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New kitten questions.

Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
I figured I would post the pics first, the questions second. I know pics are required payment for any advice about pets.

So this is . My girlfriend and I adopted her from a couple who found her, her sibling, and mother after their mutant owners left them all when they moved. Yes, they should be shot in the mouth (the previous owners).

Anyway, I've had experience with cats before, I've owned several, one from kittenhood, but seems a bit different. I know all the normal stuff, vet, shots, spaying, etc. A few questions though.

How much do kittens normally poop? She seems to be doing it excessively, 4-5 times a day it seems.

She always seems to get a bit of it on her paws though, is there any way to train her out of this? We keep her box as clean as possible, and it seems to happen even if that is her first poop in a clean box.


Thanks!

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  • Aoi TsukiAoi Tsuki Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Holy shit, that's an adorable catling. ;-) Kudos and BJs for adopting her.

    I wouldn't worry about her pooping too much unless it's a weird consistency, she does it compulsively, it seems to hurt her, smells unusually foul, etc. Young'uns of most species tend to have to eat a lot, and it all has to come out somewhere.

    What kind of litter are you using?

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just got my own kitten (10 months), though my family has raised animals for as long as I've been alive. Kittens in particular use the litterbox plenty, so I wouldn't worry. They're growing, so they're processing their food quickly, as well. Don't worry about it. And he'll learn to keep it out of his paws--cats are especially clean animals, though you don't want them walking all over your counters.

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  • phoxphyrephoxphyre Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Aww, that's just cute!

    Ugh! Tracking is nasty, and I have a similar problem. Given that my Oscar is now just over one year old, let me tell you my experience....

    From Oscar, it seems like tracking can be the result of overzealous covering. And you can't really train the burying out of 'em. He still tracks, but not half as much. Even now. We just keep some baby wipes for his feet, and floor cleaning is semi-routine now ;)

    Good luck!

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  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Aoi Tsuki wrote: »
    Holy shit, that's an adorable catling. ;-) Kudos and BJs for adopting her.

    I wouldn't worry about her pooping too much unless it's a weird consistency, she does it compulsively, it seems to hurt her, smells unusually foul, etc. Young'uns of most species tend to have to eat a lot, and it all has to come out somewhere.

    What kind of litter are you using?

    Whoa, mouthsex for adoption...thanks! lol

    What would define weird consistency? I really don't remember the consistency of my last kittens waste. Hers is a bit loose, not watery though.

    I figured as much with the rest, I know kittens have a very high metabolism.

    My last cat only needed his litter changed 2-3 times a week. I change, wait, not change, just empty hers at least once a day.

    EDIT: Forgot the litter question.

    We just use the cheap, storebrand, clumping, flushable litter. Its worked fine for all of the other cats that I've had. Any chance this could be an issue now?

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  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    phoxphyre wrote: »
    Aww, that's just cute!

    Ugh! Tracking is nasty, and I have a similar problem. Given that my Oscar is now just over one year old, let me tell you my experience....

    From Oscar, it seems like tracking can be the result of overzealous covering. And you can't really train the burying out of 'em. He still tracks, but not half as much. Even now. We just keep some baby wipes for his feet, and floor cleaning is semi-routine now ;)

    Good luck!

    Yeah it really is nasty, and given the amount of pooping she does, there is an awful lot of her tracking.

    She does cover quite a bit, well not actually cover her poop, she is one of those cats that scratches everywhere BUT her poop. So I guess we should just call it scratching around.

    Any tips for helping with preventing the floor cleaning? She tends to poop, scratch around alot, and then RUN out of her box. Sending poop and litter around. We put down an old area rug under the box hoping she would at least wipe some of it off, didn't help much.

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  • phoxphyrephoxphyre Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Hmm, just a thought: what type of food are you feeding her? It should be kitten food specifically! This contains more nutrients than regular cat stuff. This might be why she's eating so much? (And hence using her litter box ...)

    If she is eating kitten food, try putting her onto one of the vet-specific brands. Maybe it's a digestion difficulty... Some of the kitten foods contain a lot of filler. <shrug>

    That's one of the things that I notice with my new kitten -- she was bought up with a Chef kitten food breakfast, and a large dinner in addition to having biscuits all the time. Boy does she use the litter box! I'm looking forward to stopping the breakfast, and encouraging her to eat more biscuits...

    Re: tracking. It's a toughie! Have you tried putting a layer of newspaper under and around her box? It's a tad more absorbent than a rug, and might pick more off her feet. But you will always have to do some floor cleaning with this type of cat. On the bright side (from my experience at least), it does eventually reduce itself!

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  • ZeeBeeKayZeeBeeKay Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    If you don't have one specifically, a litter box with a lid + a towel fastened over the door will help her stop leaping out of the litter box and spraying litter everywhere. As will another box facing the first one, though that's less practical with only one cat (we had two with this set up)

    She's adorable!

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  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    These are actually pretty good at catching some stray litter. My cats still like to launch out of the litterbox, but that catches most of it.

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  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    phoxphyre wrote: »
    Hmm, just a thought: what type of food are you feeding her? It should be kitten food specifically! This contains more nutrients than regular cat stuff. This might be why she's eating so much? (And hence using her litter box ...)

    If she is eating kitten food, try putting her onto one of the vet-specific brands. Maybe it's a digestion difficulty... Some of the kitten foods contain a lot of filler. <shrug>

    That's one of the things that I notice with my new kitten -- she was bought up with a Chef kitten food breakfast, and a large dinner in addition to having biscuits all the time. Boy does she use the litter box! I'm looking forward to stopping the breakfast, and encouraging her to eat more biscuits...

    Re: tracking. It's a toughie! Have you tried putting a layer of newspaper under and around her box? It's a tad more absorbent than a rug, and might pick more off her feet. But you will always have to do some floor cleaning with this type of cat. On the bright side (from my experience at least), it does eventually reduce itself!

    Yes, its Purina Kitten Food, mostly dry, but supplimented with a bit of wet about once a day. She doesn't seem to be overeating or having digestion problems, but its worth a thought.

    By biscuits do you mean treats? Everything I've heard says that you shouldn't give them too many. Just a few a day, max.

    I might try the newspaper, it will at least be easier to get rid of, or clean. Lets hope she quits it a bit though!

    Our current litter box has a lid, with a relatively small openeing. I'm worried putting anything over that will make her not use it. She is really small.

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  • phoxphyrephoxphyre Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Huh, bizzare... From my (3 kitten) experience, with a diet like that she shouldn't be pooping 4-5 times a day. But, every kitten is different, and as long as her bottom isn't raw, things should even out :)

    By 'biscuits' I mean dried cat food in pellet form, and Purina should be fine :) But if you want to try something else, most vets have samples. Treats like Love Hearts, etc ... shouldn't do any harm, and probably help making friends :)

    Good luck, and have fun!

    Remember: Newspaper is your friend, my new kitten looooves little balls of paper!

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Purina is pretty terrible food; lots of fillers, which means she needs to eat more to get the nutrients she needs. Try switching to something like Nutro or Blue Buffalo.

    First five ingredients for Purina Kitten Food: Poultry by-product meal, rice flour, corn gluten meal, wheat flour, beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (source of vitamin E),

    First five for Blue Buffalo kitten food: Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barley, Salmon Meal

    Cats don't digest grains, those are pretty much there to fill out the food and make you have to feed more of it. The more meat you have in the first 5 ingredients, the better the food. Plus, anything "byproducts" is pretty nasty, meaning feet, beaks, tumors, anything completely unfit for human consumption. The better food is more expensive, but a bag of it will last a lot longer and less bulk of food in = less poop coming out. (Plus, in my experience, said poop smells a heck of a lot better.)

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  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Trowizilla wrote: »
    Purina is pretty terrible food; lots of fillers, which means she needs to eat more to get the nutrients she needs. Try switching to something like Nutro or Blue Buffalo.

    First five ingredients for Purina Kitten Food: Poultry by-product meal, rice flour, corn gluten meal, wheat flour, beef tallow preserved with mixed-tocopherols (source of vitamin E),

    First five for Blue Buffalo kitten food: Deboned Chicken, Chicken Meal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Whole Ground Barley, Salmon Meal

    Cats don't digest grains, those are pretty much there to fill out the food and make you have to feed more of it. The more meat you have in the first 5 ingredients, the better the food. Plus, anything "byproducts" is pretty nasty, meaning feet, beaks, tumors, anything completely unfit for human consumption. The better food is more expensive, but a bag of it will last a lot longer and less bulk of food in = less poop coming out. (Plus, in my experience, said poop smells a heck of a lot better.)

    This is a really good point, more fillers would mean more poop.

    I will try switching to something with actual food in it.

    Thanks!

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  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Trowizilla wrote: »
    Try switching to something like Nutro or Blue Buffalo.
    Has anyone shopped around and compared the premium pet foods? I currently feed my cat Hill's Science Diet, and someone in a previous cat thread recommended Evo, which I was going to look into. Are Nutro, Blue Buffalo and Evo all about the same?

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Orogogus wrote: »
    Trowizilla wrote: »
    Try switching to something like Nutro or Blue Buffalo.
    Has anyone shopped around and compared the premium pet foods? I currently feed my cat Hill's Science Diet, and someone in a previous cat thread recommended Evo, which I was going to look into. Are Nutro, Blue Buffalo and Evo all about the same?

    The way to tell with cat foods is to look at the first five ingredients (info available online, yay!) The more actual meat in there (and not byproducts), the better the food. Wheat is terrible for cats and a lot of them are actually allergic to it, and brewer's rice isn't very good either.

    The Hills stuff is nutritionally pretty mediocre, but a lot of the prescription stuff is helpful for specific problems. If your cat isn't having medical issues, a switch would probably be good. I've heard excellent things about Evo.

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  • Matt!Matt! Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    When we first got our cat, he pooped 4-5 times a day and the smell was terrible. We switched to Nutro and within a week he was pooping less and the smell was almost non-existant.

    To some people cat food is just cat food, but if it means you have to clean the litter box less and it keeps your house smelling better, it's worth it.

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  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sweet tapdancing Christ!

    I just looked at the entire ingredient list on the Purina food. 95% of it is crap. Byproducts, chemicals, and stuff that cats apparently cannot even digest.

    I actually apologized to my cat for the shit I was giving her.

    This is so odd too, I always read the ingredients on EVERYTHING I eat, I feel bad for not thinking about it for her.

    I guess cat food shouldn't be just cat food. I am seriously going to get something better for her.

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  • Matt!Matt! Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Sweet tapdancing Christ!

    I just looked at the entire ingredient list on the Purina food. 95% of it is crap. Byproducts, chemicals, and stuff that cats apparently cannot even digest.

    I actually apologized to my cat for the shit I was giving her.

    This is so odd too, I always read the ingredients on EVERYTHING I eat, I feel bad for not thinking about it for her.

    I guess cat food shouldn't be just cat food. I am seriously going to get something better for her.

    i wouldnt be so hard on yourself. after all its a cat, not a people.

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  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I feed my cats this. And uh, they really seem to do fine. Mind you, it's adult cat food, but still, they don't seem to be dying, and their poo isn't making me want to run screaming from the building.

    Also, I've never fed cats wet food every day, that might be part of it? I've always kept to dry food myself, only feeding wet food on occasion as a treat.

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  • WeretacoWeretaco Cubicle Gangster Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    We just use the cheap, storebrand, clumping, flushable litter. Its worked fine for all of the other cats that I've had. Any chance this could be an issue now?


    We've always used clumping cat litter with our cats and never had an issue (The big giant boxes from costco)

    I have read that they can potentially cause health issues with cats though. Apparently it can get in their fur and when they bathe themselves they ingest it. The little can then clump in their digestive tracks causing issues over time.

    I've never had it happen to one of my cats but it is something to keep in mind.

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  • Omnicron9999Omnicron9999 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Matt! wrote: »
    Sweet tapdancing Christ!

    I just looked at the entire ingredient list on the Purina food. 95% of it is crap. Byproducts, chemicals, and stuff that cats apparently cannot even digest.

    I actually apologized to my cat for the shit I was giving her.

    This is so odd too, I always read the ingredients on EVERYTHING I eat, I feel bad for not thinking about it for her.

    I guess cat food shouldn't be just cat food. I am seriously going to get something better for her.

    i wouldnt be so hard on yourself. after all its a cat, not a people.

    :P I was being a bit dramatic. But I really was shocked to see all the crap they throw in there.

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    A food that's good yet cheap is Costco's brand, Kirklands. It has real chicken as the first couple ingredients, no corn, etc., yet is cheaper than grocery store brands like Purina.

    Here is their ingredient list:
    Chicken, chicken meal, whole grain brown rice, ground white rice, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), natural chicken flavor, flaxseed, potassium chloride, salt, calcium sulfate, calcuim carbonate, methionine, choline chloride, taurine, dried chicory root, zinc proteinate, vitamin E supplement, niacin, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, thiamine mononitrae, vitamin A supplement, biotin, potassium iodide, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin, pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, mangaous oxide, sodium selenite, vitamin D supplement, folic acid

    My kitties used to be on Science Diet and their poop is waaay less stinky on Kirklands.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    My cat eats California Natural, which as far as I can tell is close to no filler (the first five ingredients are chicken, chicken meal, chicken fat, brown rice and corn meal, and almost all of the rest is nutrients). My cat's poop is not smelly at all. In fact, the only time you know you have to clean her litter box is when you can smell the ammonia from her urine.

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  • MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Mine is on Iam's but now I am going to check the label and check out alternatives.

    She pooped a lot when she was a kitten but that may have been the various shots she had to get (born feral, had to get her fully healthy after we caught her). She's a lot better now.

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  • phoxphyrephoxphyre Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Me (and by proxy my cat's tummies) now wish we lived in the States/EU... In NZ we have virtually no options... Iams, Science Diet, Nutra Natural Choice, Purina, and eukanuba are pretty much the cream of the crop here :(

    Grr...

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