Hammer & Sickle - Silent Storm 2(?)

BursarBursar Hee Noooo!PDX areaRegistered User regular
edited July 2007 in Games and Technology
I really enjoyed playing Silent Storm when it came out, and when a "sequel" using the same engine was announced I was happy. Then the game just faded away into obscurity, and I forgot all about it until I saw Hammer & Sickle on the shelf at Fry's for $10.

So, is this a sequel to Silent Storm? Kinda. Not really. The game relies heavily on the Silent Storm engine, and combat is very much the same, and the character leveling system is the same. There's some obvious asset reuse: some character models and voices are the same (including a white guy named Andrew who uses Nessie's voice clips, even the ones where he calls himself Nessie). There are some improvements, though. Instead of having to scour a level after killing all the bad guys, just click the "Loot" button to access a menu with everything lying on the ground in the entire map, ready for you to pick and choose and stuff your backpacks with. Characters will complain about being pack mules: "Oh yes, stick an anvil in there too, and I'll topple over and we'll all have a good laugh." There's a weight system in place, in which the amount of stuff a character carries determines how much AP they get every turn. Apparently it's much more about being a spy than being a commando, which is why you need cash, a place to stay, some black-market contacts, and a bunch of goons willing to give their all to wrest Germany back into the Motherland's red embrace. Fortunately, "spy" can also mean "saboteur," and so you'll have plenty of opportunities to shoot new and interesting people.

Wait, why isn't this Silent Storm 2? It doesn't have anything to do with the plot, I think; I haven't gotten that far yet. Well, aside from "WWII is now over" being sequel-fodder. You play as a Soviet spy who sneaks into West Germany in 1949 to perform various nefarious activities. Anyway, so far there's less squad combat, and I'm hopelessly outnumbered all the time. Your main character is much more of a character than in SS. You'll have dialogue options and decisions to make besides who to shoot next. Besides him, I only have one other party member - a former Hitler Youth named Larry who calls me "Mein Fuher" and is a damn decent rifleman, despite his engineer class.

There's still shit blowing up, right? Sure. Grenades o'plenty. In fact, the very first real mission almost requires some high explosives - you start out
Sneaking into West Germany to contact a possible conspirator, only to turn the corner about ten feet behind five guys who just dragged him up against a wall and shot him. Better hope you throw well.
Walls crumble, windows shatter, and physics damage is really purty.

Okay. You've convinced me. Why does everyone look wierd? There's this odd seam that goes around people's jawlines. As near as I can figure, it's because everyone's head is a seperate model, which allows their cranium to blow up if you kill them with a headshot, and their now-headless corpse slumps over (or flies, depending on how hard you hit them) making an appreciable mess all over the place.

Nice. Got any tips? Nope. Like I said, I'm not that far. The reason for this is that the game is ball-bustingly difficult. My two pistol-packing guys against 8 people with Lewis Mk IIs, who all get interrupts when I fire one shot at them? Sure, that's fair. Dropping my crew, who are loaded down like packmules, into a story encounter along a road and starting them both off with 0 AP until I spend a turn throwing everything in their inventories on the ground? Sweet, thanks. Enemies who score critical hits like crazy, making my guys blind, crippled, drop their weapons, and stun them? Yes, please. Starting me off next to a truck full of dynamite, which means that even if the enemies do miss, there's a good chance my entire team will blow up anyway when they hit the truck? Okay.

Christ. I want to like this game, but it's kicking me over and over. Tell me I'm not alone here.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You're not alone. There's a reason the game is bashed: It's not really a good game.

    It has some similarities to Silent Storm, but is, in fact, not like it much at all. Really, the game can easily break later on as well because much of the campaign is dynamic and the dynamic campaign wasn't actually done very well. Very badly, actually.

    The game wasn't actually even made by the same developers. Hammer & Sickle started out as a fan-made mod, but the Silent Storm devs saw promise in the mod and decided to help them out some and get their game published.

    Too bad it sucks and no one should play it.

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  • Synthetic OrangeSynthetic Orange Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Wasnt the sequel Silent Storm Sentinels anyway?

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Wasnt the sequel Silent Storm Sentinels anyway?

    It was an expansion pack. It was kind of a sequel, though, taking place directly after the first game and all that.

    It also isn't very good. Not Hammer & Sickle bad, but still not good.

    In some ways they tried to make it a bit more like Jagged Alliance in that you buy and sell weaponry and ammo and squad mates cost money to hire. Then they made the game ridiculously hard.

    Those two things didn't really work out all that well.

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  • VeritasVRVeritasVR Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Just stick to Silent Storm and fix it's problems using the mods out there. It's got an ever-changing storyline anyways, (plus Axis campaign!) Unfortunately, Sentinels are Hammer & Sickle are beyond redemption. That's what you get when you never play-test your goddamn game.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Hammer & Sickle is awful.

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    Silent Storm = 8
    Sentinels = 8.5
    Hammer and sickle = 5

  • ZxerolZxerol for the smaller pieces, my shovel wouldn't do so i took off my boot and used my shoeRegistered User regular
    There was also a Night Watch game using the Silent Storm engine, which I never played because it seemed like some shovelware shit.

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