terrifying if you're not warned beforehand

    edit: it's really not that similar but interesting story

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    a similar problem happened to my girlfriend

    her step father is blind and has prosthetic eyes

    he took them out one night, woke up, one was missing, no dogs were present

    that was about a week and a half ago, no one has been able to locate it, they have no clue what happened

    (shits cost 2000 a piece)

    and man seeing a person without eyes in is absolutely terrifying if you're not warned beforehand

    edit: it's really not that similar but interesting story

    8-)

    D:

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i've consumed about 95 GB from the 100 GB before the computer crashed, leaving 5 GB of free space. Now i cannot find any of the 95GB i have used and it only says that i have 5GB left.

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  • Shujin KatanaShujin Katana ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »

    8-)

    D:

    he doesn't do the sunglasses thing, he hates it

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i've consumed about 95 GB from the 100 GB before the computer crashed, leaving 5 GB of free space. Now i cannot find any of the 95GB i have used and it only says that i have 5GB left.

    right click on the drive. go to properties. then I think tools and then check disk for errors.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »

    8-)

    D:

    he doesn't do the sunglasses thing, he hates it

    So he does the walk around with empty eyesockets thing?o_O

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i've consumed about 95 GB from the 100 GB before the computer crashed, leaving 5 GB of free space. Now i cannot find any of the 95GB i have used and it only says that i have 5GB left.

    So the drive says you have 95GB used, which is correct, but you can't find your files? What files are missing? Have you run any sort of disk checking program? Do you own any disk checking programs? What do you expect us to do?

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    maybe he does the eyepatch thing, arrrrrrrr

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  • Shujin KatanaShujin Katana ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »

    8-)

    D:

    he doesn't do the sunglasses thing, he hates it

    So he does the walk around with empty eyesockets thing?o_O

    he just didn't leave the house

    scared me the fuck out though, just wide open bloody sockets man
    i'm all hey ricHWHOAWHATTHEFUCK

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i've consumed about 95 GB from the 100 GB before the computer crashed, leaving 5 GB of free space. Now i cannot find any of the 95GB i have used and it only says that i have 5GB left.

    So the drive says you have 95GB used, which is correct, but you can't find your files? What files are missing? Have you run any sort of disk checking program? Do you own any disk checking programs? What do you expect us to do?

    Are the hidden?

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    running check disk for errors. and i have not made any regular backups. but will do from now on. thanks. update soon. i have tried recovery programs but they have not worked.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    No offense dude, but you sound like the kind of person who should not be doing their own repairs. You might do more harm than good.

    You should probably get someone a little more savvy to come over there and take a look at it. It's probably not as dire as you think.

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i'm probably going to do that monoxide. But, i really want to understand the problem before i ask someone to look at it. so..back to the problem at hand.

    my computer runs XP edition with 3 users and when i look under "documents and settings" it still has the previous accounts (but is not accessible and under properties there seems to be nothing inside)

    Anyone have a reason why?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Your hard drive is probably dying. They do that. In fact, barring weird problems or violent electrical storms, the hard drive is usually the first thing to go on a new computer.

    Back up whatever you can recover and see if you can get the hard drive replaced under warranty.

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  • xtaxta Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i'm probably going to do that monoxide. But, i really want to understand the problem before i ask someone to look at it. so..back to the problem at hand.

    my computer runs XP edition with 3 users and when i look under "documents and settings" it still has the previous accounts (but is not accessible and under properties there seems to be nothing inside)

    Anyone have a reason why?

    i wonder if you lost access to those user accounts. if you can access things in drive c without issues, but if the 95 gb was in user specific accounts, you might have been locked out of them because the computer thinks you don't have the correct credentials to view it

    3-4 years ago, my xp laptop couldn't view any files in the all users area, so after that weird fiasco, i've put some of my data in another partition, so it wouldn't deal with windows user accounts

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I got the computer new in February, so i just need to get the warranty. How would i prevent this kind of problem in the future?

    Is there anyway to access the previous users somehow?

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I got the computer new in February, so i just need to get the warranty. How would i prevent this kind of problem in the future?

    You would back up your important shit regularly.

    Aside from stuff like setting up RAID 1, which is quite frankly over your head, that's it.

    Hard drives just die sometimes. Prepare for it.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    When backing up important data, put it on something tangible and not prone to failure. Like a DVD-R that's put in a safe place where it won't get broken or scratched up. I said DVD-R and not DVD-RW for a reason, you want to make a new backup every time, not just replace the old one. Redundancy is the best failsafe for file storage, since I can't think of a single technology we have that isn't going to fail eventually. Besides, you know, paper. A lot of people use USB hard drives or flash drives for data backup, which isn't the best of ideas because I've seen them fail a hell of a lot.

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  • xtaxta Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    since it was so long ago, i have no idea if i was able to recover any of it.. but i had backups of my info at another place

    i've been resorting to usb external hd for backup.. which is fine, but i should take mono's advice and get even more redundant than that

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I'll take the advise given here to heart and will remember the tips given. But, xta being in the same problem do you know where all your files went? Also, if anyone else has an idea where the files could have gone could you tell me, thanks.

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  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Go do a search on google for a program called spacemonger, it will let you graficly see where all the stuff on a drive is, should be able to track down your files with that

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Unless, of course, they are gone. Which seems quite possible.

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  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Unless, of course, they are gone. Which seems quite possible.

    well yes, that's quite possible.

    but at least he'll know one way or the other with a quick check with spacemonger.

    Lets think postively here, and hope he just like had 90gb's of really hidden porn and just can't find the really deep folder tree he put it in

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    :lol: Come to think of it, that is about the only thing I've seen that kind program used for.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    xta wrote: »
    since it was so long ago, i have no idea if i was able to recover any of it.. but i had backups of my info at another place

    i've been resorting to usb external hd for backup.. which is fine, but i should take mono's advice and get even more redundant than that

    Yeah, I mean, it's cool if you use a USB External as a backup, but they fail pretty often, so you don't want to really rely on them. If your 'important documents' consist of some backed up emails and your resume, it's not like you really need more than that. Your stuff is still safe that way in the unlikely situation that both drives fail at the same time, and something like FileScavenger can't recover anything from either, which is pretty rare.

    But for people with more sensitive and important documents, like say, accounting or banking data, you should really be making hard copies as well. I think a good solution for a home user is keeping them on a local drive, with nightly USB drive backups, then burning the backups to a CD or DVD monthly or bi-weekly. And do a slow burn on some decent media, don't buy a 100 pack of off-brand CD-R's for $10 and burn at 52x without a verification phase and expect your shit to work.

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  • xtaxta Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i really dont think i was able to recover most of the files, because windows messed up and said that the files were not for my user.. even though i was the only user on it. i had a friend in the dorms who was doing comp sci, and maybe we were able to get a couple of the files out.. but it was pretty bad. sorry i cant be more helpful, it happened 4 years ago

    yeah, at least my data isnt stuff like corporate or govt data. i'm not sure if there is a good program out there for backup up documents. as in, i want it to back up my whole hd or certain partitions onto a series of dvds without me micromanaging what files on which, and not in some obscure .backup file format

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I looked up SpaceMonger and i downloaded the 2.1.1 version. here are the stats

    Total size of disk 100 GB
    Used space 8 GB
    Free space 5 GB
    Unscannable 87 GB (which is all the space i've used before but couldn't find. does this mean my hard drive has died?)
    Hidden space 0 bytes

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You might want to try whatever recovery programs came with your pc.

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i've tried one, but didn't work. i have two others i'll try tomorrow, if that doesn't work i'll have to call in an expert. Thanks for all the help everyone.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sounds very much like the drive took out a big chunk of the file allocation tables (or whatever they're called in NTFS) and you've got 87 gigs or so of stuff that's technically still on the drive but basically unrecoverable, since the filesystem doesn't know where each file begins and ends.

    tl;dr: you're fucked, get a new drive.

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  • strider4lifestrider4life Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    lol, but i should still let an expert take a look right, or would that be a waste of money?

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    There are programs that can scan the whole drive, rebuild the table, and get you all your files back. I don't feel comfortable vouching for some random program I found on google so I'll wait for someone else to suggest something specific. My advice to you is, in the mean time, absolutely stop using the computer this instant. The HD is damaged (maybe not physically, but the volume structure is). Anything you do on it could be trampling all over your files. Who knows. Get a recovery program, preferably on a bootable CD, and run it. Then backup and get a new HD, pronto.

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