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I'm Thirsty

FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
edited June 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
I've been trying to cut out soda in my life. I don't like any diet sodas, and water just isn't enough for me, so I tried fruit juices. I found Minute Maid Fruit Punch. It's really good, pretty tangy, but not way too tangy like Pineapple juice or something. It's a good mix, and I like it a lot. But then I realized that on the carton it says that each serving has 32g of carbohydrates. Does that mean that it is basically just as unhealthy as the Coca-Cola that the same company produces? Or is it somehow different?

Basically, I need a healthy fruit juice to drink that is as similar to this Fruit Punch as possible, or at least an explanation about how this is still healthy.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Check the ingredients, but I'd be willing to bet cash money that it's flavored with high-fructose corn syrup, which is to say that yeah, it's just as bad as soda.

    Try Crystal Light's fruit punch, provided you're not phenylketonuric.

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    EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    it's healthy because it has vitamins. That's all. Fruit juices usually have more calories or sugars. The trick is to find ones that are 100% juice, not sweetened with high fructose corn syrup. If they use actual fruit sugars, you're less likely to get fat. Of course, any sort of "punch" is basically HFCS + some juice.

    But no, they are not "diet drinks" and if you're trying to cut soda out of your life because of the calories/sugars, fruit juices are unfortunately the wrong way to go about it.

    why are you trying to cut sodas out of your life, and what is it about sodas that you enjoy?

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    FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just like drinking something that has something to it. It seems like I'm always thirsty, and the only way to not be thirsty is to drink something tart or carbonated, rather than flat water. Frankly, any suggestions that aren't Fruit Juices that can be found in your average Southern supermarket would be good. Maybe a title change is in order... Also, I threw away the box, but Minute Maid's site say it's 100% juice (lists 4 different juices, Citric Acid, Vitamin C, Calcium Citrate, and Natural Flavors), just still with just as many carbs as soda.

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    Uncle LongUncle Long Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Tea, man, tea. A whole world to explore. A lot of them have some great health benefits (though, to be honest, I tend to find these claims a bit dubious). Also, teas like green tea have just the right amount of caffeine imo to give you a nice focused buzz instead of the erratic up and down of higher doses.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just like drinking something that has something to it. It seems like I'm always thirsty, and the only way to not be thirsty is to drink something tart or carbonated, rather than flat water. Frankly, any suggestions that aren't Fruit Juices that can be found in your average Southern supermarket would be good. Maybe a title change is in order... Also, I threw away the box, but Minute Maid's site say it's 100% juice (lists 4 different juices, Citric Acid, Vitamin C, Calcium Citrate, and Natural Flavors), just still with just as many carbs as soda.
    I just checked the site, and for the Fruit Punch it said 5% fruit juice.

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    MoSiAcMoSiAc Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I have to recomend tea as well. You can even had real fruit to it to give it a bit of a different flavor from time to time. Pre made canned tea is sometimes as bad as soda so make it yourself if you like a darker tea and green tea is good anytime either, but make it yourself and itll be that much better for you.

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    FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I just like drinking something that has something to it. It seems like I'm always thirsty, and the only way to not be thirsty is to drink something tart or carbonated, rather than flat water. Frankly, any suggestions that aren't Fruit Juices that can be found in your average Southern supermarket would be good. Maybe a title change is in order... Also, I threw away the box, but Minute Maid's site say it's 100% juice (lists 4 different juices, Citric Acid, Vitamin C, Calcium Citrate, and Natural Flavors), just still with just as many carbs as soda.
    I just checked the site, and for the Fruit Punch it said 5% fruit juice.

    Hm. Either way, still too much sugar.

    I like tea, but I can't drink a hot drink with a meal or something, especially with summer and it being a major drought right now, so I need something cold and refreshing, with a kick to it.

    And cold tea I cannot take.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Seriously, man, Crystal Light. I like the lemonade and fruit punch, but it comes in all kinds of flavors, and it's way cheaper than most of the shit you're talking about if you mix your own.

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    MrIamMeMrIamMe Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Since you arent a fan of plain water let me suggest this.

    Get some fruit, juice said fruit, add to water like cordial.

    Bang, water, some vitamins and natural sugars. Also Flavour.

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    MoSiAcMoSiAc Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You dont like sweet tea?

    Its not as great for you as green tea but its ice cold and with some lemon or strawberries or rasberries in it its great.

    I understand where you are coming from with water it seems no matter how much of that I drink I never seem to actually stop being thirsty.

    You could try adding some chopped fruit in water but then you're just having fruit juice really.

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    FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    MoSiAc wrote: »
    You dont like sweet tea?

    As any respectful Southerner, I love sweet tea. But if you think it's somehow healthy or in any way low-carb or capable of quenching anyone's thirst, you're mistaken. It is fucking delicious, though.

    But I'll probably just go pick up Crystal Light like Than said. I've only had it with vodka, and even then it tasted damn good for a mixed drink, so it'll probably work out.

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    MoSiAcMoSiAc Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    MoSiAc wrote: »
    You dont like sweet tea?

    As any respectful Southerner, I love sweet tea. But if you think it's somehow healthy or in any way low-carb or capable of quenching anyone's thirst, you're mistaken. It is fucking delicious, though.

    But I'll probably just go pick up Crystal Light like Than said. I've only had it with vodka, and even then it tasted damn good for a mixed drink, so it'll probably work out.

    Well my parents have to make it with fake sugar so I haven't had it with real sugar in a long long time.

    I figured it would be better then soda though :|

    Crystal LIght is pretty good stuff, I wish I could get it where I am.

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    AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    take some tea bags, and place them in a pitcher. Fill said pitcher, and let the tea sit there for a while. Add some splenda, pop some sliced lemon in, and possibly even some mint leaves withe ice cubes, and you'll be golden. Tasty, AND healthy.

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    bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Hit up sparkling water! (Club Soda in your parts?) It's refreshing and it has that bubbly zing that ordinary water can't provide. And it's just water! It's great with a squeeze of lime juice if you're feeling fancy.

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    LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    In the same vein of sparkling water, Crystal Geyser makes some pretty tasty drinks that are better for you than soda. I don't have one on hand to check for High Fructose syrup, but I know there are some with 70% juice or higher.

    They wouldn't be as low sugar as Crystal Light, however.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Tea contains caffeine so it's not exactly great for re-hydrating. In fact, it's what scientists call bad. Unless you're specifically buying decaffeinated green tea or tea, you'll potentially be consuming more caffeine than if you just drank coffee all the time.

    Do you have Robinsons in the US? They make fruit juice concentrates that are great for flavoring water. Head for the sugar free versions.

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    The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Dude, lemon cordial. Not too strong though.

    That will ween you onto water.

    ALSO, get one of them fridge jug things and fill it with water and put about 2/3's od a lemon worth of lemon slices in there.

    Insert into fridge.

    It gets rid of the tap taste.

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    Ashaman42Ashaman42 Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Tea contains caffeine so it's not exactly great for re-hydrating. In fact, it's what scientists call bad. Unless you're specifically buying decaffeinated green tea or tea, you'll potentially be consuming more caffeine than if you just drank coffee all the time.

    Do you have Robinsons in the US? They make fruit juice concentrates that are great for flavoring water. Head for the sugar free versions.

    I thought tea, whilst not as good as water, wasn't all that bad for rehydration. As in whilst it does make you pee a bit more you still get a net gain of water. I think what I read said something like for every cup ot tea you drink you gain half a cups worth of water compared to the nearly whole cups worth if you were drinking just water.

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    AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Just get decaffeinated tea. It's not exactly a rare thing.

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    The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Tea contains caffeine so it's not exactly great for re-hydrating. In fact, it's what scientists call bad. Unless you're specifically buying decaffeinated green tea or tea, you'll potentially be consuming more caffeine than if you just drank coffee all the time.

    Do you have Robinsons in the US? They make fruit juice concentrates that are great for flavoring water. Head for the sugar free versions.

    Not all of them. Rooibos blends are caffeine-free, as is anything that just has fruit/herb bits in. Your standard earl gray type will have some, but you have the option of making it weak, and even then its a much lower dose than you'd get in a coffee or even a coke, so the diuretic effect is almost nonexistent.

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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Plus Rooibos is delicious. Just be aware that you shouldn't be putting milk or sugar in it. Although it works well with cloves and black pepper. Or you can ice it and serve with mint, although I found that pretty terrible I know quite a few who love it.

    There seems to be a lot of advice for trying things with fake sugar in them. Sweeteners are usually much worse for you than actual sugar, then again I suppose anything is better than HFCS.

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    The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    Sucralose makes me pretty much instantly nauseous, and I'm not the only person I know who reacts to it like that. YMMV.

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    SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited June 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    Tea contains caffeine so it's not exactly great for re-hydrating. In fact, it's what scientists call bad. Unless you're specifically buying decaffeinated green tea or tea, you'll potentially be consuming more caffeine than if you just drank coffee all the time.

    Do you have Robinsons in the US? They make fruit juice concentrates that are great for flavoring water. Head for the sugar free versions.

    Not all of them. Rooibos blends are caffeine-free, as is anything that just has fruit/herb bits in. Your standard earl gray type will have some, but you have the option of making it weak, and even then its a much lower dose than you'd get in a coffee or even a coke, so the diuretic effect is almost nonexistent.

    Oh yeah, I wasn't thinking of fruit tea, they be ok.

    And still, while the caffeine dose might not be as high as coffee or coke, it's still not a good daily substitute for water. One or two cups of black or green tea over the course of the day is fine (in fact, may be crucial if you're currently addicted to caffeinated sodas), but you should still be taking at least a good 2 litres or so of untainted water.

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    poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    You should really try tea, but you're probably going to have to get used to unsweetened tea (of any type, how about Oolong Tea if you can get it?). Giving up soda sounds good, but it's giving up sweet-tasting things that really matters.

    Note that this is something I haven't really managed, but being British and living in Asia, I drink a lot of tea, and it's pretty great.

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    poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Ashaman42 wrote: »
    Tea contains caffeine so it's not exactly great for re-hydrating. In fact, it's what scientists call bad. Unless you're specifically buying decaffeinated green tea or tea, you'll potentially be consuming more caffeine than if you just drank coffee all the time.

    Do you have Robinsons in the US? They make fruit juice concentrates that are great for flavoring water. Head for the sugar free versions.

    I thought tea, whilst not as good as water, wasn't all that bad for rehydration. As in whilst it does make you pee a bit more you still get a net gain of water. I think what I read said something like for every cup ot tea you drink you gain half a cups worth of water compared to the nearly whole cups worth if you were drinking just water.

    British and Japanese people often drink tea pretty much all day to no ill-effect that I've noticed.

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    SeruleSerule Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    poshniallo wrote: »
    British and Japanese people often drink tea pretty much all day to no ill-effect that I've noticed.

    Tea can stain your teeth. On the other hand, the antioxidants in green tea might make you live longer.

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    dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    Sucralose makes me pretty much instantly nauseous, and I'm not the only person I know who reacts to it like that. YMMV.

    That's not uncommon, we get a lot of people at work who are allergic to artificial sugars in various ways. Personally I get a migraine headache if I have more than a tiny amount.

    I drink a huge pitcher of decaff tea every 2 days. I dont drink soda at all, and only had a hard time when I quit drinking soda for like a week. You just have to do it. Fiddling around and trying to find a substitute will only make you want the real thing.

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    AtomBombAtomBomb Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I agree on the Crystal Light. I like the strawberry kiwi flavor. My wife also enjoys making fun of me for drinking something they advertise on the Lifetime Network.

    Although, I have no problem with water. I probably drink that more than anything else.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Tea contains caffeine so it's not exactly great for re-hydrating. In fact, it's what scientists call bad. Unless you're specifically buying decaffeinated green tea or tea, you'll potentially be consuming more caffeine than if you just drank coffee all the time.
    This is a total myth.

    If you don't normally drink caffeine, a caffeinated drink's dehydrating effect will make it worth about 3/4 the same amount of water. If you do normally drink caffeine (or get in the habit of it), the effect goes away completely.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    And still, while the caffeine dose might not be as high as coffee or coke, it's still not a good daily substitute for water. One or two cups of black or green tea over the course of the day is fine (in fact, may be crucial if you're currently addicted to caffeinated sodas), but you should still be taking at least a good 2 litres or so of untainted water.
    This is yet another myth. You get most of the water you need from the food you eat. Extra water isn't helping you do anything, it's just lining the pockets of the bottled water companies. The amount of water you need per day is enough so that you're no longer thirsty.

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    xizoesiraxizoesira Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Water will quench your thirst once you get used to not relying on that fizzy feeling to feel refreshed... and then you'll realize how much better you feel, look back, and ask, what the hell was I doing to my body before?

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    DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    try Szechuanosaurus' idea of mixing your own juice.
    i gave up soda pop a while back (unfortunately I replaced it with beer .... mmm delicious beer), tried juices, found them all way too sweet, started mixing my own juice using concentrates (knudsen's). maybe cranberry or pomegranite concentrate (1 part concentrate to 4+ parts water), add orange juice or apple juice to sweeten. the stuff is pricey, like $8/quart but a little goes a long way. of course i don't like sweet so maybe it's not for everyone. use carbonated water to make it fizzy.

    also, caffeine is a much maligned, but lovely chemical.

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    mrcheesypantsmrcheesypants Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Have you tried minute maid lemonade light? It's not the best tasting drink on the market (nor is it the worst), but it's one of the best thirst quenchers out there.

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    ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Thanatos wrote: »
    And still, while the caffeine dose might not be as high as coffee or coke, it's still not a good daily substitute for water. One or two cups of black or green tea over the course of the day is fine (in fact, may be crucial if you're currently addicted to caffeinated sodas), but you should still be taking at least a good 2 litres or so of untainted water.
    This is yet another myth. You get most of the water you need from the food you eat. Extra water isn't helping you do anything, it's just lining the pockets of the bottled water companies. The amount of water you need per day is enough so that you're no longer thirsty.

    My biology professor, who is also a nutritional freak, and his three PhDs would like to have a word with you outside.

    edit: also Stalin, the reason water is not enough is because you are not used to it. Push yourself out of the comfort zone and you will eventually loathe the taste of shitty sweetened juices and the like. But if you want some good juice at least get some V8 or better yet Libby's Juicy Juice. 100% juice, all natural.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Shogun wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    And still, while the caffeine dose might not be as high as coffee or coke, it's still not a good daily substitute for water. One or two cups of black or green tea over the course of the day is fine (in fact, may be crucial if you're currently addicted to caffeinated sodas), but you should still be taking at least a good 2 litres or so of untainted water.
    This is yet another myth. You get most of the water you need from the food you eat. Extra water isn't helping you do anything, it's just lining the pockets of the bottled water companies. The amount of water you need per day is enough so that you're no longer thirsty.
    My biology professor, who is also a nutritional freak, and his three PhDs would like to have a word with you outside.
    Many, many, many, many experts disagree with him. Google "water myth" and you will see how many.

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    lsahdjflsahdjf Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I really like Vitamin Water. I highly recommend that. It's kind of expensive though so I stick to drinking 1-2 bottles a day.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I can't drink water from the tap. It actually makes me nauseous. However, at work there's a water cooler and I can guzzle that - try bottled water? Or get a water filter. Because it's about the only thing that'll hydrate you with a whole bunch of other things to worry about.

    I also drink an apple cocktail that's supposed to be unsweetened and low carb. But I usually stick with milk and water, so ymmv.

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    ZclyhZclyh Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    No matter what you choose, remember to take things in moderation.

    Two years ago I quit working in fast food and cut soda out of my diet immediately, almost "cold turkey". It helped a LOT. I mostly drank water, but I drank juices or teas (cold) a couple of times a day as a "treat". With my new diet and a little walking, it helped me lose 60 lbs.

    So, yes, water can be "annoying", in a sense, but like what was previously suggested, "train" yourself to enjoy it. Besides, you wouldn't want a kindey stone (the big reason I cut sodas and coffee out of my diet). Believe me, they hurt.

    Best of luck to you.

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    EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Nova_C wrote: »
    I can't drink water from the tap. It actually makes me nauseous. However, at work there's a water cooler and I can guzzle that - try bottled water? Or get a water filter. Because it's about the only thing that'll hydrate you with a whole bunch of other things to worry about.

    You may have bad pipes, but try this -- pour the water out of the tap into a plain pitcher, and store it in the fridge overnight. The next day, see if you can handle that.

    A lot of water cooler water, or water that's dispensed from a holding tank, is able to "breathe" which lets the minute amounts of chlorine dissipate as well as allow a few other bits and bobs to evaporate. Water from the city isn't bad, unless the pipes in your house are bad, and a lot of people who dislike tap water have that feeling due to the whiff of chlorine they can sometimes smell.

    If it doesn't help, you're only out some water. But it's something the OP should keep in mind, as well. Personally, I've got a brita thing that fits very well in my fridge, but I don't really pay attention to the filter since the water doesn't taste any different with a brand new filter in.

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    Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I've tried that and for some reason - whether I use plastic or glass, the water gets this weird taste. I haven't actually tried a water filter myself, only that I can drink bottled water or water cooler water without wanting to throw it back up.

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