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    PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I'm bored, so I'll update the list.

    1.Smash Brothers
    2.
    3. StarFox
    4. Kirby
    5.
    6. Metroid
    7.
    8.Pokemon
    9.Zelda
    10. Mario
    11.Yoshi
    12.
    13.
    14.
    15.
    16. Wario
    17.
    18. Kid Icarus

    The only addition is Wario as number 16.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Who's Sakurai?

    And, they NEED to put Marina Liteyears from Mischief Makers in this game

    Sakurai's the creator of Smash Bros., along with I think Kirby.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Did you know: Kirby was named after Jack Kirby, the lawyer for Nintendo when they were sued by MGM for copyright infringement because of the character "Donkey Kong" strongly resembling "King Kong." He won the case.

    (I am not 100% sure that's really where the name comes from, but I'm like 85% sure)

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Did you know: Kirby was named after Jack Kirby, the lawyer for Nintendo when they were sued by MGM for copyright infringement because of the character "Donkey Kong" strongly resembling "King Kong." He won the case.

    (I am not 100% sure that's really where the name comes from, but I'm like 85% sure)
    It's debatable. There's also rumor that he's named after Kirby Corporation, a vacuum cleaner company. Also I think it's John Kirby.

    Edit: Yes it is.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_%28Nintendo%29#Concept_and_creation

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Ah, it was also Universal, not MGM. Good to know I'm not spreading horrible rumors.

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I have no comment at this time.

    I'm just posting to mark this thread so I can find it easier. >.>

    Please forgive me.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think I remember a comment he made back when Meta Knight was announced that he didn't like putting Kirby characters in over other characters, because he felt like he was being selfish or narcissistic.

    Which means that Marx probably won't ever get into Smash. D:

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    TigTig Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Seeing as there will be nothing new to talk about until Monday, I guess it's time for more photoshop funnies.

    Soo....
    anyone?

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think I remember a comment he made back when Meta Knight was announced that he didn't like putting Kirby characters in over other characters, because he felt like he was being selfish or narcissistic.

    Which means that Marx probably won't ever get into Smash. D:
    Dang, no King Dedede either.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I think I remember a comment he made back when Meta Knight was announced that he didn't like putting Kirby characters in over other characters, because he felt like he was being selfish or narcissistic.

    Which means that Marx probably won't ever get into Smash. D:
    Or it means that he will make a spinoff called Super Smash Kirby.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I just hope he's not too humble to actually make Kirby a good character this time.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    I just hope he's not too humble to actually make Kirby a good character this time.
    Man, Kirby kicks ass in Melee it's not even funny.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    skeldare wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    I just hope he's not too humble to actually make Kirby a good character this time.
    Man, Kirby kicks ass in Melee it's not even funny.
    He kicked ass in SSB. In Melee he's pretty meh.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    I just hope he's not too humble to actually make Kirby a good character this time.
    Man, Kirby kicks ass in Melee it's not even funny.
    He kicked ass in SSB. In Melee he's pretty meh.
    How so?

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    AggroChanAggroChan __BANNED USERS regular
    edited June 2007
    skeldare wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    I just hope he's not too humble to actually make Kirby a good character this time.
    Man, Kirby kicks ass in Melee it's not even funny.
    He kicked ass in SSB. In Melee he's pretty meh.
    How so?
    He had alot more weight in SSB and he was more solid. In SSBM he was alot more floaty and his forward A really blows.

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    NORNOR Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Kirby's attacks have very slow animations, his air attacking in particular. He's lacking in reach, he falls pretty fast, he's not at all very powerful or very damaging, he's light as hell.

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    JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Peewi wrote: »
    I'm bored, so I'll update the list.

    1.Smash Brothers
    2.
    3. StarFox
    4. Kirby
    5.
    6. Metroid
    7.
    8.Pokemon
    9.Zelda
    10. Mario
    11.Yoshi
    12.
    13.
    14.
    15.
    16. Wario
    17.
    18. Kid Icarus

    The only addition is Wario as number 16.

    Thanks, I'll add this right away.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Previously people had filled in the list with the other known icons, like so:

    1.Smash Brothers
    2. Donkey Kong
    3. StarFox
    4. Kirby
    5. F-Zero
    6. Metroid
    7. Earthbound
    8.Pokemon
    9.Zelda
    10. Mario
    11.Yoshi
    12. Ice Climber
    13. Fire Emblem
    14. Game & Watch
    15.
    16. Wario
    17. Metal Gear
    18. Kid Icarus

    Which makes for at least one unannounced series in Brawl, theoretically.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I'm betting against G&W returning. He was a meh character that not a lot of people care about, and his unlcoking seemed more like a joke than anything else.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    I'm betting against G&W returning. He was a meh character that not a lot of people care about, and his unlcoking seemed more like a joke than anything else.

    It's not as if they intentionally made him a joke character though. And they don't even need to redo his model. They can just copy/paste him from melee with a few tweaks to make him balanced. I don't see any reason why they would remove a character that's so easy to convert.

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    NORNOR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    I'm betting against G&W returning. He was a meh character that not a lot of people care about, and his unlcoking seemed more like a joke than anything else.

    It's not as if they intentionally made him a joke character though. And they don't even need to redo his model. They can just copy/paste him from melee with a few tweaks to make him balanced. I don't see any reason why they would remove a character that's so easy to convert.

    Disk space is the only reason really.

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    YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    I'm betting against G&W returning. He was a meh character that not a lot of people care about, and his unlcoking seemed more like a joke than anything else.

    It's not as if they intentionally made him a joke character though. And they don't even need to redo his model. They can just copy/paste him from melee with a few tweaks to make him balanced. I don't see any reason why they would remove a character that's so easy to convert.

    Because he's ugly and no one played as him?

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    NORNOR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ugly?

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    SnorkSnork word Jamaica Plain, MARegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I love Game and Watch.

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    Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Huh.

    I didn't actually know Sakurai invented Kirby.

    Why have the recent Kirby games been so mediocre if he's in charge?

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    NOR wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    I'm betting against G&W returning. He was a meh character that not a lot of people care about, and his unlcoking seemed more like a joke than anything else.

    It's not as if they intentionally made him a joke character though. And they don't even need to redo his model. They can just copy/paste him from melee with a few tweaks to make him balanced. I don't see any reason why they would remove a character that's so easy to convert.

    Disk space is the only reason really.

    No way in hell are they going to remove characters because they're out of space on the disk.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Flippy_D wrote: »
    Huh.

    I didn't actually know Sakurai invented Kirby.

    Why have the recent Kirby games been so mediocre if he's in charge?
    Because he's not. He left HAL in 2003 after joing Q Entertainment. Though now he formed Sora.

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    Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Much very sense.

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    TigTig Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    NOR wrote: »

    No way in hell are they going to remove characters because they're out of space on the disk.

    Especially not Mr Game & Watch :D
    That character's model and textures must take up all of, ooh, 5kb?

    Nah, I reckon they'll leave characters like G&W out simply because they can't fit an unlimited number of faces on the character select screen.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    They could easily fit twice as many characters as in SSB:M without breaking a sweat.

    I don't understand why people are such apologists when it comes to removing non-clone characters from Brawl. There really isn't any good reason to do it, but everyone's like "Well, I don't play them anyway..." Every character in the game is the favorite of a lot of people. Trying to dismiss the impact of the removal of an established character doesn't make it a good decision. The only character removals that are justified, IMHO, are the clone characters besides Ganondorf, who are all minor characters and just confuse issues of game balance.

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    SpeakeasySpeakeasy Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    They could easily fit twice as many characters as in SSB:M without breaking a sweat.

    That's what I was about to say. The Gamecube disk could only hold 1.5 gigs, where the Wii disk (assuming it's a DVD) holds 4.7 gigs. No way space is any way a problem now.

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    NORNOR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    confuse issues of game balance.

    bwah?

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    NOR wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    confuse issues of game balance.

    bwah?

    It's very difficult to give two characters the exact same movesets just with a different set of stats, and have them both be equally balanced.

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    NORNOR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    NOR wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    confuse issues of game balance.

    bwah?

    It's very difficult to give two characters the exact same movesets just with a different set of stats, and have them both be equally balanced.

    Uhh... whole new movesets and different stats is harder to balance. More variables. Clones are a very good thing from a game balance, design, and content standpoint.

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    NOR wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    NOR wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    confuse issues of game balance.

    bwah?

    It's very difficult to give two characters the exact same movesets just with a different set of stats, and have them both be equally balanced.

    Uhh... whole new movesets and different stats is harder to balance. More variables. Clones are a very good thing from a game balance, design, and content angle.

    My point is, the original character's attacks and specials can be designed with that character's stats in mind. Supposing that the original is perfectly balanced, the clone is more likely to be unbalanced because it uses all the same moves that were created for the original, but it has to have substantially different stats to justify being a separate character.

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    NORNOR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I just... never mind.

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    Flippy_DFlippy_D Digital Conquistador LondonRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    If it helps, I can see both your points of view!


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    spookymuffinspookymuffin ( ° ʖ ° ) Puyallup WA Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Jimothy wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    I'm bored, so I'll update the list.

    1.Smash Brothers
    2.
    3. StarFox
    4. Kirby
    5.
    6. Metroid
    7.
    8.Pokemon
    9.Zelda
    10. Mario
    11.Yoshi
    12.
    13.
    14.
    15.
    16. Wario
    17.
    18. Kid Icarus

    The only addition is Wario as number 16.

    Thanks, I'll add this right away.

    Nintendogs was in the first trailer.

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    KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Jimothy wrote: »
    Peewi wrote: »
    I'm bored, so I'll update the list.

    1.Smash Brothers
    2.
    3. StarFox
    4. Kirby
    5.
    6. Metroid
    7.
    8.Pokemon
    9.Zelda
    10. Mario
    11.Yoshi
    12.
    13.
    14.
    15.
    16. Wario
    17.
    18. Kid Icarus

    The only addition is Wario as number 16.

    Thanks, I'll add this right away.

    Nintendogs was in the first trailer.


    Thats probably an Item, and therefore falls under the "smash bros." section.

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Of course Nintendogs is an item. :)

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