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Where's all the Survival Horror?

MentisMentis Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Games and Technology
I'd been out of the console scene for a while, and recently picked up a ps2 for Guitar Hero. Survival horror is my favorite genre, but I'm noticing a distinct lack of it at all the retailers I've been to. What gives?

Can someone fill me in on the best of the best of the survival horror genre? It looks like I'll be hitting up ebay for most of it...

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    edit: and it's effervescence, not effervescentness :P

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Silent Hill 2, 3, 4
    Fatal Frame 1, 2, 3
    Siren
    Clock Tower 3
    Ku-On
    Haunting Ground

    These are of varying degrees in quality. I would suggest you get SH2 & 3 and the Fatal Frames. Siren is good but challenging.

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  • subediisubedii Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

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  • thunderclumpthunderclump Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

    Which happens once in a 15 hour playthrough.

    RE4 is scarcely a horror game.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

    Which happens once in a 15 hour playthrough.

    RE4 is scarcely a horror game.

    I dunno, the Regenerators, the Chainsaw guys, the village people calling at you, and (who can forget) the sewer scene. I hate the Novistadors.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Gyral wrote: »
    Silent Hill 2, 3, 4
    Fatal Frame 1, 2, 3
    Siren
    Clock Tower 3
    Ku-On
    Haunting Ground

    These are of varying degrees in quality. I would suggest you get SH2 & 3 and the Fatal Frames. Siren is good but challenging.

    I really, really thought Clock Tower 3 was better than others make it out to be. And you're right, Siren is hard as anything. I spent about 30 minutes on the first one :( I couldn't figure out what to do.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    While it's not actually a survival horror, Indigo Prophecy makes an interesting thriller-esque game.

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  • Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    urahonky wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

    Which happens once in a 15 hour playthrough.

    RE4 is scarcely a horror game.

    I dunno, the Regenerators, the Chainsaw guys, the village people calling at you, and (who can forget) the sewer scene. I hate the Novistadors.

    I don't think I've screamed "GODFUCKINGDAMMIT" that many times before.

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  • thunderclumpthunderclump Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    urahonky wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

    Which happens once in a 15 hour playthrough.

    RE4 is scarcely a horror game.

    I dunno, the Regenerators, the Chainsaw guys, the village people calling at you, and (who can forget) the sewer scene. I hate the Novistadors.

    Those are all intense moments, but the difference between RE4 and 'classic' survival horror gameplay is pretty clear.

    The OP should play RE4 because it's a fucking masterpiece and everyone should. However, I don't think it would give him his Survival Horror fix.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    Wait until SH5. Where the protagonist suplexes his imaginary personal demons.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    urahonky wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

    Which happens once in a 15 hour playthrough.

    RE4 is scarcely a horror game.

    I dunno, the Regenerators, the Chainsaw guys, the village people calling at you, and (who can forget) the sewer scene. I hate the Novistadors.

    Those are all intense moments, but the difference between RE4 and 'classic' survival horror gameplay is pretty clear.

    The OP should play RE4 because it's a fucking masterpiece and everyone should. However, I don't think it would give him his Survival Horror fix.

    Yeah. You're right.

    I miss the oldschool RE games. I miss the zombies!

    Oh and add Dead Rising to that list. That's pretty survival horror-ish.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    urahonky wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

    Which happens once in a 15 hour playthrough.

    RE4 is scarcely a horror game.

    I dunno, the Regenerators, the Chainsaw guys, the village people calling at you, and (who can forget) the sewer scene. I hate the Novistadors.

    Those are all intense moments, but the difference between RE4 and 'classic' survival horror gameplay is pretty clear.

    The OP should play RE4 because it's a fucking masterpiece and everyone should. However, I don't think it would give him his Survival Horror fix.

    Yeah. You're right.

    I miss the oldschool RE games. I miss the zombies!

    Oh and add Dead Rising to that list. That's pretty survival horror-ish.

    Its survival but I wouldn't call it horror. I never felt scared playing it, more pissed at those cheap ass convicts.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    urahonky wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    subedii wrote: »
    ben0207 wrote: »
    The best of the best is Silent Hill 2, but if you count it as SurvHor then RE4 is technically a better game to play (though SH2s story is loads better)

    Probably is I wouldn't really call RE4 survival horror, more survival action. While it's an awesome action game, it's just not really scary.

    Fatal Frame series?

    Uh.... I pretty much shit myself the first time I fought a Regenerator...

    Which happens once in a 15 hour playthrough.

    RE4 is scarcely a horror game.

    I dunno, the Regenerators, the Chainsaw guys, the village people calling at you, and (who can forget) the sewer scene. I hate the Novistadors.

    Those are all intense moments, but the difference between RE4 and 'classic' survival horror gameplay is pretty clear.

    The OP should play RE4 because it's a fucking masterpiece and everyone should. However, I don't think it would give him his Survival Horror fix.

    Yeah. You're right.

    I miss the oldschool RE games. I miss the zombies!

    Oh and add Dead Rising to that list. That's pretty survival horror-ish.

    Its survival but I wouldn't call it horror. I never felt scared playing it, more pissed at those cheap ass convicts.

    I was a little scared at the very beginning, just seeing all those zombies.

    But now at lvl 50, I bust in there and think of them as a nuisance.

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  • chaossoldierchaossoldier Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'd count RE4 towards the Survival Horror list simply due to the camera. It makes the gameplay better than its predecessors, but it also adds a sense of claustrophobia, especially when wandering through the dark corridors.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'd count RE4 towards the Survival Horror list simply due to the camera. It makes the gameplay better than its predecessors, but it also adds a sense of claustrophobia, especially when wandering through the dark corridors.

    Yeah, I don't kow what the problem is here.
    It is a scary game, no matter how you slice it. Sure, it's not ALL scary, but not all of other Surv/Hor games are (Except Silent Hill).
    I cannot tell you how many times I ran screaming like a girly bitch from hordes of Las Plagas infested spainards, even if they curse at me in Spanish (which was funny rather than intimidating).

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  • ICRICR Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Condemned.
    OH GOD THE MANNEQUINS.

    Also:

    System Shock 2.
    "Hello sir, how may I assi-BOOM!"

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Dead rising is pretty survival horror, the damn clown, and store manager were freaky as hell, and the endless zombie horde is pretty freaky when you are wounded and low on ammo, weapons.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Another good freaky game is Sanitarium for the PC. It's not survival, but it's horror.

    EDIT: I know you got a PS2, but if you computer is strong enough to chat here, you can play Sanitarium.

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  • KlykaKlyka DO you have any SPARE BATTERIES?Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Isn't there a new Alone in the Dark game coming out for 360 that looked pretty good?

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  • CervetusCervetus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I really don't think RE4 is scary. The freakiest part for me was the video where the Bella Sisters pop out. There's something about that one chick's eye that's just freaky. But really, not a scary game.

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  • Red LegRed Leg Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I dunno why everyone hates this game but one survival horror FPS I loved was The Suffering. I thought it had some genuinely scary moments and a good back story for the prison.

    I absolutely love Dead Rising but I've shelved it for quite a while because of the stupid fucking convicts. I don't know what it is. I'm normally a pretty skilled gamer, but these guys annihilate me nearly everytime. If I kill them, I'm out a ton of ammo, like 2 OJ's, and I'm still barely alive. One of the cheapest, worst moments in gaming in my opinion. And guess what? You killed em? They'll be back tomorrow...

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I got freaked out way more the second time playing RE4. I knew specific parts were coming up and suddenly some kind of ominous music would set in and I'd be ready to crap myself.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Red Leg wrote: »

    I absolutely love Dead Rising but I've shelved it for quite a while because of the stupid fucking convicts. I don't know what it is. I'm normally a pretty skilled gamer, but these guys annihilate me nearly everytime. If I kill them, I'm out a ton of ammo, like 2 OJ's, and I'm still barely alive. One of the cheapest, worst moments in gaming in my opinion. And guess what? You killed em? They'll be back tomorrow...

    You guys are girls, the convicts were easy. Stand in front of a wall, wait for them to drive at you. Run out of the way. Pull out one pistol, kill the gunner, pull the machine gun off the back and shoot the other two.

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  • MasoniteMasonite Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Call of Cthulu: DC? I haven't played it myself, but I've seen
    the shoggoth chase through the refinery.
    Pretty intense stuff. I've heard you don't get a weapon until halfway into the game.

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  • Vampire_GoldfishVampire_Goldfish Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Masonite wrote: »
    Call of Cthulu: DC? I haven't played it myself, but I've seen
    the shoggoth chase through the refinery.
    Pretty intense stuff. I've heard you don't get a weapon until halfway into the game.

    Get this game!

    The BEST horror game I have played. Its ups there with SH2.

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  • DangerousDangerous Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It's more straight up horror, but Clive Barker's Undying is a very scary game. I've found myself wanting another good survival horror lately. With RE going more toward action and the last silent hill really lackluster it doesn't look like there is much on the horizon :( I hope Condemned 2 turns out to be awesome.

    Has anyone else played Cold Fear? It sounded like a great concept. RE4 on a boat! Awesome. It turned out to be a really tedious, boring and stupid survival horror that only ripped off RE4's aiming. Such wasted potential.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Dangerous wrote: »
    It's more straight up horror, but Clive Barker's Undying is a very scary game. I've found myself wanting another good survival horror lately. With RE going more toward action and the last silent hill really lackluster it doesn't look like there is much on the horizon :( I hope Condemned 2 turns out to be awesome.

    Has anyone else played Cold Fear? It sounded like a great concept. RE4 on a boat! Awesome. It turned out to be a really tedious, boring and stupid survival horror that only ripped off RE4's aiming. Such wasted potential.

    I played a bit of Cold Fear, but I don't remember why I stopped playing. I guess it didn't grip me.

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  • ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Another one in for "Play RE4 or DIE!!"

    It really is more of a survival action, but the only thing I can think of is how more piss-scary Silent Hill will be with an over-the-shoulder camera like RE4.
    Oh god, I'll be shitting myself all week just from a Silent Hill with RE4 camera.

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  • IShallRiseAgainIShallRiseAgain Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Masonite wrote: »
    Call of Cthulu: DC? I haven't played it myself, but I've seen
    the shoggoth chase through the refinery.
    Pretty intense stuff. I've heard you don't get a weapon until halfway into the game.
    Yes, this game is awesome. There is a part that the protagonist is incredibly stupid though.
    He has visions of the inn-keeper of the hotel he is staying at killing people, He discovers the inn-keeper has a bunch of dead bodies in his office, and he finds a diary describing how the inn-keeper slowly tortures people to death, but he STILL stays at the hotel.

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  • GrimCalaveraGrimCalavera Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Call of Cthulhu is fun, but pretty damn hard if you're not particularly good at stealth games, as that's what 70% of the gameplay seemed to boil down to when I played it.

    And I actually bought and beat Cold Fear on the Xbox. It's pretty much a (very) poor man's RE4, but it had it's moments. The combat wasn't flawed, the graphics were nice (for an xbox-gen game) and I don't remember ever becoming frustrated with the game (other than the few times I fell off the ship). Pretty short game though, iirc. That's more of a good thing really though, and it probably only costs a few bucks for a used copy these days.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Call of Cthulhu is fun, but pretty damn hard if you're not particularly good at stealth games, as that's what 70% of the gameplay seemed to boil down to when I played it.

    And I actually bought and beat Cold Fear on the Xbox. It's pretty much a (very) poor man's RE4, but it had it's moments. The combat wasn't flawed, the graphics were nice (for an xbox-gen game) and I don't remember ever becoming frustrated with the game (other than the few times I fell off the ship). Pretty short game though, iirc. That's more of a good thing really though, and it probably only costs a few bucks for a used copy these days.

    Yeah, I got it for 10$, minus my 10% employee discount. Pretty sweet deal considering the game's quality.

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  • RichardTauberRichardTauber Kvlt Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Hellnight for the PS1 is a great survival horror game. The thing that NEEEEEDS

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  • HKPacman420HKPacman420 Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    REmake.

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  • gunwarriorgunwarrior Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Masonite wrote: »
    Call of Cthulu: DC? I haven't played it myself, but I've seen
    the shoggoth chase through the refinery.
    Pretty intense stuff. I've heard you don't get a weapon until halfway into the game.

    Are there any other scary games that make you run away like that?
    Ive never played that game, but I love scary games that make you run away. Like RE:4, away from the chainsaw guy.


    Also, F.E.A.R. The scariest fucking game I have ever played. Also had lots of ass-kickery, literaly. I'd recomend that heavily.

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  • AgentflitAgentflit Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Did Eternal Darkness qualify as 'survival horror'? Haven't played it but it looks the type.

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  • StigmaStigma Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Definitely.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Gyral wrote: »
    Silent Hill 2, 3, 4
    Fatal Frame 1, 2, 3
    Siren
    Clock Tower 3
    Ku-On
    Haunting Ground

    These are of varying degrees in quality. I would suggest you get SH2 & 3 and the Fatal Frames. Siren is good but challenging.

    This man's pretty much covered it, but throw in Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth and the overlooked Clive Barker's Undying.
    gunwarrior wrote: »

    Are there any other scary games that make you run away like that?
    Ive never played that game, but I love scary games that make you run away. Like RE:4, away from the chainsaw guy.

    Running away is the entire basis of Clock Tower 3 and Haunting Ground.

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  • Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Why is no one mentioning Silent Hill 1? That game was awesome. I played it after I played SH2 and it completely held up with it's story and atmosphere. The graphics might not be all that fancy but in game like this you really don't mind at all.

    Plus you need to play 1 before you play 3 in order to understand the story completely. SH2 is a stand alone game and can be enjoyed with out knowing anything about the first.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Well, since everyone else is throwing out non-PS2 games, here are more than a few other that are worth looking (some have been mentioned):

    Clock Tower (PS) - Good and scary
    Echo Night (PS), Echo Night Beyond (PS2) - Both are meh but have some scary moments
    Resident Evils (PS, GC, etc.)
    Silent Hill 1 (PS) - One of the best in the genre and really needs a remake because the graphics are a little dated
    Suffering 1 & 2
    Call of Cthulhu (Xbox) - Scary, intense and hard
    Cold Fear - Good action
    The Thing - Good action
    Obscure - Meh but should be cheap
    Curse - Meh but should be cheap
    Eternal Darkness (GC) - Not some much scary as it is great for the heavy Lovecraftian themes

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