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[LTTP]: San Andreas

KarnKarn Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Games and Technology
So last week I finally got around to buying SA for the PC. This is easily my favorite GTA game so far, far surpassing Vice City. The size of the game area is incredible and I've had a lot of fun dicking around with a 100% save file I got.

However, I am currently playing the game, without cheats, and I have hit my first snag. The damned DDR lowrider mission. Is this mission going to be necessary for me to pass or what? Is there a trick or easy way to get around it?

Additionally, are there any save files or methods of cheating that open up the stores and whole map, without having all the other perks of having completed the game? I usually use the 100% save I have just to cause mayhem, but being infinitely rich, and having maxed out stats is kind of lame in a way.

Anyway, I am pretty sure I am going to face much more annoying missions in the future. What missions in the game were your least favorites? Any little special tips and tricks you'd like to give me that I might not know?

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    Mr PeepersMr Peepers Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The DDR sequence is incredibly easy once you get the beat right, and it is necessary to advance.

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    FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Karn wrote: »
    So last week I finally got around to buying SA for the PC. This is easily my favorite GTA game so far, far surpassing Vice City. The size of the game area is incredible and I've had a lot of fun dicking around with a 100% save file I got.

    However, I am currently playing the game, without cheats, and I have hit my first snag. The damned DDR lowrider mission. Is this mission going to be necessary for me to pass or what? Is there a trick or easy way to get around it?

    Additionally, are there any save files or methods of cheating that open up the stores and whole map, without having all the other perks of having completed the game? I usually use the 100% save I have just to cause mayhem, but being infinitely rich, and having maxed out stats is kind of lame in a way.

    Anyway, I am pretty sure I am going to face much more annoying missions in the future. What missions in the game were your least favorites? Any little special tips and tricks you'd like to give me that I might not know?

    DDR missions are easy...just practice. The FLIGHT missions...oy. I found they were easier on the PS2 and tough as hell on the PC, and the exact reverse for the damned RC plane missions.

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    RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    To me, the worst mission was controlling the RC plane, but the rest of the game is not way too challenging, the more difficult things I had to put up with were just a matter of being patient and/or careful, a la paramedic/pimping missions where I drive recklessly and the car gets blown up and I have to restart.

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    Invoice NinjaInvoice Ninja Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I love this game so much for one main reason:

    You can always sit down and pop in San Andreas, and even though you've already gotten 100% on the game, you can still have loads of fun for hours. For me it's all about playing the "ridiculous dates" game. Chick calls and wants to go out? Time to put on my bowling shirt, khakis, and spiked motorcycle helmet and fly my harrier jet over, land it in front of her house, and then spend the date blowing up people's cars and then rocketing straight up into the air and ejecting without her. Good times. Good times. :lol:

    Showing up in boxers on a quad makes for the perfect "redneck date" too, btw ;)

    And CJ's right - Millie Perkins is the perfect woman :winky:

    Game tips though? Well, it wasn't exactly the hardest game, but I was always a fan of collecting all the various items to get a house full of powerups way too early in the game. Then missions that are all like "find this guy driving around town and blow him up" magically involve rocket launchers ;)

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    Invoice NinjaInvoice Ninja Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    And yes, the hardest part of the entire game is the retarded R/C plane mission that everyone's been traumatized by. If I remember correctly, one of the dorks on Gamefaqs wrote a decent guide on how to actually make it through that hell without running out of fuel.

    And basically, there's a lot of ways you can go about each mission. Like that stupid "you and Catalina have to hijack the truck" mission - just go around the corner, find where the people who will chase you are already parked, and give them all four flat-tires before hopping in the truck. (Or maybe I grenaded them? I can't remember). Anyway, a once challenging mission can become a cakewalk after being all cheesy like that.

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    BlakoutBlakout Lordran's SpookylandRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm on like the next to last mission, but I never beat it. It's not that I couldn't, I just quit playing for some reason. I suppose I should finish it sometime.

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    apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    The last few missions of the game were not its strongest moment...

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    chasmchasm Ill-tempered Texan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Still one of my favorite games, and it gives me high hopes for GTA IV.

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    Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I believe the patch for the PC version made the DDR Lowrider part a little bit better, but patching means you can't use your first saves.

    I remember that some french or european guy did a total facelift of about 90% of the textures in the game and made them much sharper and grittier. I can't seem to find that pack anymore, it made the game look less like a comic book and more like a city.

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    KarnKarn Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Oh God so I am tried to do Ryder's rob uncle sam mission and the bum keeps dying during the hummer chase. D:

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    FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    apotheos wrote: »
    The last few missions of the game were not its strongest moment...

    Goddamn, the end portions of the game made me hate CJ's brother.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I rented Total Overdose for the XBOX and while the gunplay is lots of fun, I'm finding it really hard to put up with the relatively tiny levels. Every sandbox game from now on needs to have a world as large as San Andreas'. I have high hopes for Mercenaries 2 and GTA4 to scratch this itch.

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    FirstComradeStalinFirstComradeStalin Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Getting the Harrier was one of my greatest moments in gaming.

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    yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    God damn I suck at this game.

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    ForgottenVariableForgottenVariable Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    I believe the patch for the PC version made the DDR Lowrider part a little bit better, but patching means you can't use your first saves.

    I remember that some french or european guy did a total facelift of about 90% of the textures in the game and made them much sharper and grittier. I can't seem to find that pack anymore, it made the game look less like a comic book and more like a city.

    Is this it?

    http://www.gtanetwork.fr/SRT3/

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    BallmanBallman Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Sorta midway through the game spoiler:
    When you have to chase down Tenpenny's retarded sidekick, the first thing I did was whip out my sniper rifle and take out his two driver's side tires before getting in my vehicle. He lost control on the first curve and flew off in crazy circles toward the desert, leaving me to pick him off at my leisure.

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    Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Part of me wants to get this just to play Multi Theft Auto, although it seems nobody even plays Multi Theft Auto... My urge for an Online run and gun motherfucking game like GTA can never be quenched...

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    Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Waka Laka wrote: »
    I believe the patch for the PC version made the DDR Lowrider part a little bit better, but patching means you can't use your first saves.

    I remember that some french or european guy did a total facelift of about 90% of the textures in the game and made them much sharper and grittier. I can't seem to find that pack anymore, it made the game look less like a comic book and more like a city.

    Is this it?

    http://www.gtanetwork.fr/SRT3/

    Thats the one man. Thank you very much.

    I reccomend this texture pack to anyone, its just fantastic.

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    cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Catalina is cree-py.

    This was the first GTA I ever finished(second I ever played), and the ending was just... meh.
    Don't these games offer resolution?

    The story got me at first, then it just went downhill from the Yakuza segments.

    I loved the characters, though.

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    iowaiowa Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    god damn I had to stop playing this because the learn to fly missions are just too hard. And you can't even progress without doing them, it seems. I went to gamefaqs which only informed me that the flying missions were going to get harder when I couldn't even complete the first one D:

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I got stuck in the first city and never could find the mission to move on to the badlands.

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    yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Aaand I'm stuck on a mission again.

    Third city spoiler:
    Spoiler for one of the 'robbing' missions from Woozie.
    I have to follow this woman, get a gimp suit, then stop this other gimp from getting to her house to gimp it the gimp up. But the gimping mothergimper never actually shows up, he just gimping apparently shows the gimp up and gimping makes me lose this gimpdamned mission! What the gimp is the gimpy solution?

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    chasmchasm Ill-tempered Texan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    yalborap wrote: »
    Aaand I'm stuck on a mission again.

    Third city spoiler:
    Spoiler for one of the 'robbing' missions from Woozie.
    I have to follow this woman, get a gimp suit, then stop this other gimp from getting to her house to gimp it the gimp up. But the gimping mothergimper never actually shows up, he just gimping apparently shows the gimp up and gimping makes me lose this gimpdamned mission! What the gimp is the gimpy solution?
    Wait around a bit. He'll come from the right as you're facing her house and he'll be walking slowly.

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    FightTestFightTest Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I got bored at some point while playing SA. I think before the last city area. (edit.. nm, I think I remember what it was now.. I think I quit in the San Fran type city. Either some race or maybe flying remote planes just burned me out. don't remember, been a while..)

    It just got too long and tedious and boring. I liked Vice City a lot more. Played both on PC if it makes a difference.

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    RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Part of me wants to get this just to play Multi Theft Auto, although it seems nobody even plays Multi Theft Auto... My urge for an Online run and gun motherfucking game like GTA can never be quenched...

    I hear the new Mercenaries will have online co-op...

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    FreddyDFreddyD Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    FightTest wrote: »
    I got bored at some point while playing SA. I think before the last city area. (edit.. nm, I think I remember what it was now.. I think I quit in the San Fran type city. Either some race or maybe flying remote planes just burned me out. don't remember, been a while..)

    It just got too long and tedious and boring. I liked Vice City a lot more. Played both on PC if it makes a difference.
    I feel the same way. The city was huge but it felt too barren and lifeless. You never got a chance to get familiar with an area before you were forced to move on. And the missions felt forced and perfunctory.

    The gang wars portion was the highlight of the game, and I hope they base the multiplayer mode off of it.

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    Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Renzo wrote: »
    Part of me wants to get this just to play Multi Theft Auto, although it seems nobody even plays Multi Theft Auto... My urge for an Online run and gun motherfucking game like GTA can never be quenched...

    I hear the new Mercenaries will have online co-op...

    No-no! I need like "join a huge gang, then run around in other gang's area shooting shit up!" kind of action

    There was this one spot in GTA3 that really inspired me to want to play such a game... If any of you have beaten GTA3, go here and just shoot around with the AK47 or shotgun as this area gets nuts. Right in the red zone, Yakuza march around who are your allies, Cartel spawn with crazy ass weapons, and from time to time, the Yardies will come down and cause shit too. Now factor in cops, traffic, and shit blowing up everywhere, constantly... That is what I want... from dodging crazy ambulances to having shootouts in between major traffic jams and cops going apeshit and shooting everyone up. My mouth waters for such a game....

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    These games have the uncanny ability to pull, from random, the perfect song out of the soundtrack for whatever situation you might be encountering. Two such moments come to mind:

    Vice City: Not much, but the first time stepping into the Hunter Apache, the radio kicks in with Megadeath, Peace sells (but who's buying). Just the perfect opening to coincide with the rotor's slowly kicking up.

    San Andreas: This is the one that will always stand out. The Catalina missions. Can't remember exactly what it was, but it basically ended with a police chase through the country. So we're driving a pickup truck. We're driving in the middle of hick country bumpkin land with the county police on our heels. And Catalina is being her psycho-bitch self throughout the chase. The song playing throughout this?
    Hey, Louisiana woman, Mississippi man
    We get together every time we can
    The Mississippi River can't keep us apart
    There's too much love in the Mississippi heart
    Too much love in this Louisiana heart.

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    FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    These games have the uncanny ability to pull, from random, the perfect song out of the soundtrack for whatever situation you might be encountering. Two such moments come to mind:

    Vice City: Not much, but the first time stepping into the Hunter Apache, the radio kicks in with Megadeath, Peace sells (but who's buying). Just the perfect opening to coincide with the rotor's slowly kicking up.

    San Andreas: This is the one that will always stand out. The Catalina missions. Can't remember exactly what it was, but it basically ended with a police chase through the country. So we're driving a pickup truck. We're driving in the middle of hick country bumpkin land with the county police on our heels. And Catalina is being her psycho-bitch self throughout the chase. The song playing throughout this?
    Hey, Louisiana woman, Mississippi man
    We get together every time we can
    The Mississippi River can't keep us apart
    There's too much love in the Mississippi heart
    Too much love in this Louisiana heart.

    That's hilarious, re: Catalina. My song that cropped up during that EXACT same one? Tom Petty's Running Down a Dream.

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    LaCabraLaCabra MelbourneRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SA got boring for me too, but I finished it. It was a lot more fun while I had something to work towards, but afterwards, holy fuck, it's really not fun for very long at all. CJ pisses me right off, with his "OH MOTHERFUCKER YOUR CAR NEARLY HIT MINE MOTHERFUCKER" or "OH MOTHERFUCKER YOU HIT MY CAR MOTHERFUCKER" or "MOTHERFUCKER"

    fuck that motherfucker

    edit: and yes, the ending sucked. Vice City and 3 both ended better.

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    Waka LakaWaka Laka Riding the stuffed Unicorn If ya know what I mean.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    What was so hard about the RC plane missions? I did it first time I tried, I've never had problems with it.

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    LaCabraLaCabra MelbourneRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yeah, I remember them being a shitty lot of missions but not especially hard. That and they were optional.

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    HappylilElfHappylilElf Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    No matter what I did I just couldn't get into this game. I mean I'd walk out of my house with the knife drawn and there'd be gang bangers just walking around and even though they were in my gang? I'd always end up just end up thinking to myself "hmmm, they have throats". I don't understand how I didn't just open the front door to a hail of gunfire from my own gang. Then again buying a game that revolves around inner city gang culture, when you despise inner city gang culture, probably wasn't the smartest thing I've ever done.

    Seriously though I got to the lowrider race mission and started having flashbacks to the street race from Vice City. The memories were bad enough that I was never able to beat the mission. Added to that the fact that the game seemed almost eager to present me with oblivious victims for the throat slice from behind animation? I never even had a chance :P

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    LaCabraLaCabra MelbourneRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    but the lowrider mission was so easy

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    yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    FireWeasel wrote: »
    These games have the uncanny ability to pull, from random, the perfect song out of the soundtrack for whatever situation you might be encountering. Two such moments come to mind:

    Vice City: Not much, but the first time stepping into the Hunter Apache, the radio kicks in with Megadeath, Peace sells (but who's buying). Just the perfect opening to coincide with the rotor's slowly kicking up.

    San Andreas: This is the one that will always stand out. The Catalina missions. Can't remember exactly what it was, but it basically ended with a police chase through the country. So we're driving a pickup truck. We're driving in the middle of hick country bumpkin land with the county police on our heels. And Catalina is being her psycho-bitch self throughout the chase. The song playing throughout this?
    Hey, Louisiana woman, Mississippi man
    We get together every time we can
    The Mississippi River can't keep us apart
    There's too much love in the Mississippi heart
    Too much love in this Louisiana heart.

    That's hilarious, re: Catalina. My song that cropped up during that EXACT same one? Tom Petty's Running Down a Dream.

    I just had my own moment, though it wasn't the perfect song or anything.
    One of the desert missions. Had to get on the jet on the motorbike. So I'm barrelling down this air strip, dodging barrels like I'm goddamned Mario or something. Want to know the song?
    Guns N' Roses-Welcome to the Jungle.
    It wasn't much of an 'oh my god perfect fit' moment, but good lord, it just felt SO. DAMN. AWESOME.

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    cr0wcr0w Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    I spent 6 hours one day looking for motherfucking Bigfoot in the wooded areas outside the city. This was before it was confirmed by the devs he wasn't in there. Saw a lot of random shit out there, namely the "ghost cars" and heard lots of random noises, but man I had fun cruising around on a dirtbike just looking for that furry fucker.

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    Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Then again buying a game that revolves around inner city gang culture, when you despise inner city gang culture, probably wasn't the smartest thing I've ever done.

    For me the key was that I was free to dress CJ up in a way that was totally out of line for inner city gang culture and that the latter stops cropping up after the first city, except for CJ's brother towards the end but everyone hates that idiot. In my case I went with an afro and clothing that looked like 70's era stuff so CJ looked like he had stepped out of a Shaft movie instead of Boys in the Hood. As clothing choices got fancier, he eventually looked more like Jules from Pulp Fiction.

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Does anyone have an audio clip of Of Loc's radio interview? "Do you have to be able to dance when you're a rapper? I can pop a windmill." "BUSTA BITCH-ASS FOO'!"

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    SilkyNumNutsSilkyNumNuts Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    About the song stuff.

    Yeah, it was even scarier when it did that for every major mission on the PC... when I was using custom soundtracks.

    Too many awesome songs to say.

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    SamSam Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Anyone want to play some PC multiplayer? It's really fun with enough people.
    Hit me up if anyone's interested, or better yet, start a game on thread if you want. I can't :|

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