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Do you think you're grown up?

electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
This is an idea I thought I'd take from The Cat's post in the transhumanism thread.

Basically the question is, do you feel like an adult?

A lot of people I know would probably say that generally, no they don't. To a very large degree I would say during the day I don't, but I would attribute that to my quasi-trustfund kiddie nature (wherein I haven't needed to work to put myself through university etc.) However, to an extent I think it's contextual. When I'm around teenagers/children I tend to feel slightly more responsible then I remember. When stuff like medical situations precipitates, there's the sudden feeling that I should do something - which thus far I've been pleased with since I've acted in the way I wanted to in those situations.

So I pose the question to D&D - do you feel like an adult at your age? And what sort of situations make you feel like this?

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  • BobCescaBobCesca Is a girl Birmingham, UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I've been forty since I was about seventeen...But I think it's in the last couple of years I've really felt like I'm a 'grown-up', paying the bills, living with the boy, graduating, getting the kittens, and all that stuff.

    Edit: I'm 25

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yes and no. I'm twenty this year, so it's kind of an in between thing where you can be with kids or adults and blend into either group on command? Responsibility wise, I don't feel like an adult at all.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    More than when I lived at home, that's for damn sure. I think in large part the 'adult' thing is feeling like you have more control over the course of your life.

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  • AftyAfty Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Im 23 and am in the process of buying a house and im working stupid overtime (read 1 day off in 6 weeks...) The paper work and exhaustion make me feel like an Adult.

    But i yearn to just sit around and play games, or write. Which makes me and my girlfriend think of me as a child :)


    Edit* That last line sounds a bit weird when i read it back

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  • GorakGorak Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm mature enough to be comfortable with my childishness. Or to put it more eloquently...
    When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

    edit: I'll hit 30 later this year.

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  • forbis316forbis316 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I think by every definition I am an adult. I receive no financial support from anyone else, I rent my apartment, I am no longer in school, etc.

    I don't really feel like one though.

    edit: Just turned 26.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Definitely not. There are things I can do all on my own, and I do have a certain amount of independence, however I don't feel like I am an adult.
    The funny thing is, people walk into my bedroom and see everything a "kid" would usually have, scattered everywhere; comics, figures, video games, gadgets. I'm always told I should grow up or start saving up money for a house/car, which is completely unrealistic. I'm a student and I only work a few days a week.
    I have to be honest though, I look around my room, and I'm completely happy with the way I am at the moment. I don't think there's anything wrong with being Peter Pan.

    edit - I'm 20, if that matters for some reason.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm 20 as well. I'll stick with the quote from Lewis.

    No idea how you define "adult", though. I know people in their fifties who act more childish than my little nephew and I know kids half my age who act more mature than me.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    Being an adult has no connection to liking fun things or not though. You can be an adult and still into comics and games and whatever, its more... I dunno, realising that there's more to life than just that stuff, and that its a dumb idea to spend alll your time and money on hobbies.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    Being an adult has no connection to liking fun things or not though. You can be an adult and still into comics and games and whatever, its more... I dunno, realising that there's more to life than just that stuff, and that its a dumb idea to spend alll your time and money on hobbies.
    Then I've always been mature.

    I dunno, there should be something in that definition about responsibilities and level-headedness.

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  • SymmetrySymmetry Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    It's probably naïve to think that there's some clear signpost indicative of adulthood. Since, in my opinion, adulthood is more of a social construction than any kind of biological determination, it seems to be more an external state than an internal state. In other words, it has to do only secondarily with "who we are as persons" and is primarily about the kinds of problems which we face, the kinds of relationships which we form, and the roles which we create for ourselves in society.

    On this basis, I don't feel that I'm an adult.

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  • itylusitylus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    In some ways, not in others. I have a responsible job, money, people who need me for stuff, that kind of thing. But some problems that feel like they ough to belong to childhood seem to go on the same old way as ever. I do things I don't want to do out of an overdeveloped sense of guilt or responsibility, and then resent the other people involved and then think, shit, I've been doing this stuff since I was a kid, isn't it time to grow out of it? I guess some things you don't just "grow out of", though.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yeah, sure, I'm an adult. An emotionally stunted and unstable adult, but an adult. I don't expect those things to change all that much. I've always been that way, so barring something unexpected, I don't expect too much of a drastic change.

    Ok, so, I'm living at my parent's house, cause she's out of the country and rent is rather expensive. While I don't really make too much, that ought to be changing quite soon. Like, I'm pretty damn competent at my work, and haven't be flipping out much at all, at work. So yeah.

    getting out a fair bit more and recently have gotten a fair amount of my shit together. I smoke too much and watch an awful lot of cartoons, but it is not like I watch all that much normal tv. Other than some select sporting events, and maybe 2 hours of prime time a week, I don't watch much. So that's probably not that bad. It's not like I even spend much money on anime either, and I'll be paying for broadband as long as I can afford it.

    I look around at people, and honestly, I don't seem that far from the norm. Ok, I do live in florida.

    The bar is pretty low.

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  • CrossfireCrossfire __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Personally, I think Cat is pretty ridiculous

    The Cat wrote: »
    Crossfire wrote: »
    The Cat wrote: »
    Most people in my economic class can't actually afford to move out until their early twenties,

    :|

    Did you mean, early thirties?

    I mean, early twenties is a pretty good time to move out.

    When the hell do you expect people to move out?

    hmmm, missed this. 18ish. You're an adult at that age whether you feel like it or not, time to steel up and look after yourself. Too many people are still basically overgrown kids at 25 these days, its bloody ridiculous. And then they hit 30 and don't know what the hell happened. Their entire lives consist of fucking around and deep confusion, and its bad for them. These aren't happy people, they have nothing much to live for. Part of it is adults unwilling to cut the apron strings, part is the sheer difficulty of making that break without falling into outright poverty.

    This is only going to get more pronounced at time goes on. As people live longer the adult ages will change. Teenagers used to be considered maturing adults. I have never seen a teenager that I would even consider to be a maturing adult. VERY premature. The twenties will eventually become the new teens and the thirties will be the new twenties.

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I blame Mr. Rodger and the Mommie State.

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  • AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Crossfire wrote: »
    Personally, I think Cat is pretty ridiculous




    This is only going to get more pronounced at time goes on. As people live longer the adult ages will change. Teenagers used to be considered maturing adults. I have never seen a teenager that I would even consider to be a maturing adult. VERY premature. The twenties will eventually become the new teens and the thirties will be the new twenties.
    I agree and I want to give two examples, a nerdy one and a normal one;

    nerdy: Hobbits!

    Hobbits are adults when they turn 34, because they usually live for 100 years.

    normal: Medieval centuries!

    There's a reason people got married around their 15th birthday, they were lucky if they survived till 30.

    18 is an arbitrary line.

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  • CrossfireCrossfire __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    redx wrote: »
    I blame Mr. Rodger and the Mommie State.

    Yea? And I blame the baby boomers.

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  • HachfaceHachface Not the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking of Dammit, Shepard!Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Crossfire wrote: »
    redx wrote: »
    I blame Mr. Rodger and the Mommie State.

    Yea? And I blame the baby boomers.

    I blame modern medicine.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I blame insane housing prices

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  • krapst78krapst78 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I don't really feel like I'm grown up because I don't currently have a serious relationship nor do I plan on committing myself to one anytime soon. I've been financially independent since graduating college, taking care of all my rent, bills, insurance, student loans, etc... but the fact that I cannot emotionally commit to all the responsibilities that come with a serious long term relationship make me feel like I'm back in high school. The thought of marriage, kids, and raising a family scares the hell out of me. I'm a fairly risk averse person as it is, but if I have to seriously consider the well-being and livelihood of other people into my decisions all the time, I think my head would explode. Tell me to make a decision that may end up gaining or losing a our company several thousands of customers this week, and I can usually do that without breaking a sweat. However, tell me that I need to meet the in-laws this weekend, drop the kids off at school, and plan the family summer vacation trip, I'm likely to flip out and refuse to leave my room for the next 10 years.

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  • Mr. PokeylopeMr. Pokeylope Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Crossfire wrote:
    This is only going to get more pronounced at time goes on. As people live longer the adult ages will change. Teenagers used to be considered maturing adults. I have never seen a teenager that I would even consider to be a maturing adult. VERY premature. The twenties will eventually become the new teens and the thirties will be the new twenties.

    This has nothing to do with a natural progression or longer life, young people are just coddled longer by their parents. There hasn't been a biological change now days, teenagers and increasingly people in their 20's don't have to take responsiblity for themselves and someone else fixes their mistakes. So they are immature and irresponsible.

    It's as simple as that.

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  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I've been quite mature for quite a long time, at least for certain things. I'm one of the few people I know who upon moving out has had no problems with money, despite paying for university, rent and all the other stuff on my own. I'm quite frugal, and I don't succumb to the urge to just buy booze or weed or go out to bars.

    But, I am quite immature when it comes to relationships, as I haven't had a real one yet. So, up some, down some.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I am sure as hell not an adult, and I'm 22.

    I am moving out of the house at the end of the month because I finished my degree and I have the money to do so, but I'll have to shape up to become "adult." I still leave my dishes in the sink overnight and let my laundry pile up when I'm lazy, I still haven't learned to drive, and I still don't organize myself at all because others have always done it for me.

    It's true that the age of adulthood in the western world really isn't 18 anymore. 18 is the point where you start to consider taking responsibility for yourself. Most people are "adults" by 24 or 25 from my experience, although sometimes it does take longer.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Living in Bergen County NJ, it is literally impossible to move out right out of college if you took any sort of student loans to get through a private university and don't have a sweet job lined up.

    Rent, depending on where, is between 1500 and 2000 a month in Manhattan, and easily as much in, say, Hoboken or the waterfront of Jersey City. In order to get decent rent prices, you have to find some shitty ass slum and hope you don't get shot. So at this point I'm saving up like mad so I can move out as soon as possible, but I still probably won't be able to, financially, until the end of this year, and I'm 23.

    Where you live determines when you can move out.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I no longer use the phrase "when I grow up...", so in that sense, I've grown up. That said, I have by no means established myself. I'm still in college with a few outstanding loans, and next Wednesday, I'm going to go to China to start learning Chinese. Beyond the simple better understanding of the world that comes with an education and age, I feel no different than I did when I started going to college.
    The Cat wrote: »
    its a dumb idea to spend all your time and money on hobbies.

    Why? I mean, I understand using "all" of one's resources is kind of dumb, but I assume you're using the word as a superlative. If it makes you happy and gives you some amount of fulfillment, what's the problem?

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  • redxredx I(x)=2(x)+1 whole numbersRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Leading an unexamined life isolated from society at large, is a bad?

    Just living for your own happiness and all that.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I no longer use the phrase "when I grow up...", so in that sense, I've grown up. That said, I have by no means established myself. I'm still in college with a few outstanding loans, and next Wednesday, I'm going to go to China to start learning Chinese. Beyond the simple better understanding of the world that comes with an education and age, I feel no different than I did when I started going to college.
    The Cat wrote: »
    its a dumb idea to spend all your time and money on hobbies.

    Why? I mean, I understand using "all" of one's resources is kind of dumb, but I assume you're using the word as a superlative. If it makes you happy and gives you some amount of fulfillment, what's the problem?

    I sort of agree. Obviously the standard requirements take precedence - rent, food, bills, savings, etc - but what you do with your spending money is your own choice. If someone wants to spend their extra money on video games because it makes them happy, then who are we to question that?

    Same deal with time. As long as hobbies don't interfere with the important matters in life, I think people can spend as much time as they want playing their games or building train sets or golfing. In fact, when you're not out with friends or at work, what else do you do? Hobbies are there to give you something fulfilling or entertaining when you're not doing anything else.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm 24 and my friends all say i'm a 7 year old girl.

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  • CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Depends on what an "adult" is supposed to feel like. I don't really know. I'm still getting established as an adult I suppose, but I'm a late bloomer.

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  • GorakGorak Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    _J_ wrote: »
    I'm 24 and my friends all say i'm a 7 year old girl.

    That's nothing to do with maturity, it's because of the pink dress and pigtails.

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  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Gorak wrote: »
    _J_ wrote: »
    I'm 24 and my friends all say i'm a 7 year old girl.

    That's nothing to do with maturity, it's because of the pink dress and pigtails.

    And probably because of the Harry Potter and Pokeyman.


    ...and the dress looks good on me.

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  • MikeRyuMikeRyu Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Corvus wrote: »
    Depends on what an "adult" is supposed to feel like. I don't really know. I'm still getting established as an adult I suppose, but I'm a late bloomer.

    I feel like this.

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  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Definitely not. I think the financial thing definitely has a bit to do with it because I'm 19 and still haven't had a real job or anything close to it - last summer I did some youth thing through the city where I did gardening work in the projects, and this summer I've gotten like two days of work through a temp agency as I frantically looked around for anything else. I'll probably end up using the college fund from my grandparents' for expense money this year, and tuition is being handled by both me and my parents taking out loans.

    Seriously I'd really like a job.

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  • Clutch414Clutch414 Dodge Swinger.... ...WHENEVER IT FEELS RIGHT!!!Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    "I don't know" is my answer to the question. I'm 29 (I'll be 30 next month), I'm married (no kids), have a decent job, and recently bought a house. You know what? I'm freaked out by it every time I think about it. It just feels so surreal to me. Let me get this straight, it's not that I can't handle the responsibilities of being an adult or don't like being an adult, but the fact that it feels like YESTERDAY I enjoyed the relative irresponsibility of my highschool/college years.

    My late-teens and 20's (pardon the cliche') flew by.

    Anyone else feel similar?

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I find that there's a rather annoying trend of my days feeling like eternities and my years feeling like minutes.

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  • MentalExerciseMentalExercise Indefenestrable Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Gorak wrote: »
    When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.

    The ultimate symbol of childishness, to me, is selfishness and self-centered-ness. They are two different things that must both be put away in order to be "grown up". I try to put them away every day, and I will continue to try in the future. I am an adult.

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  • Squirminator2kSquirminator2k they/them North Hollywood, CARegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yes.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I wish I could feel like an adult, but I doubt I ever will. Not because of financial reasons or anything of this nature: just the fact that I have a crippling phobia of driving, and asking for a ride instantly makes me feel twelve again.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I find that there's a rather annoying trend of my days feeling like eternities and my years feeling like minutes.

    Yup.

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  • FibretipFibretip Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    i'm 22, have a 5 year old step son, a 1month old baby, a wife, a house, a car etc... i feel mature as hell, but i don't feel like an adult...

    just goes to show that your life doesn't make you an adult... age always is unfortunately a factor!

    everyone around me treats me like an adult, my social scene is mostly 10 years older than me (work and my sons friends parents), most don't even know how old i am, and when asked think i'm at least twenty six or so.... but i know i'm young... and feel it most of the time.

    it's pretty damn frustrating sometimes.

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