OH NOEZ 3 RINGS O' DEATH!!! What about disc read error?

localhjay

I've had my 360 since Novemeber, and I have not once had a problem.
Mine does not overheat, I have never broken a headset, and the only time it scrathed a disc was when it fell over while playing (My dumbass brothers fault).
So, yes, the problems with the 360 are very real.
But so were the problems with the PS2.
I mean, Disc Read Error? Gave me some tough times.
I remember asking the guy at Blocbuster if I could see the games first so I would know if it had a blue-bottomed disc (Those were the troubled ones).
And I must've gone through 4 PS2's, 3 of them blocky guys.
So why is MS getting so much shit for the 360?
The slim PS2, which fixed most of the problems was released in '04, 4 yars after it's launch.
So why does everyone dump on MS for taking so long with fixing it's problems when it's only been out for less than 2 years?

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Pooch

I remember the PS2 getting quite a lot of shit for the DREs before somebody came up with an at home solution to fix them.

localhjay

Pooch wrote: »

I remember the PS2 getting quite a lot of shit for the DREs before somebody came up with an at home solution to fix them.

Guess I never heard of those remedys, but I don't recall as many angry fanboy rants about the DREs.

Couscous

Pooch wrote: »

I remember the PS2 getting quite a lot of shit for the DREs before somebody came up with an at home solution to fix them.

There was also that lawsuit.

mrgilmorean

The PS2 problems seem far less prevalent than the 360's issues. I don't remember reading news stories about people who repair consoles giving up on repairing PS2s because the problems would recur. I will concede that as far as I can tell, that particular story has only been on the internet so its accuracy is still up for debate. However, there really is so much anecdotal evidence (IMO) that there has to be something seriously up with the 360.

I did get disc read errors with my PS2 but resetting usually solved the problem. The 360 is actually the first time I have heard about a piece of electornic equipment overheating so badly that it destroys itself running as it was intended to.

localhjay

mrgilmorean wrote: »

The PS2 problems seem far less prevalent than the 360's issues. I don't remember reading news stories about people who repair consoles giving up on repairing PS2s because the problems would recur. I will concede that as far as I can tell, that particular story has only been on the internet so its accuracy is still up for debate. However, there really is so much anecdotal evidence (IMO) that there has to be something seriously up with the 360.

I did get disc read errors with my PS2 but resetting usually solved the problem. The 360 is actually the first time I have heard about a piece of electornic equipment overheating so badly that it destroys itself running as it was intended to.

I suppose for each case there is extremes, like mine.
My first 2 PS2's refused to read any games, at all, no matter how often I reset them.
The third simply stopped working.
I've had no problems with my slim one though, which is great.

Darlan

Everyone I know who got a 360 (seven guys) has sent it in at least once, whereas I only knew two guys of a lot more who had PS2 DREs. Completely anecdotal, I know, but it sure seems that if there are lot more people complaining about 360 problems, it may be because there are more of them instead of a bigger stigma against the 360.

localhjay

Darlan wrote: »

Everyone I know who got a 360 (seven guys) has sent it in at least once, whereas I only knew two guys of a lot more who had PS2 DREs. Completely anecdotal, I know, but it sure seems that if there are lot more people complaining about 360 problems, it may be because there are more of them instead of a bigger stigma against the 360.

That is very possible.

Zephyr

my ps2 is near launch release and still works fine.

i think the reason a lot of ps2s got the error was because of excessive DVD watching use which burnt out the laser or something.

localhjay

Zephyr wrote: »

my ps2 is near launch release and still works fine.

i think the reason a lot of ps2s got the error was because of excessive DVD watching use which burnt out the laser or something.

I doubt it, we rarely used the PS2 as a DVD player, we had one.

Vashin

my 360 ive had since launch and not once has it ever had any problems *knocks on wood*

of course mine was a core when i first got it (only ones they had) maybe that has had something to do with it.. though its got a hard drive now so maybe not.

Raiden333

I still use my launch-date PS2, and it works, but every 3 months like clockwork I have I crack it open and give its lense the ol' Q-tip and alcohol treatment because it'll stop reading discs alltogether. Works like a charm.

Daedalus

I didn't buy a PS2 until they made them not suck.

I'll probably do the same for the 360.

The only hardware I feel comfortable buying at launch is Nintendo's.

PAX_Virgin2007

First of all consoles have problems and the Xbox is getting way too much shit for this. Bought 4 and sold 2 and i keep in touch with the 2 buyers and they have no complaints and if they do get the red light they have to send it back to me so i can use the reciept to return. Not a return yet and neither of mine have been faulty. However, if you do get the lights, there are many ways to fix it and prevent it. You can prevent it by leaving the box on whether you are playing or not for about 12 hours a day ( just for a week or so)(actully every now and then, not every day). And if you do get the ring of light, just wrap it in towels and let it get hot, turn it of, and play. When you finish playing just exit to dasboard and leave the box on. The rings of light are caused by the welding on the chip and so the heat causes it to melt.

So i can assume that since i play constantly, 8 hours a night, i have had no problems.

XBOX LIVE > SEX WITH UR HAND

PeekingDuck

My PS1, PS2, and Dreamcast all crapped out on me in one way or another. Obviously, I think the 360 failure rates are higher than each of those systems... but I also believe the problem is magnified because everybody is so polarized right now. That and I think a lot of these internet forums are more prevalent than they used to be - and kids are mind numbingly stupid these days. I fear for the future after reading the xbox forums. And youtube comments... good god. Someone hold me.

Waka Laka

Microsoft is getting shit for the 360 because well...

Playstation 3 is out and what better way for Sony gamers to say "Buy a PS3 no worries here" than ripping on 360 failure rates, its not like Sony hardware have ever had any faults.

Nothing like covering up the failures of the past by focusing on the competitions' failure rate.

variant

PAX_Virgin2007 wrote: »

First of all consoles have problems and the Xbox is getting way too much shit for this. Bought 4 and sold 2 and i keep in touch with the 2 buyers and they have no complaints and if they do get the red light they have to send it back to me so i can use the reciept to return. Not a return yet and neither of mine have been faulty. However, if you do get the lights, there are many ways to fix it and prevent it. You can prevent it by leaving the box on whether you are playing or not for about 12 hours a day ( just for a week or so)(actully every now and then, not every day). And if you do get the ring of light, just wrap it in towels and let it get hot, turn it of, and play. When you finish playing just exit to dasboard and leave the box on. The rings of light are caused by the welding on the chip and so the heat causes it to melt.

So i can assume that since i play constantly, 8 hours a night, i have had no problems.

XBOX LIVE > SEX WITH UR HAND

This is bad advice.

BigDes

I'm lucky my 360 didn't overhetat or anything.


It just got stolen.

mrgilmorean

Waka Laka wrote: »

Microsoft is getting shit for the 360 because well...

Playstation 3 is out and what better way for Sony gamers to say "Buy a PS3 no worries here" than ripping on 360 failure rates, its not like Sony hardware have ever had any faults.

Nothing like covering up the failures of the past by focusing on the competitions' failure rate.

No one is denying that Sony's past consoles have had any problems. There are some people who are saying that it might be cheaper just to get a PS3 because of the number of repairs you might have to get if your 360 goes down. The large majority of 360s are probably going to not face any problems but there appears to be a significant minority of 360s that are overheating.

I believe we are discussing a valid problem here. Granted, I can't reference hard statistics because there are none at this point. However, this is a $400 piece of equipment and should not be crapping out on you so often that you are sending it back for the third or fourth time two years after launch. If the PS3 starts showing these issues do you really think anyone is not going to jump over Sony for releasing a $500-600 machine that has a pretty good chance of breaking down on you?

There was a 40+ page thread that I can't seem to find about 360s breaking down and it wasn't filled with 'lol M$ amirite' Sony fanboys. It was 360 owners who were bringing up the issue and it is 360 owners who continue to do so because they have a right to have a reliable console.

Waka Laka

mrgilmorean wrote: »

Waka Laka wrote: »

Microsoft is getting shit for the 360 because well...

Playstation 3 is out and what better way for Sony gamers to say "Buy a PS3 no worries here" than ripping on 360 failure rates, its not like Sony hardware have ever had any faults.

Nothing like covering up the failures of the past by focusing on the competitions' failure rate.

No one is denying that Sony's past consoles have had any problems. There are some people who are saying that it might be cheaper just to get a PS3 because of the number of repairs you might have to get if your 360 goes down. The large majority of 360s are probably going to not face any problems but there appears to be a significant minority of 360s that are overheating.

I believe we are discussing a valid problem here. Granted, I can't reference hard statistics because there are none at this point. However, this is a $400 piece of equipment and should not be crapping out on you so often that you are sending it back for the third or fourth time two years after launch. If the PS3 starts showing these issues do you really think anyone is not going to jump over Sony for releasing a $500-600 machine that has a pretty good chance of breaking down on you?

There was a 40+ page thread that I can't seem to find about 360s breaking down and it wasn't filled with 'lol M$ amirite' Sony fanboys. It was 360 owners who were bringing up the issue and it is 360 owners who continue to do so because they have a right to have a reliable console.

Yeah, I was more pointing at the Fanboys who only flame on the matter, but never actually own one in the first place